Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread D S Baker
Define a Free rap? Do you mean that someone who's a glider pilot was on there and mentioned it, or what? Dion Baker On 27/11/2007, Adam Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Watching 'Deal or No Deal' at the moment, and they just gave gliding a FREE rap. So I'm guessing there might be a

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Jones
A contestants mum was in the group of case holders and mentioned that she wants to learn how to fly a glider , a brief discussion happened about wanting to fly gliders for a long time (mum) ... I'd like to soar with eagles stuff... Then Andrew got the geeks up stairs to research how much

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread DMcD
HA. I'm not sure about all this Soar with Eagles nonsense when talking about sailplanes. It is false advertising and people who believe it will get a big let down when they find out just how noisy most gliders actually are. Maybe we'll get sued. And sure, while there are eagles up there, and

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Loxton
well someone is in a sour mood.. there really is no need to be so rude and negative. I have flown in very quite sailplanes, and have had the pleasure of soaring with Eagles, a very memorable experience Ben On 28/11/2007, at 10:42 PM, DMcD wrote: HA. I'm not sure about all this

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Patching
we won't - Original Message - From: Ben Jones To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising A contestants mum was in the group of case holders and mentioned

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread stuart smith
I once had an eagle bounce off the canopy, does that count? Frightened the s**t out of me Stuart - Original Message - From: Patching To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Terry Neumann
stuart smith wrote: I once had an eagle bounce off the canopy, does that count? Frightened the s**t out of me Stuart Possibly did the same for the eagle Stuart, but then you would have been the first to know about that :-) Terry

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Catherine Conway
Not sure where DMcD flies that he misses out flying with eagles, but we flew with them regularly on the ridge al Lochiel. They were used to us and we'd normally all get on pretty well. Occasionally there would be disputes during mating season. The Arrow had an altercation with an eagle

[Aus-soaring] Flying with big birds WAS: Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread swk
As per Cathy and Marks comments re Lochiel. Also often at Port Augusta. The most I remember counting was 15 Black Kites in the thermal all around me (at least fifteen that I could count) and also this was a great one from 2004: http://slash.dotat.org/womens-preworlds-2004/sk-28-07-2004.html

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Tom Wilksch
I've joined a thermal to 7000' with 5 eagles at Stonefield. Was an incredible experience. One just sat of my wingtip inside the circle as we went round, calmly looking at me. It is amazing to see how the top feathers feel the air, wish we had that kind of sensitivity. At the top I followed

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread McLean Richard
Hi DMcD Have you really never shared a thermal with a wedgie? A shame if that's the case, but please don't be so arrogant as to to accuse the rest of us of spouting 'nonsense' or 'false advertising' - I for one find it quite offensive wonder what the point of using such aggressive negative

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread D S Baker
Had a bad day perhaps? :P Just to join in here, a few weeks ago I was in a big (in area) thermal in the Diamant, doing large circles. I looked away, looked back to the inside of the circle, and I had an Eagle about halfway down my inside wing, moving from in front of the leading edge to the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Jones
Just to add a another couple of logs to the fire. I managed to thermal with a eagle in a blanik for about 45 mins from about 2000 to 6000 interesting flying until the bugger outclimbed me !, then proceeded to deploy his u/c then tuck in a wing and had a go at me. Ben West Oz -

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread DMcD
Have you really never shared a thermal with a wedgie? Yes. I have thermalled with eagles and I have ridged soared with all sorts of birds including magpies (the worst) and pelicans. And I have done this in the open, au naturel so to speak, and in a tupperware glider. There's no comparison guys!

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Matthew Gage
On 29/11/2007, at 6:01 AM, DMcD wrote: There's no comparison guys! Soaring with eagles in a sailplane is like watching it on TV compared with being out in the open. The only similarity I can come up with involves the act of sexual congress and rubber products and I am not going to sully

[Aus-soaring] Blanik Fight WAS: Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread swk
??? Of course old gliders are fun, including Blaniks. Of course there are better things (now) than Blaniks, but they are still lovely to fly and a good trainer after more than 50 years! Remember they were a mid 1950s design (contemporary with Kookaburras, Phillip Will's Dart* and similar) which

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Dave
Hi all, I had a fun hawk encounter recently. Usually I am comprhensively out climbed by the buggers, but for once I found the better core and the outclimbed him For a while, until he gave up and came and joined my core! Strangely satisfying to beat one, just once. (: It certainly is rare

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 50, Issue 70

2007-11-28 Thread Wayne Carter
Just to add a another couple of logs to the fire. I managed to thermal with a eagle in a blanik for about 45 mins from about 2000 to 6000 interesting flying until the bugger outclimbed me !, then proceeded to deploy his u/c then tuck in a wing and had a go at me. Ben West Oz -

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Mike Cleaver
At 06:01 29/11/2007, you wrote: Yes. I have thermalled with eagles and I have ridged soared with all sorts of birds including magpies (the worst) and pelicans. And I have done this in the open, au naturel so to speak, and in a tupperware glider. You accuse me of being sour. Not at all! I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 50, Issue 70

2007-11-28 Thread Ashley Boyle
Sorry Wayne I disagree. Last Saturday (whilst i was instructing mind you) we had an awesome day, for want of a better word. 11-12knot climbs with a 600km being done. The pilot who flew the 600 was not taking anything below 8knots and averaged 130kph around the task. He said it was an easy

[Aus-soaring] Soaring with eagles

2007-11-28 Thread Terry Neumann
It's been good to hear the various eagle stories. It begs a question as to how high they actually go in thermals. The highest I've actually seen an soaring bird was in a thermal at around 10,000 feet near Farrell Flat many years ago when I was in one of our Libelles. It wasn't a

Re: [Aus-soaring] Soaring with eagles

2007-11-28 Thread John Hoye
Terry, It's quite common to share thermals with swifts in England. They are taking their pick of the insect food being brought up to them in the thermals. If they disappear from view when you're climbing with them, then you can be sure that they have moved to a stronger thermal nearby! John

Re: [Aus-soaring] Soaring with eagles

2007-11-28 Thread Phil
The highest eagle I've seen was at cloudbase at 16,500' on one spectacular day 200km north of Gawler. I was shivering and on oxygen. The wedgetail eagle had its wings half folded in, I'm guessing to stop it from being sucked into the cloud. When I left it was still circling under the cloud. The

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 50, Issue 70

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Jones
The flight was when i was rather in experienced at themalling and only loose lift with no defined core well thats my excuse ! and im sticking to it. 8-) Ben - took you 45 minutes to climb 4000 ft? Ben, you gotta come to the east mate! Wayne

Re: [Aus-soaring] Soaring with eagles

2007-11-28 Thread Matthew Gage
On 29/11/2007, at 11:41 AM, Phil wrote: On another note. Here in SA if you see an eagle it almost certainly is in the best thermal around and nearly impossible to outclimb them. I've flown at Kingaroy in QLD the last 2 Octobers for the nationals and found that more than 1/2 the eagles I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 50, Issue 70

2007-11-28 Thread Patching
The buggers at Bacchus Marsh have been seen by me to go into cloud. No, I didn't follow. They are truly spectacular. One of our tuggies had one in the wing vortex while he was coming down at a very healthy rate. He says the eagle just stayed there until he levelled out and he was moving. Patch

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread JR
Soaring with eagles is when you are in a wooden sailplane, something with character like, I dunno maybe an Olympia or boomerang, and you do all the other stuff Tom said except the negative flap part. JR - Original Message - From: Tom Wilksch To: Discussion of issues relating to

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Have you really never shared a thermal with a wedgie? No! I always wear boxer shorts to ensure that this discomfort does not occur where I cannot correct it. Makes it easier to get to my wee birdie too when the need arises. How did I beat you on that one JR? Seriously. Would'nt it be wonderful

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Nick Gilbert
Can we fit eagles with Flarms? On Nov 29, 2007 2:20 PM, Christopher Mc Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you really never shared a thermal with a wedgie? No! I always wear boxer shorts to ensure that this discomfort does not occur where I cannot correct it. Makes it easier to get to

Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No Deal, TV Advertising

2007-11-28 Thread Dave Long Cath Lincoln
Trained eagles, perhaps? Dave L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 2:50 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Deal or No

Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week 2008

2007-11-28 Thread Geoff Vincent
Hi Rolf, Count me in for Horsham Week. I'll also be there for the VSA coaching course. Regards, Geoff V At 11:19 PM 27/11/2007 +, you wrote: Dear All,   An invitation is extended to all for the 2008 Horsham Week competition from February 2nd to 9th 2008. The comp will be flown in 4