Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-02-02 Thread steveinaz
- If you think tube rolling is something you do on a hill with large diameter sewer pipeyou might be an audio redneck. -- steveinaz - transport: squeezebox touch/channel island audio ps - dac: benchmark dac/pre - linestage: placette passive - power amplifier: parasound hca-1500a -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-02-02 Thread ralphpnj
If your bedroom system is a Bose Wave - you are one hell of an audiophile redneck. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-02-01 Thread darrenyeats
ralphpnj;687653 Wrote: mcr you are by far the best troll on the entire internet. I'm just glad you choose this forum to do your trolling on. You made my day! You know what, I think he has a secret soft spot for us too. Certainly I do. I find more politeness, knowledge and thoughtfulness here

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-02-01 Thread darrenyeats
maggior;687656 Wrote: - If your new DAC sits on top of your old broken DAC, you may be a redneck. (attributed to Jeff Foxworthy's similar comment regarding a new TV sitting on top of a broken console TV). magiccarpetride;687703 Wrote: - If your new Shakti Stone sits on top of your old

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-31 Thread ralphpnj
magiccarpetride;687633 Wrote: My bad. To correct the error of my ways, I will here indicate the proper attribution for all the points I've reposted: mcr you are by far the best troll on the entire internet. I'm just glad you choose this forum to do your trolling on. You made my day!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-31 Thread maggior
- If your new DAC sits on top of your old broken DAC, you may be a redneck. (attributed to Jeff Foxworthy's similar comment regarding a new TV sitting on top of a broken console TV). -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-31 Thread JohnSwenson
maggior;687656 Wrote: - If your new DAC sits on top of your old broken DAC, you may be a redneck. (attributed to Jeff Foxworthy's similar comment regarding a new TV sitting on top of a broken console TV). When I was young (a long time ago) everybody had large black and white console TVs,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-31 Thread magiccarpetride
maggior;687656 Wrote: - If your new DAC sits on top of your old broken DAC, you may be a redneck. - If your new Shakti Stone sits on top of your old broken Shakti Stone, you may be a redneck. -- magiccarpetride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-28 Thread Phil Leigh
andy_c;686968 Wrote: By the way, the OP claims his '*professional background is in scientific research*' (http://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=generaln=592550;). LOL! He's also posted the same thread at '*Audio Asylum*'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-27 Thread probedb
Phil Leigh;686486 Wrote: My timer is up (only 30 mins) Yes jitter exists - and it seems according to MOST research and certainly my experience FWIW you need a hell of a lot of it in order to hear it! But Phil, audiophiles can hear everything, they hear bats communicating at night, they can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-27 Thread ralphpnj
probedb;686617 Wrote: But Phil, audiophiles can hear everything, they hear bats communicating at night, they can hear the RF interference caused by a super nova in another galaxy, they can hear the movement of tectonic plates in the earths crust, they can hear.oh what it must be like to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-27 Thread pski
probedb;686617 Wrote: But Phil, audiophiles can hear everything, they hear bats communicating at night, they can hear the RF interference caused by a super nova in another galaxy, they can hear the movement of tectonic plates in the earths crust, they can hear.oh what it must be like to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-27 Thread magiccarpetride
pski;686668 Wrote: Not to mention the other obvious benefits they possess: The ability to remember tube part numbers up to ten characters and their associated sound as well as well as their damnable ability to make patterned white bread toast on their amplifiers without have to miss a single

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-27 Thread steveinaz
- If you've ever setup a graphic equalizer to make a cool design, with no regard to sound---you might be an audio redneck. - If your subwoofer doubles as your coffee tableyou might be an audio redneck. - If the tops of your Cerwin Vegas have ever been covered in saran wrap, in preparartion

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-27 Thread magiccarpetride
steveinaz;686771 Wrote: - If you've ever setup a graphic equalizer to make a cool design, with no regard to sound---you might be an audio redneck. - If your subwoofer doubles as your coffee tableyou might be an audio redneck. - If the tops of your Cerwin Vegas have ever been covered

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread soundcheck
Phil Leigh;686269 Wrote: Whatever it is you are hearing, it is neither measurable nor understandable using conventional science. Dear Phil. Bold statement. Did you become the speaker of the conventional science community!?!? ;) My view: I'm sure that every difference you can hear can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread darrenyeats
Soundcheck, listen blind and then I'll listen to you. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB Touch darrenyeats's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread Phil Leigh
soundcheck;686419 Wrote: Dear Phil. Bold statement. Did you become the speaker of the conventional science community!?!? ;) My view: I'm sure that every difference you can hear can be measured. ... I agree with pretty much everything you say here, Klaus. When you say

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread soundcheck
Phil Leigh;686421 Wrote: I agree with pretty much everything you say here, Klaus. When you say I'm sure that every difference you can hear can be measured. I agree... so if it can't be measured... maybe that's because it isn't really there to be heard? You have to allow for that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread Soulkeeper
soundcheck;686432 Wrote: If YOU can't hear a difference, it doesn't mean it's not there. Has anybody disputed this? I think not. But have a look at this slightly modified statement (I moved some NOT gates around): kcehcdnuos Wrote: If YOU can hear a difference, it doesn't mean it's there.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread Phil Leigh
soundcheck;686432 Wrote: Look Phil. I think you're kind of smart guy. But you seem to have a problem to get the message out of my posting. I'm not refering to my work btw. I couldn't care less. Above post is kept generic. Though it pretty much shows the reason why I wouldn't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread ralphpnj
Reading through this thread and several other threads here in the Audiophiles section I've noticed similar pattern running through these threads. On one side there are the people who claim to hear differences in the sound of their system as a result of all kinds of tweaks. These differences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread Phil Leigh
I have read the links that Klaus posted earlier. They are all about the problems faced by equipment designers trying to establish exactly which measurable parameters really affect the reproduction quality - and how to measure them and which measurement values are better or worse. This is all fine

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread Soulkeeper
ralphpnj;686442 Wrote: On one side there are the people who claim to hear differences in the sound of their system as a result of all kinds of tweaks. These differences range from slight improvements to oh my god major improvements. On the other side are the people who claim that these

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread pski
Worthy tweaks: 1. Read and follow the speaker maker's instructions on placement. Very few decent speakers are designed to sound correct jammed into corners or close to a back or side wall. If the speakers don't have instructions, get better speakers. If you are forced to place speakers based-on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread adamdea
Soulkeeper;686458 Wrote: In many circumstances well and good, but when one of those sides is patently wrong (e.g. fiddling with my LMS box lifts a veil from the blacker blacks, it's night and day, and it's definitely not in my head, because as we all know TCP/IP is not bit perfect, and it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread ralphpnj
It seems that I am somewhat misunderstood or, more correctly, quoted out of context. So I'll try to rephrase and see if that helps. My statement I would like to land somewhere in the middle of these two belief systems was followed by Namely that these tweaks might make a difference but, at best,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-26 Thread Phil Leigh
ralphpnj;686482 Wrote: It seems that I am somewhat misunderstood or, more correctly, quoted out of context. So I'll try to rephrase and see if that helps. My statement I would like to land somewhere in the middle of these two belief systems was followed by Namely that these tweaks might

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Perhaps a basic book on how computers work would also be helpful? At least something to help get through the fact nothing ... No amount of tinkering... You can do to the operating system and the hardware it is running on can ever change the data content of the IP packets being sent from an LMS

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SBGK
Phil Leigh;686255 Wrote: Perhaps a basic book on how computers work would also be helpful? At least something to help get through the fact nothing ... No amount of tinkering... You can do to the operating system and the hardware it is running on can ever change the data content of the IP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SBGK
I don't know what a audiophile redneck is, but I appreciate being in the company of so many world experts in audiophile digital theory that have decided, like me, to splash out on the only bit perfect digital stramer in the universe and only £200, bargain. -- SBGK

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Phil Leigh
SBGK;686263 Wrote: what is your theory of why people hear differences when running Fidelizer ? Is it just me and Soundcheck and the Fidelizer developer that can hear an improvement ? The other two haven't posted here directly about this IIRC. As to why YOU hear things sounding differently...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Phil Leigh
SBGK;686264 Wrote: I don't know what a audiophile redneck is, but I appreciate being in the company of so many world experts in audiophile digital theory that have decided, like me, to splash out on the only bit perfect digital stramer in the universe and only £200, bargain. It's not the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SBGK
Phil Leigh;686269 Wrote: The other two haven't posted here directly about this IIRC. As to why YOU hear things sounding differently... I have no idea. Whatever it is you are hearing, it is neither measurable nor understandable using conventional science. Phil, If you won't try it then

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Phil Leigh
SBGK;686292 Wrote: Phil, If you won't try it then would you accept an invitation to come to hear it at my house next time you're in Gloucestershire. There is most definately an improvement in the sound with Fidelizer and the Windows 7 tweaks, in my system at least. Hey - I never said I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Jeff Flowerday
SBGK;686292 Wrote: Phil, If you won't try it then would you accept an invitation to come to hear it at my house next time you're in Gloucestershire. There is most definately an improvement in the sound with Fidelizer and the Windows 7 tweaks, in my head at least. I had to fix your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Mnyb
Jeff Flowerday;686305 Wrote: I had to fix your statement for you... PS) The Fidelizer developer most likely doesn't run LMS and squeezeboxen. So it's just you and soundcheck on this one. There is probably some effect using Fidelizer if you actually listen to audio with your computer . I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread magiccarpetride
Archimago;686240 Wrote: LOL, I don't know whether you're trying to be funny or offensive. I like the following though: So what does this make you? I see you've started a few threads here knowing full well the tendency towards objectivism with many of the posters here. Tough crowd.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Phil Leigh;686301 Wrote: Hey - I never said I wouldn't try it... later... OK so now I've tried it... At the audiophile setting... Couldn't hear any difference to be honest. Only did a quick a/b... I suppose I could break out ADM and test it, but that will have to wait. -- Phil Leigh You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SBGK
magiccarpetride;686336 Wrote: Tough crowd. One wonders -- due to what peculiar set of circumstances did we end up with such humourless group of people on this forum? Why is everyone so somber, solemn, and hell bent on impersonating a school principal here? So no one wants to play the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SBGK
Phil Leigh;686339 Wrote: OK so now I've tried it... At the audiophile setting... Couldn't hear any difference to be honest. Only did a quick a/b... I suppose I could break out ADM and test it, but that will have to wait. “Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice Phil, my system is so highly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread Phil Leigh
SBGK;686367 Wrote: “Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice Phil, my system is so highly resolving that I can tell if Squeezeserver.exe is on priority idle or real time, same if it is on dedicated cores or shared cores. Maybe my brain reacts adversely to hearing music which does not sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread darrell
SBGK;686367 Wrote: “Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice Phil, my system is so highly resolving that I can tell if Squeezeserver.exe is on priority idle or real time, same if it is on dedicated cores or shared cores. Maybe my brain reacts adversely to hearing music which does not sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SBGK
Phil Leigh;686369 Wrote: What exactly is this system of yours? - sounds interesting. As an aside, how do you know what correct sounds like?... Were you there when it was recorded? Well, I know what I like, that's all that matters to me. Just tried the Ingus DRC (never heard of it before

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread darrell
SBGK;686389 Wrote: Well, I know what I like, that's all that matters to me. Just tried the Ingus DRC (never heard of it before seeing your signature), pretty poor on my system, massive drop in resolution. system is laptop with optimised Win 7, linear ps, ethernet, SBT + fidelity level

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread TheOctavist
SBGK;686367 Wrote: “Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice Phil, my system is so highly resolving that I can tell if Squeezeserver.exe is on priority idle or real time, same if it is on dedicated cores or shared cores. Maybe my brain reacts adversely to hearing music which does not sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-25 Thread SuperQ
SBGK;686389 Wrote: Just tried the Ingus DRC (never heard of it before seeing your signature), pretty poor on my system, massive drop in resolution. You mean Inguz? What microphone did you use? -- SuperQ SuperQ's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-24 Thread magiccarpetride
A definition of a being a redneck is possessing glorious absence of sophistication. Aesthetic concerns seem to be topping the list of things that remain inscrutable for the audiophile rednecks. They only seem capable of listening to music if they happen to be holding an SPL meter in their hands,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-24 Thread vett93
Calm down, dude. You are begging for more insults. :-) -- vett93 Main system: Source: Transporter, modded by ModWright: http://www.modwright.com/modifications/transporter-truth-mods.php Preamp: Dude from Tube Research Labs: http://www.tuberesearchlabs.com/products/dude.html Amp: NP100

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-24 Thread TheOctavist
If there is something better(lower distortion, flatter freq response, good off axis response) then it WILL show in the measurements. the problem is.. nobody knows how to listen, or knows even the basics of sound reproduction, much less DIGITAL AUDIO. MCR. Read.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rednecks

2012-01-24 Thread Archimago
LOL, I don't know whether you're trying to be funny or offensive. I like the following though: magiccarpetride;686176 Wrote: A definition of a being a redneck is possessing glorious absence of sophistication. BLAH BLAH BLAH - you frequent audiophile forums looking for people to attack,