Hi
I am told that the GFA is taking legal action against Air Services
Australia over the airspace rollback.
I am absolutely flabbergasted by this as it has been my understanding
that in the past we have been able to negotiate the issues that arose as
a result of changes. There were many of these
chat; cgc
Subject: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???
Hi
I am told that the GFA is taking legal action against Air Services Australia
over the airspace rollback.
I am absolutely flabbergasted by this as it has been my understanding that
in the past we have been able to
;, "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring
in Australia.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE:
[Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???Date:
15/09/04 15:55Hi
RobertYou may remember me from Waikerie; hoping to see you at
Waikerie thisJanuary as well, wit
lating to Soaring in
Australia.Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against
Air Services???
this is this type of smart arse response that will engender a deep
love of the gfa council. i would like to know what was happening at the gfa
level.firstly after reading the annual financial report why is
David Conway said:
>As long as it's all constructive, then I am all for the best
communication possible between the GFA and it's >members.
>In the past I have certainly been critical of the apparent distance
between the members and the GFA, and >now that I can do something about it, I
wi
At 08:54 PM 13/09/04 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I am told that the GFA is taking legal action against Air Services
>Australia over the airspace rollback.
>
>I am absolutely flabbergasted by this as it has been my understanding
>that in the past we have been able to negotiate the issues that arose as
lating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:43
PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking
legal action against Air Services???
yes, of course it was a smart arse response! :)
It was a good way of me introducing myself, letting
people know
tember 15, 2004 4:43
PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking
legal action against Air Services???
yes, of course it was a smart arse response! :)
It was a good way of me introducing myself, letting
people know we shouldn't be overly serious (or personal) and we are all
Mike Borgelt wrote:
For an interesting different view on airspace yesterday I managed to find
an interesting document on the web which I can't find again. Does Firefox
have a history list?
View -> Sidebar -> History
- mark
I tri
> Kookaburra Precision Soaring Team.
> - Original Message -
> From: David Conway
> To: 'Boonahgliding' ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
> Australia.'
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA ta
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 20:54, Robert Hart wrote:
> I am told that the GFA is taking legal action against Air Services
> Australia over the airspace rollback.
Well
I need to eat a portion of humble pie.
Having phoned and emailed Bob Hall on this issue, I heard back. Not all
the details, but I was
ive, then I am all for the best
communication
> > possible between the GFA and it's members.
> >
> > In the past I have certainly been critical of the apparent distance
between
> > the members and the GFA, and now that I can do something about it, I
will.
> >
At 08:35 PM 15/09/04 +0800, you wrote:
>
>How can our National body allow these bureaucrats to restrict soaring
flight to
>just 8500ft all the way out to 90nm from Perth? That is 40nm from my club
and
>the remoteness makes it less attractive to fly much further out than this
>distance anyway. Th
At 06:36 AM 16/09/04 +1000, you wrote:
>(Hallo Daryl from 1973-4!!)
>My impression from RAPAC(?) meetings from 7 years ago was steps would get
>steeper in time as we got better climb performance Aircraft and the Navahos
>became parachute drop planes or were put out to pasture. Why should our
>step
Mike Borgelt wrote:
You will be restricted to:-
Under Class C
8,500 between 36 and 50nm DME
FL125 between 50 and 65nm DME
FL180 between 65 and 90nm DME
The base of the Class E is at 8500 from 50 to 90nm.
You are free to fly in Class E in gliders even without a transponder
unless within 40nm of a
At 08:49 AM 16/09/04 +1000, you wrote:
>Mike Borgelt wrote:
>
>
>
>You will be restricted to:-
>
>Under Class C
>8,500 between 36 and 50nm DME
>FL125 between 50 and 65nm DME
>FL180 between 65 and 90nm DME
>
>The base of the Class E is at 8500 from 50 to 90nm.
>
>You are free to fly in Class E in gl
, September 15, 2004 4:43
PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking
legal action against Air Services???
yes, of course it was a smart arse response! :)
It was a good way of me introducing myself, letting
people know we shouldn't be overly serious (or personal) and
From: Peter Creswick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So, if you don't have one (and VERY few do), you can't fly in E outside
40nm, at any altitude / level, period.
Except that gliders are specifically exempted from carrying transponders -
in spite of the attempts by a number of contributors on this group
Mike Borgelt wrote:
The rules are that aircraft without generating systems(gliders and some
others) can fly in Class E without transponders except in Class E within
40nm of Class D towers.
And that is exactly how I have understood the rules to be also. I have
used Class E on several ocassions
bject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???
Mike Borgelt wrote:
>The rules are that aircraft without generating systems(gliders and some
>others) can fly in Class E without transponders except in Class E within
>40nm of Class D towers.
>
>
And that is exa
At 09:43 PM 16/09/04 +0930, you wrote:
>Mike Borgelt wrote:
>
>>The rules are that aircraft without generating systems(gliders and some
>>others) can fly in Class E without transponders except in Class E within
>>40nm of Class D towers.
>>
>>
>And that is exactly how I have understood the rules
Mike Borgelt wrote:
At 09:43 PM 16/09/04 +0930, you wrote:
Mike Borgelt wrote:
The rules are that aircraft without generating systems(gliders and some
others) can fly in Class E without transponders except in Class E within
40nm of Class D towers.
And that is exactly how I have und
Earlier this year my club had a visit to Airservices at Melbourne. They
showed us how their primary radar computer is set to screen out returns that
are travelling less than so many knots. Despite this, we occasionally saw
vehicles painted travelling to or from Geelong or up the Western Highway
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