robl wrote:
Not that I'm condoning the choice, personally I'll always prefer an
agnostic
system, but, well, maybe the BBC were just realists when it came to the
practicalities of development cost versus ROI from creating versions for
(EXTREMELY) minority OSes? I mean, come on, hands up who
The BBC was set up up so that we had a broadcaster who was not tied to
such commercial pressures, evidently the BBC is disregarding the
reason it was created!
The British Broadcasting Company become the British Broadcasting
Corporation by Royal Charter for that reason and others (another
On 02/08/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
secondly who buys a PVR that DRMs your recording?!
My friends tell me that their Sky+ boxes are highly restrictive.
Again, who (that is assuming sanity) buys the ridiculously overpriced
monstrosity that is Sky+ ?
On that note, what
devices. Your mom can do this.
Cracking the DRM isn't necessary (although that will be done too).
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Deasey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2007 23:28
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] More iPlayer protesting
On 8/1/07
Again, who (that is assuming sanity) buys the ridiculously overpriced
monstrosity that is Sky+ ?
As is often the case on this list we seem to be leaps and bounds ahead
of the general learning curve of the general public. Sky+ might not
make sense to the sane people here, but they have shifted
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 04:26:21AM +0100, Christopher Woods wrote:
The quality was abysmal though, and RealVideo? Urgh.
The simile employed in the DbD article is a little inaccurate, the more I
think about it; the BBC's choice of MS-based systems for its iPlayer
platform is more like their
Not that I'm condoning the choice, personally I'll always prefer an agnostic
system, but, well, maybe the BBC were just realists when it came to the
practicalities of development cost versus ROI from creating versions for
(EXTREMELY) minority OSes? I mean, come on, hands up who here on the list
.
It's an old-fangled piece of tech called a video recorder.
But that's just me
S.
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Sent: 01 August 2007 09:39
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] More iPlayer protesting
Not that I'm
Christopher Woods wrote:
I mean, come on, hands up who here on the list
uses Linux as their primary OS.
Me.
And (FWIW) my wife (her choice).
I'm three years sober ;)
David
PS We can't even dual-boot anymore.
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Me too!
On 01/08/07, robl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not that I'm condoning the choice, personally I'll always prefer an
agnostic
system, but, well, maybe the BBC were just realists when it came to the
practicalities of development cost versus ROI from creating versions for
(EXTREMELY)
On 1 Aug 2007, at 12:40, David Greaves wrote:
Christopher Woods wrote:
| I mean, come on, hands up who here on the list
| uses Linux as their primary OS.
I use Linux and OSX (also unsupported as of now).
I have a Vista box which is connected in an office, where I wouldn't
want to use it,
And me!
It's a fatally flawed argument to suggest that because the majority of
computers now are Windows based, then the BBC can make a good case for
using a Microsoft system for distribution. With the Vista bugs being a
case in point, the BBC isn't tying itself to a standard, it's tying
On 01/08/07, Paul Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The choice of the BBC not to use these is almost certainly because of the
ability to hack them. Imagine if they released a system based on something
open and it got hacked within 3 days?
There's already a hacked version of iPlayer, it's
On 01/08/07, Paul Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are times when I
think that the Linux community expects everything for nothing, and if it's
not forthcoming that a company is either stupid or short sighted or
similar.
No, the software freedom movement doesn't expect anything for
At 04:26 +0100 1/8/07, Christopher Woods wrote:
The quality was abysmal though, and RealVideo? Urgh.
The simile employed in the DbD article is a little inaccurate, the more I
think about it; the BBC's choice of MS-based systems for its iPlayer
platform is more like their choice to broadcast in
On 8/1/07, Simon Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(EXTREMELY) minority OSes? I mean, come on, hands up who here on the
list uses Linux as their primary OS.
And me. And as such I just accept that if I want to watch any channel's
output on-demand, there's a box in my living room that will
On 01/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not advocating eye patches and peg legs here, but personally I don't see
a moral difference between getting something that's available on demand free
from iPlayer via other means. That could be a PVR, or it could be getting it
from a
On 01/08/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not advocating eye patches and peg legs here, but personally I don't
see
a moral difference between getting something that's available on demand
free
from iPlayer via other
On 01/08/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe the BBC were just realists when it came to the
practicalities of development cost versus ROI from creating versions for
(EXTREMELY) minority OSes? I mean, come on, hands up who here on the list
uses Linux as their primary OS.
me as
of no ETA though). Don't know as to the
authenticity of that, maybe a BBC bod could give me the partyline on that?
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From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2007 18:50
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] More iPlayer protesting
On 01
On 8/1/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With regards to worldwide takeup, I too thought the iPlayer was a UK-only
thing, but I've heard rumblings about it becoming a paid-for service outside
our borders in the future (I know of no ETA though). Don't know as to the
authenticity
On 01/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/08/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not advocating eye patches and peg legs here, but personally I don't
see
a moral difference between getting something that's
Subject: Re: [backstage] More iPlayer protesting
On 8/1/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With regards to worldwide takeup, I too thought the iPlayer was a
UK-only thing, but I've heard rumblings about it becoming a
paid-for
service outside our borders in the future (I know
At 19:41 +0100 31/7/07, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 30/07/07, Jeremy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From time to time there has been (mostly around iPlayer) some strong
criticism of how the BBC develops products. That's good.
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/blog/BBCcorrupted
August 14th
From today, you will need to own a Microsoft operating system to view
BBC programming on the web. This is akin to saying you must own a Sony
TV set to watch BBC TV.
He's quite right, because when they launched the trial of the iPlayer,
the BBC shut off the cross-platform system they *used* to run
: Dave Crossland
Subject: Re: [backstage] More iPlayer protesting
From today, you will need to own a Microsoft operating
system to view BBC programming on the web. This is akin to
saying you must own a Sony TV set to watch BBC TV.
He's quite right, because when they launched the trial
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