Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Marriage

Thank you all so much! I would have never gotten her name. I looked for hints with other E's but could never come up with it. It is just not one I have ever seen! It is a mouthful! I really appreciate it! On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:33 AM Bill Seidler wrote: > Hi Rene > > I see the same as

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Marriage

Hi Rene I see the same as Linda and Pat have stated and just want to add that the groom was baptized in Achadinha and his mother's name (in the margin as Linda stated) is Barbara da Encarnação. The bride appears to be natural of Matriz de São George (Jorge) which I believe is Nordeste. Bill

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Marriage

I was going to say the same thing. Escolastica is brides name, I. Have a great great grandmother with that name and the same info that Rene gave you was what I was going to give you. Glad we could help you. Have a great day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Marriage

Date: 3 March 1783, afternoon :) Linda On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 7:38:18 AM UTC-7, Rene Downey wrote: > > Can someone help me read this marriage certificate? > > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Marriage

Hi Rene, I see: groom = Antonio de Pimintel groom's father = Jose de Arruda groom's mother = it looks to me like the priest made an insertion to the text in the margin (see the "+" signs); ? "da Encarnacao, ja defuntos" bride = Echolastica de Medeiros bride's father = Antonio de

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record for DomingosGoncalves (Duarte) and Ines Goncalves from Quatro Ribeiras

Thank you. I love went I can take an unknown line and tie it to a generation that I know the records are correct. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bill Seidler Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 7:57 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record for Domingos Goncalves (Duarte) and Ines Goncalves from Quatro Ribeiras

I've looked at both records and agree with you. It looks like Manuel Jorge and Domingos Gonçalves both have Simam? Gonçalves and Beatriz Gonçalves listed as parents; Maria Machado and Ines Gonçalves both have Salvador Lucas (Luques) (da Guiar) and Ana Gonçalves listed as parents. So just as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

Lillian, I don't know where "here" is, as I can't see what you are thinking in your head. You provided a link to baptisms on Sao Miguel island, not the finding aids of Sao Jorge island. I can't screen shot it, as the drop down menus don't stay "stuck." Go to the Azores GenWeb here:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

So, now, please help. I'm more than rusty not having searched for quite a while. top left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1836-1847/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1836-1847_item1/P111.html Looks like the mother is Dona Maria Julia Raposo of Divino Esparito, she was Born

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

I am here: I think this is the right place. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1836-1847/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1836-1847_item1/P92.html On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Lillian, > > Go to the Azores GenWeb and check for indices and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

Lillian, you need to go to the AzoresGenWeb site, http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/, and download the map for Sao Jorge. Just looking at your info I would say to start to look in Santa Barbara da Manadas, Councelho of Velas. You need to get familiar with the villages and church names. Rosemarie

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

Lillian, Go to the Azores GenWeb and check for indices and other finding aids for Sao Jorge island. The Azores GenWeb gal, Kathy Cardoza, has been adding them as she receives them. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

Thank you so much! Hope I can find records for Sao Jorge. This is a whole new island for me. On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 5:19:51 PM UTC-7, Lillian Palko wrote: > > > > On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 3:51:57 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Francisco is 23, native of and baptized in this

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 3:51:57 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: > > Francisco is 23, native of and baptized in this parish, legitimate son of > Miguel de Medeiros and Theresa de Jesus, both of this parish. > > Maria is 22, native of and baptized in the parish of Divino Espirito >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

Francisco is 23, native of and baptized in this parish, legitimate son of Miguel de Medeiros and Theresa de Jesus, both of this parish. Maria is 22, native of and baptized in the parish of Divino Espirito Santo, lugar de Maia, Conselho de Ribeira Grande. She is daughter of Jose Maria

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage translation

Sorry! Here is the link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1860-1864_item1/P105.html On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-7, Lillian Palko wrote: > > *Here is the link, it is the second page of a marriage for Francisco

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage of Antonio Vieira Lourencoand Maria do Espirito Santo in Altares, Terceira

thanks Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: JR Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:34 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage of Antonio Vieira Lourencoand Maria do Espirito Santo in Altares, Terceira page 96, Altares, abt May- 1746, date is unreadable and is based

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo in Altares, Terceira

page 96, Altares, abt May- 1746, date is unreadable and is based on next page date, which is June 3- 1746. Initially we thought the name was Beatriz Coelha (actually Cotta) , but Bill or someone else found Beatriz' marriage and it definitely says Beatriz Cotta. Antonio Vieira Lourenco filho de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

Yes, you have to be at an FHC or affiliate library: [image: Inline image 1] Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:27 AM, linda wrote: > JR, > > If

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

JR, If you can visit an LDS Family History Center in your area, you can access a number of digital files from their computers that are not publicly available. Some of these resources are downloadable, and depending on the resource, the staff at the Center may allow you to download files to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

That's excellent Bill. Feb 14- 1711, Sao George de Doze Ribeiras, Antonio Coelho filho de Joao Glz de Ornellas e sua mulher Beatriz de Mello com, moradores na parochial de S, Roque do Altares com Beatriz Cota viuva de Andre Mdo ambos moradores nesta parochial de S. George donde esta

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

Hello Doreen, This may be the other couple (the bride's parents) if what I read as Beatriz Coelho is actually Couto. It is faint and hard do read but I believe it is Antonio Coelho, son of ?Joao? ?Coelho? de Ornellas, native of S. Roque of Altares marrying Beatriz Couto, widow of Andre ???

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

Yes, I was amazed that some indexed the whole of Terceira and so link originally posted by Cheri. As to the link you provided, I cannot access the digital files even after signing up and logging in to Family Search. Perhaps this is only available in the USA? Many thanks for the information.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

Sorry, JR! I read and answered the question in your post in a rush, so I misread it and didn't directly answer it. I found the information included in my response above in *Genealogias da Ilha Terceira* by António Ornelas Mendes, Jorge Forjaz (volume 3, page 254). Link:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

Linda, may I ask where are you getting this information from? I have been following this post to some extent. In my village of research, I have a few marriages that are missing. But you can piece them together despite the missing marriage date, and even pinpoint the marriage date to within two

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio VieiraLourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

ion assistance is greatly appreciated. I don’t think I could do it > without the group’s help. > > Doreen > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *bsei...@gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, June

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio VieiraLourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

help. Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 10:40 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio VieiraLourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares I found a Manuel Vieira Lourenco marrying

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio VieiraLourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

inda Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 9:39 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio VieiraLourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares Hi Doreen, I did a quick search-all of the Genealogias de Terceira and I found this for a sibling (vol 3,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

I found a Manuel Vieira Lourenco marrying an Isabel Feia in 1696. This seems to match the names and it is in Altares where the groom was born. upper left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P69.html I'm not quickly

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading marriage record of Antonio Vieira Lourenco and Maria do Espirito Santo of Altares

Hi Doreen, I did a quick search-all of the Genealogias de Terceira and I found this for a sibling (vol 3, page 254) : I found a couple more entries that might also be siblings, but I didn't find an entry that would match "Antonio Vieira Lourenco". The search function can be hit and miss,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

I did scan the Rabo de Peixe records beginning in 1706 to look for children and found their daughter Francisca in 1708 in RP (right middle). I stopped looking after I found her and will look for more children tomorrow.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

Do you know if there are any children for Antonio Pereira and Ana Benevides before 1715? JR On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:49:35 AM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: > > Great find! Thank you. > Amy > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

I found in Rabo de Peixe a second Manuel Pereira Bicho cc Maria da Costa, Feb 4- 1692; He is filho de Francisco Pereira and Isabel Vieira nats de Fenais de Luz; She is filha de Pai Nao Sabido and Vitoria Furtado nat de Rabo de Peixe. I think it is reasonable to assume this Manuel Pereira Bicho

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

Amy, you have the correct obit record for it states her husband's full name. You will find as you continue searches that the obits' records give approximate ages. Watch for the words (more or less). On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Amy Francis wrote: > Also

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

Also found Anna de Benevides death in 1749, which gives an age of around 66, so born around 1683. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758_item1/P40.html I had thought I found her baptism in 1690 here; but doesn't match

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

Thanks! I found Antonio Pereira's death entry in 1738 - http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1729-1745/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1729-1745_item1/P66.html States he was 50 years old, so born around 1688. I looked for his baptism but could not find it, fenais da

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

I found this in my files and what you posted: JR -- *Ancestors of Manuel Pereira Bicho* *Generation No. 1* *1.* *Manuel Pereira Bicho,* born 24

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

Thank you all! I will start looking with these new hints. I'll post if I find anything. Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

Try Capelas or Ribeira Grande. Ana de Benevides is from Calhetas which was then part of the freguesia of Rabo de Peixe. And I notice the godparents are from Pico de Pedra, which is a very small village just north of, and in between Rabo de Peixe and Calhetas. His name is Bixo, which is indeed

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Sao Mateus, Terciera

Hi Lee, This is what I see: ...Fran.co da Rocha Tristao f.o de Joze da Rocha Tristao e de sua m.er Beatris [illegible] digo Beatris de S Jose batisado o Contrahente na p.al de Sao Pedro desta Cidade Com Mariana Joaquina f.a de Ant.o da Costa e de sua m.er Roza M.da batisada a Contrahente

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage of Andre da Rocha and Antonia Josefa - Sao Mateus, Terciera

Antonia Jozepha V.a de Manoel M.do Fonseca sepultado nesta Ig.ra donde a d.a he fregueza Antonia Josefa viuva de Manoel Machado Fonseca sepultado nesta Igreja donde a dita é fregueza Antonia Josefa widow of Manoel Machado Fonseca burried in this church from whom she is parishioner (+- in my

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage of Andre da Rocha and Antonia Josefa - Sao Mateus, Terciera

It looks to me like it says that Antonia Josefa was the widow [V.a] of Manoel Machado Fonceca. See if there's a marriage in the index that would work for that. :) Linda On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 7:44:33 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote: > > Left side, > > November 4, 1742 > > Andre da Rocha son of

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage record - Fontinas, Terceira Jose Homem and Marianna do Coracao de Jesus

Thank you, Bill! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage record - Fontinas, Terceira Jose Homem and Marianna do Coracao de Jesus

I agree with Cheri on the date. The index shows a Manuel Homem Martins marrying a Josefa Antonia in Santa Cruz (Praia) in 1778. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage.

Thank you, JR On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:34 PM, JR wrote: > Her name is Escholastica Amelia. The modern form does not have 'H' in the > name. I am guessing the stamp represents a fee paid to register the > marriage. Most people could not afford to pay the fee. It is dated

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage.

Her name is Escholastica Amelia. The modern form does not have 'H' in the name. I am guessing the stamp represents a fee paid to register the marriage. Most people could not afford to pay the fee. It is dated Sept 11 - 1889. JR On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

have been occupied elsewhere, so That is the end of the line for now! > > > -- > From: perezsandra...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:57:30 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & > Catarina Lopes? >

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

-0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes? To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano, Pedro's father was Miguel. Who are your 8th g-grandparents from that line? Pedro's birth--top. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROS

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

Hope that helps. > Hermano > > > -- > From: perezsandra...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:22:37 -0700 > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & > Catarina Lopes? > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > Thank you. > &

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

2016 12:22:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes? To: azores@googlegroups.com Thank you. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Philippe GARNIER <mauxcroisesdesa...@gmail.com> wrote: The 1st witness is probably Francisco Lopes Moniz, an

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

Thank you, Manoel On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, mances wrote: > Hard to read, but here I go: > Francisco ...? Moniz, Manuel Pereira, Matias Carreiro, Miguel Carreiro, > Apolinário da Costa, Clemente? Roiz. > > Manoel > > > Em segunda-feira, 18 de abril de 2016 18:18:08

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

Hard to read, but here I go: Francisco ...? Moniz, Manuel Pereira, Matias Carreiro, Miguel Carreiro, Apolinário da Costa, Clemente? Roiz. Manoel Em segunda-feira, 18 de abril de 2016 18:18:08 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, I just found the marriage of Dionsio Fragoso and Catarina

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

Sandra, I descend from Ana Fragoso the daughter of Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo. She married Francisco Pereira in Matriz da Lagoa on 5 aug 1632 and died in Rosário da Lagoa on 27 dec 1690. Manoel Em segunda-feira, 18 de abril de 2016 16:50:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

Manoel, I descend from Catarina Lopes (9th g-grandmother). Who do you descend from? On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, mances wrote: > I think that Dionísio Fragoso who married Isabel Lopes is the son of my > ancestors Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

I think that Dionísio Fragoso who married Isabel Lopes is the son of my ancestors Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz da Lagoa on 20 sep 1593 - CCA #100. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em domingo, 17 de abril de 2016 09:40:39 UTC-3, JR escreveu: > > I don't think you missed

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

I don't think you missed anything, it's just a difficult record. I do know that Isabel is Isabel Lopes, but certainly not from reading that record! I believe all these Fragosos appear to be related. But proving it is another matter. I think Manuel and Margaret have Fragoso ancestors. The

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Thank you, Manoel. On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:56 PM, mances wrote: > In short, I understand it is implicit in the text that they were not > married because they were relatives with a forbidden degree of > consanguinity and they will ask for the dispensation. > > Manoel > > Em

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

In short, I understand it is implicit in the text that they were not married because they were relatives with a forbidden degree of consanguinity and they will ask for the dispensation. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 18:04:21 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > What does it say? > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

What does it say? On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:15 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record. > > Here's what I read: > " ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles > ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Sandra, Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record. Here's what I read: " ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao proibido impetrão breve de ..? santidade ..." "...uma menina filha de João Camelo e Bárbara Moniz, que

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

I haven't been following this thread closely, however I saw the question about waiting 5 years to marry. I had a couple that had kids for 4 or 5 years before getting married. They were 1st cousins and it took that long for the dispensation to go through. I don't know if that's the case with your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Thank you. Manoel did I have Joao Camelo Pereira and Barbara Monis' marriage and their daughter, Maria's, early birth correct? Why would they wait five years to marry? On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > I know of a Furtado's line which is connected

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Sandra, I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period. Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt. Manoel Em quarta-feira, 30 de março

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona Barbara Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira (no marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records). There seems to be close ties of this

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Sandra, Gaspar Camelo Pereira The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors too. They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book. Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the RR book as well. I have common ancestors with these

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Thank you, Manoel. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:38 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > It's written: > Forão t.as (foram testemunhas): Manuel Fernandes Azevedo?, Manuel Roiz, > Matias Barreiro?, e Amador Gonçalves ... > > Manoel > > Em segunda-feira, 21 de março de 2016 11:29:47

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Sandra, It's written: Forão t.as (foram testemunhas): Manuel Fernandes Azevedo?, Manuel Roiz, Matias Barreiro?, e Amador Gonçalves ... Manoel Em segunda-feira, 21 de março de 2016 11:29:47 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? > > On Mon, Mar 21,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Thank you. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:53 AM, JR wrote: > That's not fa. Its fora. short for forao or foram testumunhas > > JR > > On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: >> >> Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? >> >> On Mon, Mar 21,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

That's not fa. Its fora. short for forao or foram testumunhas JR On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: > > Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:00 AM, mances > wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> The record

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:00 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > The record doesn't list the parents. The names that you see are the > witnesses. > > Manoel > > > Em domingo, 20 de março de 2016 18:02:03 UTC-3, Sandra Perez

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Sandra, The record doesn't list the parents. The names that you see are the witnesses. Manoel Em domingo, 20 de março de 2016 18:02:03 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > 8 Jan 1600 Belchoir Lucas e Maria Pereira. Maria's parents: Dos. ? Frz e > Ma? Roiz? I also see Matias Carreira? and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage and birth please.

Yes, he is Seixas. I have it on other records. I thought it might be Freitas. The "F" sure looks like "Th." Thank you. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:15 PM, JR wrote: > Are you sure the father's name has Seixas? I don't see that in the > marriage record. The questionable name

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage and birth please.

Are you sure the father's name has Seixas? I don't see that in the marriage record. The questionable name on the other side is Freytas (Freitas). Best advice is to look around the neighbouring parishes, like Sao Pedro or Sao Jose. You might even find them in Lagoa. JR On Sunday, March 13,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with marriage record in porto formoso

I was helping someone, so this is what I have. The rest by email. *Ancestors of Rosa Inacia da Silva* *Generation No. 1* *1.* *Rosa Inacia da Silva,* born in Porto Formoso, NS da Graca. She was the daughter of *2. Joao da Silva* and *3. Maria da Ponte*. She married *(1)

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with marriage record in porto formoso

Thanks again for the help. I don't think this is the couple I am looking for. I was hoping Joao and Maria were the parents of my Manoel da Silva Pementel from my last post that you helped me with. I was looking for the marriage of Joam da Silva Fajoeira and Maria de Pementel. I will keep

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with marriage record in porto formoso

I have two generations back in Porto Formoso - Joam and Maria's son Manoel da silva pementel b. in Porto Formoso according to his marriage record Manoel's daughter Francisca ignacia de jesus b. 1768 in Porto Formoso Francisca's daughter Anna Jacinta b. 1791 in Rabo de Peixe then next two

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Yes, my error. Secilia. Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage.

It is “secília”, Cecília nowadays, not Felícia. De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Sandra Perez Enviada: 13 de dezembro de 2015 19:03 Para: Azores Genealogy Google Group <azores@googlegroups.com> Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with ma

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Thank you so much. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:43 AM, linda wrote: > Hi Sandra, > > It looks like it says "Anna cabral filha de M.el Roiz Phelipe e de feliCia > Cabral ja defunta" > > Manuel Rodrigues Felipe & Felicia Cabral, she being deceased > > > > > On Sunday,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage - Mosteiros, Ponta Delgada, SM

Yes I suppose it is simply the witnesses. They do not appear to be listed earlier in the record where they are normally found. The record is just out of the normal sequence. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage - Mosteiros, Ponta Delgada, SM

Like Lee, I am very curious about those people named after the groom's deceased parents. The first, Manuel Andrade, seems to be the priest, then it looks like Jose de Medeiros da Camera, ??? Jose Martins, Martinho Rapozo and Joseph Rapozo. I haven't seen this done before. My first thought is

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage - Mosteiros, Ponta Delgada, SM

It looks like it says "em presence de mim", followed by the priest's name (as Bill pointed out), so I would assume that rest of the names are of witnesses to the marriage. Usually, it would say "testamunhos", but I don't see that. On the other hand, I loose the thread of it entirely where

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage - Mosteiros, Ponta Delgada, SM

Bill, You're correct, Manuel Andrade is the priest (Vigaro); In the narrative he is merely stating that those named individuals were signing (signo) below, along with him. He may actually have signed *for* them. As for padrinhos, I don't see anyone specifically listed as such, but, these

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage record - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada, SM

Hi Lee, I read the date as you do, 23 March 1807, It says Jose Rapozo was baptized at Nossa Senhora da Conceicao in Mosteiros. I see his father as you do, Antonio Martins; but I see his mother as Joanna dos Reis. Quiteria Maria was baptized in Ginetes. I see her parents as you do, Luiz

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage record - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada, SM

Thanks Bill - Just wanted to clarify (partly because I haven't yet found the marriage of Joze's parents in Mosteiros and have a feeling they may have been from elsewhere; but not sure) On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:23:52 PM UTC-4, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Lee, > > I read the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

Have you tried Conceicao or Ribeira Seca or Ribeirinha? They are all nearby. It seems to me they should be married circa 1809, just before the first the born, and occasionally, shortly after the first born. JR On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 10:43:44 AM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: I have a couple

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

Thanks, I will try those now. I was not sure which other parishes I should look at that might be close by. Thanks again. Amy On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:12:58 AM UTC-4, JR wrote: Have you tried Conceicao or Ribeira Seca or Ribeirinha? They are all nearby. It seems to me they should be

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

The first baby that made it full term was born 1810. Could she have taken a couple of years to get pregnant? Could her first pregnancy or two result in miscarriage? I'd widen the years first then check the freguesias that John suggested.at 11:12:58 AM UTC-4, JR wrote: Have you tri Cheri Mello

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

The first child I found was Manoel, he was born Feb 1810 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1806-1810/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1806-1810_item1/P163.html On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 10:43:44 AM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: I have a couple that I have been having a hard

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

What is the actual birth date for the Manuel, of 1810? JR On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:53:41 AM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: Thanks, I will try those now. I was not sure which other parishes I should look at that might be close by. Thanks again. Amy On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:12:58 AM

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

It does seem unlikely - but it looks like everything matches. Here is Maria's baptismal record... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1834-1837/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1834-1837_item1/P23.html On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:12:17 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you sure about

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

What can I say? Good on you and your ancestors! JR On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:19:27 PM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: It does seem unlikely - but it looks like everything matches. Here is Maria's baptismal record...

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812_item1/P115.html Top left record, page 112 Verso (back) On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:53:41 AM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: Thanks, I will try those now. I was not sure which other parishes I

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

THANK YOU! I guess I just had to go back one more year. I always stop looking too early. Amy On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:02:01 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812_item1/P115.html Top left record,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

Are you sure about the Maria baptism of 1834? That's 28 years after her marriage and would make her 50 years old. Possible but unlikely. JR On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:06:12 PM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote: THANK YOU! I guess I just had to go back one more year. I always stop looking too

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande

@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record - ribeira grande The first child I found was Manoel, he was born Feb 1810http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1806-1810/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1806-1810_item1/P163.html On Friday, May 1, 2015

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage record - Rabo de Peixe, SM

Oct 25- 1789, He was bapizado na parochial de NS da Graca lugar de Faial (da Terra); she was bap Rabo de Peixe, Bom Jesus. Sometimes people lived in a place for a while and the priest would say they are from that place. But when they get specific as with baptismal info, they will state where

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage record of Joao Pereira das Neves and Anna Josefa 26 Oct 1815

These posts have helped me. Thank you!!! On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-7, Evee Silva Kiler wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1779-1835/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1779-1835_item1/P67.html The record I'm looking at (link above) is at the

[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Help with Marriage record on Jose Duarte

I need help reading the names of the brides parents. It’s sort of in the middle of the page on the right..Maria de S. Jose daughter legitimate of Joao Sylveira ? .Dutra maybe and Maria de S. Jose.

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