After experimenting with several heirloom breeds, I've been most
satisfied with Rhode Island Reds or for the variety of bird that
passes for Rhode Island in this country currently.
Like Joel Salatin, I buy my feed from a local mill and augment it
liberally from the garden, the table, and the
Speaking of paper trail, our certifiers are holding a two day work shop on
how to keep records under the NOP rule. Chris and I are still debating
wether or not we will re certify under the new rule. I wonder how many US
growers on BDNOW! are considering dropping organic certification?
Christy -
from Aubrey Organics
http://www.aubrey-organics.com/news/article.cfm?story_id=69
Into the 21st Century
Food Fight for the Future
(From Fall 1996)
by J.P. Harpignies
From millennia as gatherers and hunters, and later farmers, we have
recently evolved into a species in which very few people (at
Love this idea, resume of sorts, as I am new to this I would like to
join the family ..
Thanks -Jane Parker
Maybe you could suggest a little format to get things started?
You are new here, Jane Parker! Create your own 'little format' and go for it.
There are 378 subscribers on the list right
Frank - It's my understanding that the compost vicki used was so poor
that it technically was not compost. It most definitely was not GOOD
COMPOST THAT HAD E-COLI, but it was drawn from uncomposted materials
at a commercial compost facility. Am I off base here?
If I'm making a point, the first
OK, folks, schedule your programs, get your site ready, know who is
publicizing it for you, etc and then lets talk how we are going to
distribute/share videos.
Glad there is so much interest!!
You've got to check this out!
It's like we've been dogpaddling in someone elses morphgenic wake for
the past two weeks!!
If this is not motivation to express outselves to the world, we just
as well give up and buy our mantras.
I find it interesting that in Ken Wilber's very catholic approach
Just a sec. We already did that. The oregonbd.org site has our six
week intro course posted in its entirety -- and it's free. I tried
to include summaries of the various points of view, it's based on
experiences from a human-interface class, we are slowing adding
second-level material.
What we are doing here is holding an annual series of weekly videos
(most from Bullfrog) about the leading minds in sustainable
agriculture. Among these videos, we include LIFE IN THE SOIL and the
Podolinsky film. Having this series allows us to get weekly publicity
in the local newspapers.
I do not understand the concern about compost tea. A survey released this week
in Oz has found that something like 40% of women and 65% of men do not wash
their hands after using the toilet. I consider that any risk from
foliar sprays
of compost tea pales into insignificance..
Gil
I think
Everyone gets on the lifeboat this time [Jane Parker
2002]...SStorch,
Steve - I keep getting conflicting reports: do you have a wife and
kids or are you a bachelor? -Allan
You're probably referring just now to Frank Teuton's recent message
on hidden agenda's in tea brewing. That message was transferred from
another list and appeared to be all quotes, wlhich it was, but it was
new to this list.
A very valueable forwarding it was, too.
Your points are certainly
And to remember out task on feeding health I want to add that one will no eat
while someone else has nothing to eat.
Can someone fill us in more on this: I heard on PBS yesterday that
Bangledesh was contributing more than any nation to the
re-establishment of schools in Afghanistan, proving,
I would love to duplicate the program here, can I $$$ to copy the videos???
SStorch
YOu can buy all of them but Life in the soil and Podolinsky from
Bullfrog. Bullfrog is on the web and EVERYBODY should get a copy of
their new catalog: filled with socially, Earthly, conscious video.
There are
This article from NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/10/magazine/10ANIMAL.html?ex=1038101072ei=1en=0d7793f8408ad9c7
An Animal's Place
November 10, 2002
By MICHAEL POLLAN
The first time I opened Peter Singer's ''Animal
Liberation,'' I was dining alone at the Palm, trying to
enjoy a
Sunday, November 17 - Introductory lecture - 2:00 - 4:00 p.m.
Coolfont Resort, Berkeley Springs, West Virginia. This lecture is
free.
Monday, November 18 - Workshop - 9:30 - 4:30 p.m., Coolfont Resort,
Berkeley Springs, West Virginia. Cost $50 with pre-registration or
$60 at the door. Lodging
Hugh - Anyone -
I can't find the details on this event on the web right now. Has it happened?
If so, what was the attendence and how did it go?
Tapes/Videos available?
Thanks
-Allan
not ashamed of knowing less than someone else, in
fact, am slow enough to look at almost everyone as a teacher. Aside
from this, I'm all for organizing at the local level and think that,
ideally, CSA is a route to redemption.
Allan Balliett
who is currently atoning for delivering the CSA concept
Have a meeting for farmer on how to organize cooperative markets
2 people will come.
Have a class on how to get 2 blades of grass instead of one you
had better rent a huge hall.
Maybe I missed the point of the above, Markess, but in our area, tell
farmers how to make money fast (Joel
Hello all,
I tried searching the archives for the results of Elaine's testing
of the bd preps but for some reason was unable to find them. Does
someone have them handy to forward to me so I can share them with
Jean-Paul?
Thanks,
Jane Sherry
Oh, please, Jane, tell me what Jean-Paul wants with
Folks -
I really does disturb me to have a guest as valueable to the
biodynamic movement in North America as Will Winter is badgered in
public as though he were airey-fairie. Those who do not attend ACRES
USA conferences or do not read ACRES USA monthly (or daily as I
do...for reasons I also
Sorry if you read me wrong, Jane. My intention was not to chastise
you but simply bring you up to date. No emotional energy here.
I have total respect for Jean-Paul, which is why I was curious about
why he would care about the physcial attributes of the preps.
Your remark about 'political
I met you extension agent at the Mid Atlantic Conference on Sunday and he
asked if I would be interested in speaking about my work at Macari Vineyard.
I agreed. SStorch
Did he ask you to speak at the PA conference or was he asking you to
speak in VA in conjunction with the viticulture work he
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Dear friend,
During the past few months I have been wrestling with the thought of
whether we can continue with our work with
Folks -
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Thanks
-Allan
Perry - I went to the site and couldn't find any reference to
biodynamics (this is the NC site I'm referring to.)
How (or Who?) is biodynamics involved??
I'm VERY curious.
Thanks -Allan
Allan and others interested in grapes,
Do you know about this workshop? Extension and Biodynamics giving a
The next closest BD farm is Victor, Montana, but it's too far. I will
have to try and find an organic cow in Sandpoint.
It's always important to remember, folks, the even a teacher as
particular as Peter Proctor has stated 'Half a cherry is better than
no cherry at all in terms of making the
I have a request for contact info for flow form dealers in North
America. Please post what information you have.
I seem to have lost my contactinfo for Jenn Green. Any help would be
appreciated. (How's Jennifer doing, btw?)
LATER
-ALLAN
Here we go again making up all sorts of restrictions. Merla, just find some
grass fed cows, preferably off unsupered pasture and get it while it is
fresh.
No drama! All the rest is just icing on the cake.
David C
Thanks, David.
This is a very important point, folks. A lot of bd work goes undone
DearStacey,
You're right, of course. But how many will see that Congress's efforts to
give up our rights to president Bush's agenda involves giving up our
responsibilities? It a bit oblique. Anyway, I think we need to strike out
in a new direction, which is why I resoundingly endorse the Green
RECENT GROWTH PATTERNS IN THE U.S. ORGANIC FOODS MARKET
Economic research on recent growth patterns in the U.S. organic
sector, by market category, and a description of the marketing
channels for major organic commodity groups. A summary of various
research, regulatory, and other ongoing
Come on, folks!
WE don't have to reproduce an entire essay for people to know what we
are talking about.
Let's think of the other guy before we send a load of bricks out onto the net!
Thanks
-Allan
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Could problems develop from using some of the preps but not all. like just
using 500, 501 and 508.
Yes, you can almost guaranttee it. These are energy based and the full
spectrum should be used so energies are
My memories of the BD Conference in Lovettsville are so nourishing to my
spirit. I wish I could get in a time machine and experience it all over
again any time I want to. We are on the same wave length, and it means
so much.
Best,
Merla
Hang on to those sweet feelings of brotherhood
Allan wrote
Of course, this only applies to
people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification,
Allan are you sure about this??
No, I'm not certain about it in the long run but the current dialogue
was triggered by the NOSB, or by recommendations to them AS FAR AS I
Hi! Allan,
I grew up in a dairy farming family and it never occurred to us that cow shit
was dirty. I mean to say, there is nothing better to stand in, when bring the
cows in, bare foot, on a frosty morning.
Gil
excellent! ;-)
Dear List members,
Sorry for this off topic request. I will be teaching
A Sustainable Agriculture course here in Brazil
And do not have any good picture or drawing to
Illustrate the posters and folders.
Can anyone help me with that ?
Thank You
Can you be more specific? What format graphic are
I ran across this paper this morning on the Woods End site. It has
appeared previously in BIODYNAMICS. Allan
http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf
worked OK for me - adobe acrobat 4 - its a bit slow
They are located in Maine.
http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf
THIS WON'T OPEN FOR ME
The use of the above url requires some skill on the part of the user.
I don't know what sort of workstation you are using, but I assume it
is a non-conventional unit. What you need to do, most likely is
DOWNLOAD this
If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion
group, you already know that the USDA organic rules group has been
advised to restrict the use of compost teas on food crops. This
applies particularly to teas that use added sugars (mollasses, for
example). Already, however,
Yes, Gil, I know what you mean. I'm crossing the line with this
comment, but I find it really hard to think of the pies of healthy
cows as shit. It's seems more appropriate to think of them as piles
of grass that have through a pre-composting process. Not the same
stuff at all that my dog
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FROM THE DESK OF,
DR ELVIS
BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER,
FOREIGN REMMITTANCE DEPT.
BANQUE INTERNATIONALE DU ABIDJAN
ABIDJAN, COTE D,IVOIRE
Reading the afterword by his wife, Marie, to RS' autobiography, can
be very sobering, giving a completely different perspective of what
life was like for him than one may hold otherwise. It is my
understanding that Mrs Steiner's poem is no longer carried in the
current edition of THE COURSE
This poem was sent to me by Mid-Atlantic Conference speaker and
enthusiastic member of Robert Bly's men's gatherings, Will WInter.
The line Every day we steal from Ourselves knowledge gained over a
thousand years, painfully reminds me of what bad stewarts we have
become in the past 30 years.
Let me say that we wound up getting our biodynamic cheese from the
dairy at Kimberton. We picked up a colby and a cheddar in, what, 5lb
blocks. (Steve Storch did the physical pick up and delivery. Bless
the man.)
The cheese was unbelievably delicious and seemed to resonate with
everyone's
maybe seven stars farm would do mail out too, i think they must do
cheese, with all the yogurt they make it's kind of hard to imagine
otherwise. again if you want stuff from them, manners help.
7 Stars doesn't do commercial cheese, although, as suggested, there
probably is some available for
Steve-can you explain why you would use those preps? thanks, Michael
- Original Message -
Michael - It's an obtuse answer, but one time I removed TERMITES from
my BC barrel by spraying the barrel inside and out with 501. The
termites moved on after ONE DAY. Unlike most BD people, I
One last attempt at explanation.
First off, I didn't make those pictures. The pictures are from a
website called THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF EQUISETUM
http://members.eunet.at/m.matus/ where the botanical content of the
pictures are apparently deemed to be strong enough to offset the
potential
Allen i can't believe you sent that site!
I can't believe I found that site! ;-)
Ah, Nature!!
Lloyd,
I don't believe these are viral emails - more likely Manda Pie IS
the recipient of viral emails from someone with a bdnow connection
and she is trying to tell us something. If you check out
http://www.seedsforanewhumanity.org/ you will see there is an
artist named Manda Pie from
allen ,you do what you want in your life , i don't endorse that
disrestectful view of women, nor do i want to allow it in my home, or teach
my son that it's ok . there is nothing natural in that photo. regretfully
you had better unsubcribe us.:)sharon
Sharon - Don't focus on the bad in life, ok?
It's my obligation as the moderator of this group to inform everyone
that some may find the pictures of equisetum at the link below
offensive. I can't retract the earlier post, but I can say I
apologize to anyone that I inadvertently offended and I hearby warn
the rest that they enter the
Published on Wednesday, October 9, 2002 by CommonDreams.org
In the 2002 Election, The Issue is Unchecked Power
by Harvey Wasserman
Is this the most important election in US history?
With his TV talk of war, George W. Bush has blown smoke over
what's really at stake today:
Only if they start marketing their products in health food stores.
It looks like our friend who used to 'own' biodynamics.org failed to
renew it and one of those sleazo domain name companies now owns it.
This is all my fault, of course. I'm the person who pushed the BDA
into buying
Friends - I took the exact to this contrary cell this afternoon.
Let's hope for the best. -Allan Balliett, moderator, BIODYNAMICS NOW!
Thanks, Tony. Would you mind being more precise with your
recommendations, especially in regard to the humic acid? (I guess I
really need the same info about the molasses, also.) Sort of Which?
What Kind of? How Much? How frequently, and so on?
Thanks! -Allan
Allan try adding some humic acid
At 12:03 PM 10/11/2002 -0400, Sharon wrote:
Equisetium arvense is the recommended one for biodynamics, we had the other
hymale growing in our garden and did an experiment, with fermenting it. The
hymale did not have the strong potent smell as does the arvense, although it
is similar. it seems
There's a good photo display of hyemale at
http://members.eunet.at/m.matus/e_berkley.html
It appears that the pictures that I mentioned earlier that showed
hyemale with 'leaves' were actually pictures of arvense. It also
appears that hyemale tends to be a much larger plant (over 5 ft at
Good quality humic acid is a valuable material - used in small quantities -
but beware there are some coal based products that are detrimental to plant
growth so you need to test first or know someone that has used the product
successfully on crop plants. There are humates made for use in mining
This does bring us to where my mind went this evening.
Would you be better off more in keeping with threefolding by
contracting for chisel or even subsoil tilling of 3' beds. Then get
a quality mower to keep the paths landscape set for work and as
Hugh L. saz - feeding worms-.
We here in
I don't feel I fully understand why equisetum is what it is. I used
to think that the tea was contributing Si but now I think it is much
more subtle than that. I sent in a post a while back about JPI's
analysis showing that the tea has a high S content. And the plant
itself can be described as
For further research read
Non_Toxic Farming Handbook by Philip Wheeler and Ronald Ward.
Science in Agriculture by Arden Anderson
Farming in the 21st Century by Dan Skow
Source of books Acres USA web site http://www.acresusa.com
This is what I have done with help from this list Thanks
Cheers Tony
I haven't looked at the site recently, but isn't his info obsolete? -Allan
Thanks for this good information, Markess.
I'm looking at the 8hp BCS right now. Do you think that it is too
small? Good season's end pricing on it. 26inch tiller: $1700
I don't want to buy one too small, but my only goal is to get a mower
attachment (sickle) for it, beyond tilling.
Allan,
1st is your last about a sickle mower it had better come with a 20
year old to run it.
It will beat you the equipment to a pulp, it does mow well but you
think the spader is slow! Now maybe a sulky and a laptop would make
it bearable. But don't forget the engine is in your face while
Everyone: check the rating on the kitchen grease before you use it on
your farm equipment. Not all greases are created equally and most
farm equipment is experiencing exreme duty.
For me, a better questions would be: how is the Korrow grease getting
onto the soil? On my end, we keep grease
for the partial forward. I trust the purpose behind this was
not to stir up ire over the comparison with Demeter certification. I
would like to access the rest of the original message in order to learn
more.
Paul DeCampo
D S Chamberlain wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Allan Balliett
I know, I know, but...
If you hadn't heard before, I'm moving to new ground this fall. This
means I've got to move through lots of sod, one way or the other.
After several years with a spading machine, I'm pretty happy to think
about working with at tiller again. This is not an endorsement
Down the road from the conference, to the left there were some nice small
tractors for sale, Yanmars, that you could put a small tiller on and other
small implements, they were 4wd, looked in good shape find out how much,
there were two, maybe I'll get one...sstorch
Steve - I guess the problem
I sure am curious why you are happy to have a break from the spader. I've
only had one for this season, but am glad not to be tillering.
Unless you need the walking tiller for small areas, you could pick up a
new/used pto tiller for less $ than the walkbehind.
I have used the pto tiller for
So, Steve, you are not 'feeding' the microbes otherwise? -Allan
from http://www.threefolding.freeuk.com/intro.htm
What is Social Threefolding?
Even a cursory examination of global societies reveals that they all
have three functions or spheres of activity under which all other
social activities can be subsumed:
cultural sphere
rights sphere
economic
Hey!
I'm to totally tired still to go into this much right now, but what
an awesome conference, if I don't say so myself!!!
I don't have my energy back and I have a ton of work to do to clean
up and catch up, so I won't go into any details now, but I want to
encourage anyone on the west
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Anyone have a report on this past weekend's workshop? Thanks -Allan
what on earth is an emotional plague? :)sharon
Great question, Sharon!
Be sure to ask that question this weekend! -Allan
There will be a time in the very near future when those that work with
nature will be the wealthiest, most sought out people.
Now we are (in my opinion) just the wealthiest.
Oh, I get it. So when you say 'sought out,' you mean sought out the
way the over culture has always sought out those who
I've got a chance to get Mark Purdey on NPR this week or early next week.
Anyone who knows his whereabouts (right now), please let me know here
or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 540 668-6165
Thanks
-Allan
Glen, Lloyd, et al -
Over the years I've run into more and more farmers who simply make
peppers whenever they collect 'enough pests.' They do this without
concern for celestial aspects. All that have reported to me have been
successful beyond their expectations.
Ignoring these good results,
Lloyd et al -
I'm very interested in hearing more on the benefits of your tower of
power, as well as information on the construction of it.
I had a short conversation with Phil Callahan at last year's ACRES
and he was advocating a similar device in lieu of actually applying
paramagnetic rock
, and, again, particularly short-comings of the
federal certification, please pass them on to me, here or at
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I'm also looking for 'speaking points' on alternatives to federal certification
And personal positions on certification in general
thanks
-Allan Balliett
Gardening
We got Mark Purdey interviewed today. That's a 20minute 'tape' that
will become about 5 minutes of bites. It's a great opportunity!! I'm
working to get the tape and it will become part of the BIODYNAMICS
NOW! audio archives, which are funded, in part, by the Curtis And
Jane Foundation. THe
Unlikely on the conference front, the dairy farmer doesn't have much time or
inclination for BD, altho I did build him a state of the art stirring
machine with rain water collection, before I left, I am not sure if he has
used it much. The CSA market gardeners are having visa troubles and might
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In a message dated 9/24/02 8:19:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can someone recommend a good source of BD/organic CHEESE in quantity
that can be UPS'd to Virginia before next Friday?
What about Hawthorne Valley??? ss
well, right, but how to get hold of them?
Sheesh, Allan, pour it on!!!
That's what we're here for, Jane. Putting thought into Will into Action.
Biodynamic food can help us all do that, but sometimes it takes a
torrent of sarcasm from a friend that wishes the best for you and
yours, and, of course, the Earth we've evolved on. -Allan
When I was at CVKH we had cheese made on contract by a nearby cheesemaker,
the quality varied, but the quantity should still be there ! Victor from
Shanti Yoga used to ship it around the country, altho I am not sure about
his situation at the moment.the types were Chedder, Colby and M.
Title: Re: Eugene, OR., Nov. BD conf.
Michael - What's the topic of Alan
York's presentation? -Allan
Lloyd Charles
ps I dont know what others think but I dont regard this as an off topic
for this list
hmmm. Watch out, Lloyd! Self-censorship is usually the most total of
censorships. -Allan
Sorry Allan I am a bit thick (dull, slow) this morning and dont get your
meaning - no matter
Title: Reich/orgone books and Seed Sprouting with a cosmic
ch
Dr. DeMeo is bringing a selection of his books to the BD
Conference Oct 4. He is donating a percentage of book sales to
help defray the expense of bringing him to Northern Virginia. Books
purchased through the conference will be
But I do appreciate your sarcasm best wishes, even though you usually tell
me that this conference will be your last!
Jane - Next year's conference is biodynamic viticulture of the
Mid-Atlantic region. Got to get the extension agents and the wine
brewers to quit telling everyone that
I love 7 Stars yogurt, but a Weston A. Price friend of mine told
another friend of mine that Hawthorne Valley yogurt is by-far the
more healthful of the two.
Anyone know if this is true or why it would be?
I suspect that perhaps the 7 Stars dairy doesn't have as much grass
as hawthorne, but
In a message dated 9/25/02 11:15:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suspect that perhaps the 7 Stars dairy doesn't have as much grass
as hawthorne, but I don't know.
450 acres
how many cows?
BDA has mailed the conference brochure but the info hasn't been
posted to the web. Here's some info:
Thanks for posting this, Dave.
EVERYONE - I urge you to share any and all information you have about
biodynamic events, in the US or in the underdeveloped areas of the
globe!!
Furthermore,
I know nothing about 7 stars, but Hawthorne Valley (I also know nothing of
the politics) yogurt is awesome.
Yes, Jane, from your lovely post it's all too clear that you know
little about politics or those who first succomb to 'the war of all
against all.' Count your blessings, little one.
ps: yes, the unit will be making a debut at the Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic
WOW! I'll be sure to be there!!
Has Malcolm done any work with biodynamics since he left JPI?
Hmm, so those of us up 'north' get punished if we cannot attend, huh? You
won't even make those blank tapes available to us?
You're right, Jane. Wm Burroughs used to run a reel to reel recorder
without an input hooked up to it, and then listen to the 'blank' tape
for voices. He says there were
Lloyd Charles
ps I dont know what others think but I dont regard this as an off topic
for this list
hmmm. Watch out, Lloyd! Self-censorship is usually the most total of
censorships. -Allan
More and more it is coming to my attention that the US government has
either the techology to create - - or has already created - -
biological weapons that target people by their genetic background.
Richard K. Smith forwarded this article last week. It brings to mind
for me how we Americans
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