kphinney;478506 Wrote:
Humor me and try this: Go analog from your TP to your Rotel and from
the Rotel ONLY to the 703's.
I understand that you probably want to have all of the speakers and
gear and probably use it as a home theater, but this will give you an
idea of what a simple
It's nice to know I got something right for a change. Glad to hear it
working for you. Sometimes simple is best.
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FARQ;481437 Wrote:
hmmm thought that would be the case
1 side of the room is 3 double glazed sliding glass doors, the rear of
the room already has 2 large canvas pieces on the wall, and the other
side is open plan to the end of the kitchen
so not really much that can be done
might
there is nothing I can do with the layout of the room, the position of
the speakers, or re-arranging the position of the TP in my stack,
unfortunately... that level of my house is an open plan rectangle, with
the kitchen at one end lounge/home av at the other... with where my
LCD is mounted and
cool thanks for the input, much appreciated
pretty much the same response as the guy who advised/sold/installed my
system... don't think I've ever had a sales guy advise me NOT to spend $
or buy more equipment heh.
said there would be an improvement, but probably not overly noticeable,
FARQ;481382 Wrote:
there is nothing I can do with the layout of the room, the position of
the speakers, or re-arranging the position of the TP in my stack,
unfortunately... ... so my only option is to keep the TP where it is,
on top of the rotel and under the beyonwiz...
Swiching up from
FARQ;481400 Wrote:
are there any sort of room treatments one could make, without changing
the look of my lounge room though?... it's very clean minimal with a
few bits of art around the place, which is the way I like it
Art is a very good start. You may not see benefits in room
hmmm thought that would be the case
1 side of the room is 3 double glazed sliding glass doors, the rear of
the room already has 2 large canvas pieces on the wall, and the other
side is open plan to the end of the kitchen
so not really much that can be done
might perhaps look at just upgrading
kphinney;478522 Wrote:
I was told once on this forum, maybe 3 years ago and it has held true
for me: The biggest improvement you can make is to improve your
listening room.
Yup, speakers and room always come first.
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SuperQ;480054 Wrote:
Yup, speakers and room always come first.
I agree, too. ;)
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Themis;480064 Wrote:
I agree, too. ;) (although for the room, you don't need to do much, just
reasonably fill it with everyday mess^^)
I'm partial to stacks of books and bookshelves.
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FARQ;478017 Wrote:
hmmm maybe it's not setup in the best configuration then?
a number of places I went to who sell and consult on high end gear said
the best option would be to use the bi-amp feature of the Denon for the
703s, and if I found that didn't power the drivers of the 703s
Themis;478107 Wrote:
You should use the Rotel to bi-amp the front speakers. It is a better
amp than the Denon's power section imho.
Let the Denon power the surround and center speakers.
cool thanks for the tip
though pardon one's ignorance, if I use the straps that came with the
703s (as
FARQ - You've got the gear to do a number of tests to determine your own
best path.
First, I'd have to disagree (if not take offense) at earwaxers chide
about the Rotel. IMHO. I've had an RA-1210 since the 70's and it still
produces warm clean tones. Though I don't use it, it still has a
thanks kphinney, appreciate the constructive response
I've always been a fan of rotel as well, and I quite like my RB-1080,
for the price point it suited the purpose fine
I guess I tried to go for a balance between raw power/aesthetics
musical refinement when I listen to say some acoustic,
I was told once on this forum, maybe 3 years ago and it has held true
for me: The biggest improvement you can make is to improve your
listening room.
--
kphinney
-I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.-
FARQ;477601 Wrote:
the rotel is only powering the drivers of the 703s, the denon is doing
the mid/hi
unfortunately I have limited space to work with as well, the speakers
can't be positioned any differently
Are you telling me you're bi-amping the 703's with two different amps ?
oO
If
Themis;476351 Wrote:
Well, I suppose that the Denon's preamp stage covers (and influences)
most of the differences between your DAC8 and the Transporter analog
output.
On the other hand, if you consider that the highs do appear to be
quite brittle and harsh, especially at loud volumes then,
Farq,my Transporter sits on the top shelf of my rack and always runs
cool.
i've been using a product called Black Ravioli for a number of years
now,it was developed by a naval acoustics bod.
i have each of my units supported by four of these pads and their
isolation properties are pretty good.
Themis;477642 Wrote:
Are you telling me you're bi-amping the 703's with two different amps ?
oO
If it's the case (if I understood properly) I advise you to use only
one amp. Amplifiers interact with speakers, two amplifiers interact
differently (damping factors, etc) and they can rarely
Dont put the DAC on the amp. Dont put anything on the amp.
First of all - The Rotel is second rate. Sorry - I had a Proton back in
the 80's. It was great so I thought. It's all relative. When you get
into the real stuff you are going to put your Rotel up for sale
lickety split!
My bias is get
FARQ;476244 Wrote:
I have all of the naff auto room EQ and Audyssey disabled on the Denon
When listening to music I only use either Pure Direct, or 5ch Stereo so
it powers all the speakers.
Well, I suppose that the Denon's preamp stage covers (and influences)
most of the differences
Do you listen to your setup through the PURE DIRECT mode or through the
Audyssey EQ ?
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Themis
SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus
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My TP barely gets warm, something else is generating the excess heat.
The VU meters are generated by SBS and are not available when using
digital inputs.
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SuperQ;475738 Wrote:
The front is one of the warmer parts due to the VFD display heaters.
makes sense I guess although when using the digital input from the
Beosound there's little going on on the display
SuperQ;475738 Wrote:
Back on the topic of audio quality, are you adjusting the
FARQ;475647 Wrote:
strangely enough my first reaction was, I preferred the sound through
the old crappy DAC8, something I certainly wasn't expecting though
whilst there is more bass through the DAC8, the sound is slightly on the
muddy side... whilst through the transporter my music
SuperQ;475691 Wrote:
Not burnin, your ears are just used to the previous setup. Give it
time, your ears will adjust, not the equipment.
I've always been curious as to whether 'burn in time' makes any
difference or not... half of what I've read up on people swear it does,
the other half says
The front is one of the warmer parts due to the VFD display heaters.
Back on the topic of audio quality, are you adjusting the volume on the
transporter at all? Do you notice it sounds louder or softer than the
other transports you use? A very small volume difference can mean a lot
to your
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