It appears these have an ongoing problem with the canopy opening during
spin.
Apart from not spinning, is there an effective remedy?
Simon Holding
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Hi All,
The Australian Junior GC is looking for a trailer to transport its 'new'
IS28 around this Summer (initially from Bunyan to Narromine), until we can
get a more permanent solution sorted. Does anyone know of a trailer which
could be used for this? Possibly a Blanik trailer which is sittin
ssage-
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Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2004 8:52 AM
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] IS28
It appears these have an ongoing problem with the canopy opening during
spin.
Apart from not spinning, is there an effectiv
At 01:40 PM 22/09/04 +1000, you wrote:
>The GCV method of locking the IS28 canopy is the same as we use at Southern
>Cross Gliding Club.
>
>The attached picture should clarify things.
>
>Basically the locking pin is attached to a short wire (just in front of the
>placard on the side of the rear i
Soaring in Australia."
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> The GCV method of locking the IS28 canopy is the same as we use at
Southern
> Cross Gliding Club.
>
> The attached picture should clarify things.
>
> Ba
scussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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> The GCV method of locking the IS28 canopy is the same as we use at
Southern
> Cross Gliding Club.
>
> The attached picture s
One of our IS28's has a damaged fin
Obtaining parts from the factory is proving problematic
Is anyone aware of a u/s IS28 with an otherwise serviceable fin in the
country?
Or an IS28 suitable for spares only?
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IS28 B2. Good condition, manufactured 1976, instrumentation includes
Cambridge variometer with repeater, Icon 760 radio, Flarm Nav with
repeater display in rear panel. Total time 4,200 hrs, 30 yr survey
completed Sep 2006. Current C of A. Open tandem trailer, Easy-lift
tow-out device and
I don't know of a trailer, but I would happily volunteer to fly it
there!!
On a day like today, I should think it would be easy! Too bad I'm stuck
on the ground.
Jenny
On 19/11/10 15:04, Adam Webb wrote:
Hi All,
The Australian Junior GC is looking for a
trailer to trans
Hi Adam;
A Blanik trailer? How cruel. :-)
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Adam Webb wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> The Australian Junior GC is looking for a trailer to transport its 'new'
> IS28 around this Summer (initially from Bunyan to Narromine), until we can
> get a more permanent solution sorted. Does any
Don't scrap the Blanik's yet, they are aiming for a solution by first
quarter 2011... although that doesn't help us for this soaring season :(
Regarding the trailers, I'd say that many Blanik trailers may have their
Blanik housed on them at the moment to save space while they are
grounded (ours
Hi Kym;
We have a Blanik in our club so we are all following the story closely.
I hope a fix does arrive. However, its my guess that any fix will cost
more than the aircraft is worth and this will kill the whole thing.
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010, Kym Z wrote:
> Don't scrap the Blanik's yet, they are ai
or the Gliding Club of Victoria
Adam
>From: "Patching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Australia."
>To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
>Australia."
>Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring]
Contact Bill or David Riley at Toc. There are a number of wrecks there.
Patch
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] IS28 fin wanted
One of our IS28's has a damaged fin
Obtaining parts from the factory is proving problematic
Is a
I did see nearly a complete IS28 for parts with the GCV a while back.
Cheers
Mark> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Date:
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or the Gliding Club of Victoria&
According to rec.aviation.soaring:
"The Romanian Aeroclub would like to inform you that has requested and
obtained the EASA approval for an STC which replaces the lifetime
limitation of 35 calendar years by periodical inspection (structural health
control) on every 2 years for IS-28B2 gliders.
Ro
Hi there,
there was a thread on CQC’s final flight that had an enclosed email - that
doesn’t seem to be in the archives intact.
http://www.mail-archive.com/aus-soaring%40lists.internode.on.net/msg29008.html
is one of the only messages I can see that has it.
If anyone has the original em
Email sent
On 5/01/2015 11:04 am, brett pound wrote:
Hi there,
there was a thread on CQC’s final flight that had an enclosed email -
that doesn’t seem to be in the archives intact.
http://www.mail-archive.com/aus-soaring%40lists.internode.on.net/msg29008.html
is one of the only messages I ca
All
There ARE more than 3 ADs for IS28s. You need to be careful how you look for
them !
Some are filed under "IS-28" (rather than "IS28") - another 9 in fact,
including AD 374 "Fatigue Life Limits" which I think is the one that explains
the trade-off between aerobatic flights and lifetime, bu
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Armistead
> There ARE more than 3 ADs for IS28s. You need to be careful
> how you look for
> them !
Whoops, should have realised that myself.
> Some are filed under "IS-28" (rather than "IS28") - another 9
> in fact,
> including AD 374 "Fati
the DG505
John Parncutt
VMFG
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issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT to spin for fun)
> Our club some years ago (VMFG) sold our IS28's and bought a Puchaz. Having
> gone from instructing on
2004 7:51 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT to spin for fun)
John,
You are right, spins in an IS 28 can be unpleasant and not willingly
practised without a lot of air underneath you. I have not flown a Puchaz but
the
Harry Medlicott wrote:
Spinning accidents don't normally happen at altitude, it is the ones close
to the ground that cause the accidents. Training at altitude undertaking a
number of turns might be fun but I doubt if it saves many lives. What is
needed is plenty of practice at instantly taking the
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 21:31, Mark Newton wrote:
> I know a lot of people who have a great time spinning gliders, but
> I don't know anyone who would do it below 1,500', whether they're
> in an IS-28, a Puchacz or anything else.
Well - not *intentionally* below 1,500' and it certainly isn't great f
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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT to spin for fun)
Yes Harry I agree, accidental spinning at low
Every few years this argument crops up, "to spin or not to spin",
(train), and every few years we get the same old arguments rolled out,
on both sides.
I learned to fly in the 70's, but I haven't flown since 93, so I have
been out of the loop for a while, so a question. Spin training was a
co
Yes, most definately!
John Parncutt
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Hi all - I thought we trained people to recover from
spins because although our nice shiny new trainers are
"spin-proof" most of our aging single seater fleet
that the majority of inexperienced club pilots will
fly are not? I just spent the weekend conducting
spin-training in a puchacz ... and I di
ling, unlike a Pooch.
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incipient spin when thermalling,
unlike a Pooch.
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es relating to Soaring in Australia.'
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Polish gliders seem to require correct spin recovery rather than
allowing you to get away with just using one control. I wonder if this
has something to do with the Puchacz problem.
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> Yes, most definately!
>
>
> John Parncutt
>
> -
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> Spin proof? Our new DG1000 spins like a top!
>
> I learnt to spin off the top of the winch in the UK, in a K7. It's a very
different kett
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:12:14 +0930
Today I will break from tradition
.
Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT to spin for fun)
Can you hit the winch parachute practicing spinning off the top of the
winch? I presume you wait a while before deliberately spinning.
PeterS
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At 12:12 PM 22/09/04 +0930, you wrote:
>Today I will break from tradition and stick my beak in
>fully expecting to be shot down in flames because of my
>background as SCHLEICHER agent in Australia, NZ and
>Japan.
>
Bernard,
I think you are confusing the Puchacz with the KR03 Krosno.
The Puch i
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Today I will break from tradition and stick my beak in
fully expecting to be shot
2 September 2004 01:04 AM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
> Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT
> to spin for fun)
>
> Hi all - I thought we trained people to recover from
> spins because although our nice shiny new trainers
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Bernard, I think
From: "Jason Armistead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A similar problem exists for "LS-6" versus "LS 6" and "DG-100" versus "DG
100" and other numerically identified aircraft types.
I will have a chat with the webmaster and GFA office to see if we can get
some consistency in the naming of aircraft types.
.
and it spins
(and recovers!) beautifully. And that's with me in the front. (No
light-weight :-( !)
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT to spin for fun)
> Having height to lose last Sunday :-)) , I tried
At 02:28 AM 24/09/04 +1000, you wrote:
>Peter,
>
>What sort of trim does the Blanik have? Our K-13 has an aerodynamic trim
>tab. With it set neutral it rapidly develops into a spiral dive after about
>3/4 of a turn, but if you put in full forward trim this makes the trim-tab
>go up, giving you mo
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:03:31 +1000, Graeme Cant wrote
> >From: "Jason Armistead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >A similar problem exists for "LS-6" versus "LS 6" and "DG-100" versus "DG
> >100" and other numerically identified aircraft types.
> >
> >I will have a chat with the webmaster and GFA office t
David Long &/or Cathy Lincoln wrote:
What sort of trim does the Blanik have?
A trim tab. One on each elevator. Quite powerful and can be flown in
pitch on the trim tab alone.
While they are a dead dog to work one, I never minded flying them.
With full flap, full rear trim, both hands on the stick
Oh! You were trim back then. (Yeah, I know - yuck)
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Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:38 pm
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> re: IS28 droping in unintentionally from a thermal ..
> it definitely will, because
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I was trained on Southern Cross's IS28s. I remember the first time a spin was
demonstrated to me: I had no idea it would be so fast and so (comparitively) violent.
I recall putting my hands up onto
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Its been noticed in this thread that all Polish gliders to spin. This is, I believe
reflected
in the way Polish glider pilots are trained.
Being fully trained Polish pilot (mid 70) and having flown in Australia for more than
10
years, I though I might share my experience.
Firstly, every trai
Behalf Of Jarek Mosiejewski
Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2004 09:57 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia .
Subject:Re: RE: RE: [Aus-soaring] IS28 ADs (was Reasons NOT to spin for fun )
It's been noticed in this thread that all Polish gliders to spin. This
At 09:57 AM 23/09/04 +1000, you wrote:
>Its been noticed in this thread that all Polish gliders to spin. This is,
I believe reflected
>in the way Polish glider pilots are trained.
>Being fully trained Polish pilot (mid 70) and having flown in Australia
for more than 10
>years, I though I might
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> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia .
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Borgelt
> Thanks Jarek, now do we have anyone here who knows what is
> done in Germany
> and the US?
>
> Mike
I can't give a good answer to your question but I would like to know too.
I was under the impression (like most glider pilots in Australia)
t in full forward trim this makes the trim-tab
> go up, giving you more elevator authority with the stick back and it spins
> (and recovers!) beautifully. And that's with me in the front. (No
> light-weight :-( !)
>
> From: "Peter Stephenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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