amcluesent;216839 Wrote:
96/24 is confusing! As the GBP:USD rate is so good, I d/l Symphonie
Fantastique as a FLAC from HighDefTapeTransfers.com (Meta tags were
non-existant BTW).
Thank you for the tip to this place! I've never seen the point of
paying to d/l crappy compressed music
DCtoDaylight;216936 Wrote:
The attraction of 96K Sampling (not up sampling) over 44.1K sampling, is
that it moves the brick wall filter from 22.05 kHz to 48 kHz. This can
have audible benefits, because the 22kHz filter usually has measurable
affects in the audible pass band. Move the
Videodrome;217008 Wrote:
I thought there is one key difference in that upsampling is done
completely in the digital domain upstream from the DAC (as is the case
with my Behringer SRC2496).
Sorry no, both upsampling and oversampling are done completely in the
digital domain. Where exactly
Pale Blue Ego;216120 Wrote:
Download one or more of these. They are 24/96 FLAC files:
http://01688cb.netsolhost.com/samplerdownload/
I tried these on my SB3 more out of curiosity than anything else. They
play fine, but I noticed my AV Receiver was receiving PCM 44.1Khz from
the SB3. My AV
stormy;216774 Wrote:
I tried these on my SB3 more out of curiosity than anything else. They
play fine, but I noticed my AV Receiver was receiving PCM 44.1Khz from
the SB3. My AV Receiver supports 96Khz so I am assuming that the SB3
only outputs at 44.1Khz or is there something else I have
96/24 is confusing! As the GBP:USD rate is so good, I d/l Symphonie
Fantastique as a FLAC from HighDefTapeTransfers.com (Meta tags were
non-existant BTW).
It played fine on my SB3 and TP, reporting 96k on both; I assume the
SB3 was silently dropping samples/bits (It also played fine on
amcluesent;216839 Wrote:
96/24 is confusing! As the GBP:USD rate is so good, I d/l Symphonie
Fantastique as a FLAC from HighDefTapeTransfers.com (Meta tags were
non-existant BTW).
It played fine on my SB3 and TP, reporting 96k on both; I assume the
SB3 was silently dropping samples/bits
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't part of the attraction to 96K
upsampling to reduce the brick wall effect of filtering at or near 44.1
kHz? And thus by doing so, better / smoother filtering occurs? With
less aliasing, quantization noise, etc.?
Now, unlike the most of you, I'm NOT a computer
Videodrome;216862 Wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't part of the attraction to 96K
upsampling to reduce the brick wall effect of filtering at or near 44.1
kHz? And thus by doing so, better / smoother filtering occurs? With
less aliasing, quantization noise, etc.?
Now, unlike the
But was there a really big difference between the SB and tp playback?
I never A-Bed them, I was just wondering if the SB3 would work at all.
IIRC Sean has posted that 96k on the SB3 was a hack he regretted doing
at all.
SB3 and TP analogue outs sound way different IMHO, like going from 320k
MP3
Videodrome;216862 Wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't part of the attraction to 96K
upsampling to reduce the brick wall effect of filtering at or near 44.1
kHz?
The attraction of 96K Sampling (not up sampling) over 44.1K sampling,
is that it moves the brick wall filter from 22.05 kHz
It might have been the SB3 whose CPU bogged down with the higher
compression rates. Using a compression level of 0 or 1 was the
solution.
The Transporter has a faster CPU and bigger buffer, so it should be
unaffected by the higher FLAC compression levels.
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Pale Blue Ego;216529 Wrote:
The Transporter has a faster CPU and bigger buffer, so it should be
unaffected by the higher FLAC compression levels.
It does have a faster CPU, 325 Mhz (?) but it's mostly to power the
second screen. I do not believe it has a bigger buffer though, or if
it does
Thanks to all for the interest.
I think Phil is correct on my problem. My Goldwave 96/24 file may not
have a proper header. I built it by taking a 44/16 wav CD song ripped
with dbPowerAmp, and then used Goldwave to resample it to 96/24. The
new file would not play on Transporter.
I later to
dudeymon;216368 Wrote:
Thanks to all for the interest.
I think Phil is correct on my problem. My Goldwave 96/24 file may not
have a proper header. I built it by taking a 44/16 wav CD song ripped
with dbPowerAmp, and then used Goldwave to resample it to 96/24. The
new file would not
Phil Leigh;216378 Wrote:
If you really want it to sound like vinyl, I suggest you restrict the
frequency response and dynamic range, add some low level low and high
frequency noise and the odd random click plus random speed variations
- that should get you pretty close. :o)
Seriously,
dudeymon;216391 Wrote:
I'm OK with your opinion. I just think I can do upsampling better than
most of the DACs do, that's all. I'm not using linear extrapolation or
numeric transformations, but instead trying to emulate what I think a
top flight turntable/cartridge would present in a
Phil Leigh;216394 Wrote:
Also - I'm sure you would agree that there is NO way that upsampling can
add accurate information - all it can do is interpolate, which is simply
a guess and NOT real data!
You're right - there is no way of adding back accurate information.
It's always a guess. But,
dudeymon;216395 Wrote:
You're right - there is no way of adding back accurate information.
It's always a guess. But, if I can make a pretty good guess - based on
a thorough analysis of the samples I do have before and after the gap, I
can potentially provide additional information that,
dudeymon, why don't you try a 24/88.2 upconverted file on your
transporter? You might get a cleaner conversion by sticking with a
strict 2x multiple on the sample rate. Just a thought.
Also, I would use FLACs instead of WAVs, for savings of space,
bandwidth, and the ability to tag.
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Pale Blue Ego;216405 Wrote:
dudeymon, why don't you try a 24/88.2 upconverted file on your
transporter? You might get a cleaner conversion by sticking with a
strict 2x multiple on the sample rate. Just a thought.
Also, I would use FLACs instead of WAVs, for savings of space,
bandwidth,
Download one or more of these. They are 24/96 FLAC files:
http://01688cb.netsolhost.com/samplerdownload/
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Thanks - PBE - will download and see what happens.
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The FLAC file plays fine. Thanks.
But shouldn't it play an uncompressed WAV 96/24 as well. I wonder if
the lack of compression is overloading the wireless?
Have you ever played uncompressed WAV files at 96/24?
Thanks.
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dudeymon;216036 Wrote:
I moved my 96K file to a new folder got it to show up in slimserver.
But when I try to play the file, it never starts - the browser window
just resets over over trying to play it. Again, the file plays fine
in Windows.
The WAV header is corrupt (or rather,
I realise this isn't what you were asking, but are these files upsampled
(in Goldwave) from 44.1/16 CD rips?
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and
I can play 24-bit WAVs on my SB3, but I have a wired connection. Try
converting the WAVs to FLAC to save bandwidth.
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I play uncompressed 96k/24 bit files on my Transporter without problems,
using a wired ethernet. When you say they won't play on your wireless
network, can you provide a bit more information? If you display the
buffer level on the Transporter, does is stay very low? How does this
compare to
Hi All -
Just got my transporter today and starting to use.
I have a question about playing 96K/24b WAV files. I have a few
resampled files done by Goldwave that play fine using Windows media
player and are clearly 96K/24b in the file properties, but I can't get
Slimserver to recognize the
I moved my 96K file to a new folder got it to show up in slimserver.
But when I try to play the file, it never starts - the browser window
just resets over over trying to play it. Again, the file plays fine
in Windows.
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