maxrob200;372865 Wrote:
Now to see if some company comes out with an audiophile grade switch
that sells for a zillion dollars and delivers heavenly sound because of
the unobtanium used in it.
On a more serious note, it is perhaps worthwhile to take a closer look
at different types and
seanadams;366757 Wrote:
Would a static IP make it sound better?
Of course it will, also make sure you're using an audiophile DHCP
server.
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seanadams;366757 Wrote:
Would a static IP make it sound better?
Maybe a different DNS server.
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maxrob200;372229 Wrote:
Whatever was causing the sound quality drop seems to have been solved by
the replacement of the switch. I have swapped the switches around to
ensure that the differences I've heard are audible and I have to
conclude that the switch is affecting the sound - no idea why
Now to see if some company comes out with an audiophile grade switch
that sells for a zillion dollars and delivers heavenly sound because of
the unobtanium used in it.
On a more serious note, it is perhaps worthwhile to take a closer look
at different types and quality of switches on the market.
maxrob200;371844 Wrote:
It is possible that the original switch was introducing noise or
artefacts into the data stream. Might even be the wall-wart switch mode
power supply because the one supplied with the Linksys is certainly more
substantial in build.
Thanks for all the suggestions from
Whatever was causing the sound quality drop seems to have been solved by
the replacement of the switch. I have swapped the switches around to
ensure that the differences I've heard are audible and I have to
conclude that the switch is affecting the sound - no idea why
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Ok...this is what I have found with a couple of changes
1. Changed crossover to straight thru cable on router. No difference in
sound quality. I need crossover when connecting direct from NAS to SB
anyway, so not musch choice if I choose to go direct
2. Changed to Linksys Etherfast router. Very
So there must be something very wrong with your original switch, if your
new router sounds significantly better.
Regarding WAV sounding better than FLAC, this has been discussed
before. The only explanation that is plausible is that when the SB3
natively decodes the FLAC, the act itself causes
It is possible that the original switch was introducing noise or
artefacts into the data stream. Might even be the wall-wart switch mode
power supply because the one supplied with the Linksys is certainly more
substantial in build.
Thanks for all the suggestions from list members
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Just got hold of a Linksys Etherfast wired-only router to compare
against my other switch.
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Malor;369088 Wrote:
I don't know about the other claims, but I can absolutely
guaran-damn-tee you that there will be no subtle differences in sound
quality from your network connection. It's packetized data with error
correction. Either it delivers correct bits fast enough or it doesn't.
davidjames;369260 Wrote:
...
Are you saying when I performed the same test using a joke I wrote in
MS Word it wasn't funnier with the better switch?
Damn.
not only that Sir, but if you zip/unzip said word document in the
process, you joke will loose all its fun, it will become a lament
Hi Robin
I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the
quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to
inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
I have listened to both combinations and there is definitely better
audio playback when connected
Hi NIck,
Done the listening test by playing with switch connected and then
pulling the power from it and allowing buffered music to play.
All playback equipment has been playing for at least 2 hours before
test to ensure adequate warm-up time.
With power OFF to the switch there was a slight
maxrob200;368381 Wrote:
Hi NIck,
Done the listening test by playing with switch connected and then
pulling the power from it and allowing buffered music to play.
All playback equipment has been playing for at least 2 hours before
test to ensure adequate warm-up time.
With power OFF to
Sorry I though the post was reasonably clear
No it sounds better with the switch OFF, the only con was a slight drop
in level but less sibilance in voices, better bass, depth and soundstage
but a liitle loss in perceived dynamics, which could be due to less
brighness(sibilance)
Swithched ON, it
maxrob200;368410 Wrote:
Sorry I though the post was reasonably clear
No it sounds better with the switch OFF, the only con was a slight drop
in level but less sibilance in voices, better bass, depth and soundstage
but a liitle loss in perceived dynamics, which could be due to less
All cables are unshielded cat 5. The SB3 is powered by a Regulated
linear power supply set to 5 volts. All other units run off their own
power packs.
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Hi maxrob200!
Sounds strange with direct access vs Router, But who knows?
I hear a difference between Slimserver Firmwares,Router wireless
channels, Flac VS WAVE..
This is Pretty weird to.. But i Believe All this has to do with EMI
Anyway maybe this thread interests you?
If the switch is causing noise on your power lines, you could try
direct-connect to the NAS, but leave the switch plugged in where you
normally keep it. If you still think the direct-connect sounds better,
then you can probably rule out the hypothesis that the switch is
introducing noise on the
jeffmeh;367638 Wrote:
If the switch is causing noise on your power lines, you could try
direct-connect to the NAS
Hi Jeffmeh,
That's what I've been doing, direct connection, leaving the switch
connected to network and IMHO direct sounds better each and every time,
hence my posts regarding
I agree there is plenty we don't understand which is why I leave some
room for doubt always. And in general, I agree with the scientific
method whilst noting that over time science evolves, with the odd
revolution now and then, indicating that scientists at any given time
don't have it all right!
maxrob200;366954 Wrote:
As mentioned earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief
was that all cables sounded the same
That's not a belief, it's a fact* - and that fact hasn't changed at
all, recently or otherwise.
or all that an amplifier had to do was demonstrate straight
maxrob200 wrote:
In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the
audiophiles in this forum and done the following
More advice: be careful whose advice you take, especially audiophiles'
2. Connecting the SB3 directly to the NAS rather than through a switch.
Noticeably better
Hi Robin
I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the
quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to
inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
I have listened to both combinations and there is definitely better
audio playback when connected directly
Inadequade transfer speeds are not to be expecteded at all until your
switch is broken. It has to be fast enough to fill that little RAM in
the Squeezebox.
If it can´t handle that there must be something broken!
And regarding audiophiles (i post there sometimes also) Don´t take
everything as
maxrob200;366685 Wrote:
Hi Robin
I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the
quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to
inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
This is incorrect. A (working) switch and a (working)
direct-connection
maxrob200;366685 Wrote:
I did read somewhere that the quality of the switch does effect overall
audio performance due to inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
As long as the music plays, i.e. your not getting breakups, pops,
crackles etc. and the switch works for other purposes,
maxrob200;366628 Wrote:
Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6
I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set
a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have
done it for the NAS
Would a static IP make it sound better?
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maxrob200;366628 Wrote:
Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6
I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set
a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have
done it for the NAS
Would a static IP make it sound better?
I have noticed that mids are less muddled and there is more air around
individual instruments when I use a 10.0.0.0 IP address compared to a
192.168.0.0 IP addressing scheme.
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bhaagensen;366695 Wrote:
As long as the music plays, i.e. your not getting breakups, pops,
crackles etc. and the switch works for other purposes, there is no way
the switch can affect sound-quality. I won't go into details, but this
is way different than any discussions on e.g. cables,
I want to set a static IP for the SB so that I can use it just with the
NAS, nothing to do with sound quality. At the moment, when I just use
the NAS and SB, the SB cannot locate the NAS if it has been switched
off from the mains. If I just switch cables it works fine as IP has
already been given
maxrob200 wrote:
And no, I am not imagining the sound differences between standalone and
connected to the switch.
Yes you are. You really, really, are.
Like the age old debates among audiophiles about cable differences as
well as amplifier differences despite measurements being identical,
This is about to get into a religious debate. It's obvious you don't
believe that your mind can influence what you hear, otherwise you would
wish to investigate further by doing some blind tests. Some of the
others on the forum, me included, believe that our minds can and do
influence what we
Well, personal beliefs *are* part of the listening experience, actually.
:)
I would even say that the whole listening process is part of a belief.
We always enjoy the music imagining that the artist and instruments are
right in front of us, when it's just a bunch of plastic, metal and wood
Themis;366925 Wrote:
Well, personal beliefs *are* part of the listening experience, actually.
:)
I would even say that the whole listening process is part of a belief.
We always enjoy the music imagining that the artist and instruments are
right in front of us, when it's just a bunch of
It's not wireless, using cable.
I am only describing what I hear and yes it is subjective so blind
tests within a group could be an interesting exercise.
It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
been relegated to the imagining things category. As mentioned
earlier,
Robin Bowes;366670 Wrote:
maxrob200 wrote:
In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the
audiophiles in this forum and done the following
More advice: be careful whose advice you take, especially
audiophiles'
2. Connecting the SB3 directly to the NAS rather than
maxrob200 wrote:
It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
been relegated to the imagining things category. As mentioned
earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all
cables sounded the same or all that an amplifier had to do was
demonstrate
Robin Bowes;366978 Wrote:
maxrob200 wrote:
It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
been relegated to the imagining things category. As mentioned
earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all
cables sounded the same or all that an
maxrob200;366954 Wrote:
It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
been relegated to the imagining things category. As mentioned
earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all
cables sounded the same or all that an amplifier had to do was
Some generic thoughts, NOT directed at anyone or anything in this
thread-
Many of the smartest people I have known have been far more aware of
what they didn't know, than of what they did know.
Many of the dumbest people I have known have been incredibly stubborn,
and too slow to realize when
things happen for many reasons in audio when people hear differences.
listening to music with a switch may sound different simply because the
power supply of said switch is horrible and introduces noise everywhere
else.
i had a friend who preferred the sound of loudspeakers that surprised
me.
tomjtx;366943 Wrote:
That sounds dangerously like tolerance and has absolutely no place on an
audiophile forum.Tolerance is also a necessary ingredient of electronics. ;)
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Hi
I am new to the forum and thanks to the info posted I have got my SB3
and QNAP NAS up and running nicely.
In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the
audiophiles in this forum and done the following
1. Grounded the co-ax digital out with a RCA plug terminated with 75
ohm
don't use shielded twisted pair... ethernet is designed for unshielded,
and under 99% of circumstances you are more likely to increase EMI by
using shielded.
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Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6
I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set
a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have
done it for the NAS
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