Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-24 Thread shahram rohani
--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu wrote: From: Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:05 PM The Baha'i Studies

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-24 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
to BAHAULLAL's word-as you claimed- abt the limitation of teaching in israel.other discussed points are clear. warmest regards/Rohani --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu wrote: From: Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-24 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
regards/Rohani --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu wrote: From: Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:05 PM The Baha'i Studies

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-24 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv .they just arouse the emotions n feelings of the youth.but at the same time it shows the complexities of legal issues that requires wisdom n reasoning, referring to the articles of code,etc.I hope you cud realize what I mean. Dear Shahram, You keep talking about

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-24 Thread firestorm
The Baha'i Studies Listserv ;you know tt he participated in muslim prays even till the last days.from whom we are learning? believe that our community cud hv a better situation,if we had more suitable guidelines and there it is. (that's an american expression that warriors would understand.)

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread shahram rohani
Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran To: shahramroh...@yahoo.com Cc: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 5:52 PM IT SEEMS THAT YR WORDS ARE FULL OF ANGER TOWARD

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Dean Betts
...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Fwd: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran To: shahramroh...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 7:11 PM -- Forwarded

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
THERE WAS NOT THE COUNTRY OF ISRAEL.BUT IN THE LETTER OF UHJ IT IS REFERRED TO THE RESIDENTS, AND NATIONALS OF ISRAEL AND ITS AIR BORDER... WARMEST GREETINGS/ROHANI --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Ahang Rabbani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Why are folks wasting their time with this character, Shahram Rohani (or whatever his real name is)? The creatures that serve their master-puppet, the so-called Ministry of Intelligence (now there's an irony! What a name for an organization that has no intelligence!),

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
IN THE LETTER OF UHJ IT IS REFERRED TO THE RESIDENTS, AND NATIONALS OF ISRAEL AND ITS AIR BORDER... WARMEST GREETINGS/ROHANI --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv This list is open to all, including non-Baha'is like yourself. Not entirely. It is a private list and ultimately Mark Foster decides who and who is not welcome here. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The creatures that serve their master-puppet, the so-called Ministry of Intelligence (now there's an irony! What a name for an organization that has no intelligence!), are trying to infiltrate all Baha'i lists and take over discussions. Don't waste your time with

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread shahram rohani
for others.sorry fr too much headache.I hope you wl study the essential parts of my previous post,and let me know yr reasonable comments. Yours/Rohani --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
KNOWLEDGE N EXPERIENCE.MY SOCIAL VIEW AND BEHAVIOR ARE ALSO TAKEN FM MY KNOWLEDGE AND SITUATION. WARMEST REGARDS/ROHANI --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Ahang Rabbani ahang.rabb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ahang Rabbani ahang.rabb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv For Shahram Rouhani http://www.goftman-iran.info/content/view/1192/10/ in Persian. Regards, Iskandar __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear dr.S.Maneck, hi it is actually my habit to write in capital letter.in some way it is easier. Dear Shahram, I thank you for accepting our request that you not do so here. I realize that because there are no caps in Persian you may not realize how they come

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Iskandar, For the benefit of list members who don't read Persian, would you summarize this website? warmest, Susan On 2/23/09, Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.edu wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv For Shahram Rouhani

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv It's a fairly longish article about the arrests and detentions without a charge, without any arraignment or trial of any sort. It also examines the current atomsphere of paranoia about espionage in Iran and the government's exploitation of that fear to suppress any

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Perhaps Shahram himself should like to translate it. Indeed. But he might be too busy translating the texts of all those laws which Baha'is have supposedly broken. ;-} __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hamid Hamidi is not a Baha'i and has no affiliation with the Baha'i community. Like so many enlightened Iranians, Mr. Hamidi has come to recognize the wrongs, harms and injuries perpetrated against the Baha'is over the last 160 years by a fanatical and degenerate

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Ahang Rabbani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I prefer to give references to Iran Press Watch, since IPW was so central to this story. Just do s search on we are ashamed on our site and you'll find a bunch of relevant stories. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskan...@buffalo.eduwrote: The

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes, that's very true. http://www.iranpresswatch.org/?s=we+are+ashamedsearchsubmit=Search http://www.iranpresswatch.org/page/2/?s=we+are+ashamedsearchsubmit=Search Much love, Iskandar On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Ahang Rabbani wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv I prefer

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-22 Thread shahram rohani
ARE INTERESTED IN PEACE,LOVE,UNITY.WE PRAY FOR THAT.WE HATE BLOODSHED. WARMEST/SHAHRAM  ROHANI  --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Subject: Fwd: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran To: shahramroh...@yahoo.com Date

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-22 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv IT SEEMS THAT YR WORDS ARE FULL OF ANGER TOWARD THE IRAN STATE AND THE BAHAIS LIKE ME WHO TRY TO FIND A MIDDLE WAY TO GET OUT OF THE CURRENT CRISIS,ACCORDING TO THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF FAITH. Dear Shahram, Are you trying to tell us you are a Baha'i? Do you believe

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-22 Thread Matt Haase
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Shahram, Nothing you have written thus far has been proven with any evidence. You have just made claims, b ut have not provided sources to prove their validity. Which Baha'is killed by the government were 'corrupt', for example? Why were they 'corrupt'? Why is it

illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-21 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv -- DEAR FRIENDS, HI ATTORNEY GENERAL OF IRAN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ALL THE ORGANIZATIONAL ACTIVITIES OF THE HAIFAN BAHAI COMMUNITY OF IRAN,IN DIFFERENT LEVELS,BOTH ADMINISTRATIVE AND TEACHING ACTIVITIES,ARE HARMFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE TO THE SOCIAL ORDER AND NATIONAL

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv DEAR FRIENDS, HI ATTORNEY GENERAL OF IRAN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ALL THE ORGANIZATIONAL ACTIVITIES OF THE HAIFAN BAHAI COMMUNITY OF IRAN, If they want Baha'i activities to cease, that's what they should say. There is no *Haifan* Baha'i community in Iran. IN

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-21 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan and Dear all, We all bahais know that the Iranian government doesn't want any bahai activities in Iran. That's a political decision. As long as bahais are teaching a new way to understand the messages of God, they are a real danger for the old-established

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv As far as I know, the limitation of bahais activities in Israel were part of what was negociated by Shoghi Effendi during the 50's. Dear Loic, That's incorrect. Not teaching the Faith in Palestine is a policy that was established by Baha'u'llah Himself when