Always on top

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Wilson
Hi all, Just wondering, are there plans for an always on top control in BB? Anyway, BB is a primo wm - you guys are doing an awesome job, and it's much appreciated by non-coders such as myself :) Cheers, Matt.

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Re: Always on top

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Apr-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: Hi all, Just wondering, are there plans for an always on top control in BB? Anyway, BB is a primo wm - you guys are doing an awesome job, and it's much appreciated by non-coders such as myself :) Cheers, Matt. yep, always on top/bottom is in the works.

Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread ciprian
How about adding shadows for the text on toolbar, windows bars and menus? Nothing fancy, just the same text with different color under the normal one, and displaced by 1px VH. Maybe some resources describing the color of the shadow and maybe the displacement distance in the menu files? If someone

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
The forecast: a long thread arguing for and against freeping creaturism. Anyway... I just wanted to voice my opinion in favour of said addition... it would definately add some character additional to BB! DC On Tue, Apr02,02 18:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about adding shadows for the text

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Apr-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about adding shadows for the text on toolbar, windows bars and menus? Nothing fancy, just the same text with different color under the normal one, and displaced by 1px VH. Maybe some resources describing the color of the shadow and maybe the

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Apr-2002 Marius Nita wrote: This should at least be used for disabled menu items. Right now, disabled items look anything but disabled. Also, you may consider having one disabled item that says (empty) or something similar in empty menus. WHY?? An empty menu is well, empty. If I put

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Tue, Apr02,02 09:24, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: This is not KDE or Windows. We do not have to do everything just like they do. And we're also not catering to morons! :) DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Apr-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: On Tue, Apr02,02 09:24, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: This is not KDE or Windows. We do not have to do everything just like they do. And we're also not catering to morons! :) I was attempting to not be insulting (-; Seriously, from the user

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Tue, Apr02,02 09:54, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: And we're also not catering to morons! :) I was attempting to not be insulting (-; *shrug* life's too short to walk on shells. Seriously, from the user perspective, is having an empty menu actually be empty that shocking? Must we

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
IMHO, the only thing that would make sense, would be to drop the menu item entirely, unless it get something in it. Besides, the default menu doesn't have any empty menus... and most people have generated their own menus manually, so why would one leave a menu empty? think icons/window

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Tue, Apr02,02 10:24, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: IMHO, the only thing that would make sense, would be to drop the menu item entirely, unless it get something in it. Besides, the default menu doesn't have any empty menus... and most people have generated their own menus manually, so

slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
I've only been using blackbox for a few months, but it is certainly my favorite WM in the more than two years I've been using Linux. My only beef with it so far is the slit... and not so much how it looks or works, but how programs are loaded into it. I've searched through the archives, and

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Tue, Apr02,02 14:38, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I've only been using blackbox for a few months, but it is certainly my favorite WM in the more than two years I've been using Linux. My only beef with it so far is the slit... and not so much how it looks or works, but how programs are

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I've tried hacks like: bbrun sleep 1 bbpager sleep 1 wmusic etc., but these are not consistent. Any _other_ ideas anyone? There is no good way. The slit is given windows as they are opened and it basically adds them to the bottom of the stack. The only sure fire way is

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Tue, Apr02,02 11:52, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I've tried hacks like: bbrun sleep 1 bbpager sleep 1 wmusic etc., but these are not consistent. Any _other_ ideas anyone? There is no good way. The slit is given windows as they are opened and it basically

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Maybe bblaunch could be modified (with some source code modification in BB as well) to specify which position a dockable app should be in? Just an idea... expand on it as you see fit. :) we would have to come up with some way to tell blackbox where to put it. Seems icky: put bbpal at

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Tue, Apr02,02 12:02, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Maybe bblaunch could be modified (with some source code modification in BB as well) to specify which position a dockable app should be in? Just an idea... expand on it as you see fit. :) we would have to come up with some way to

tidy $HOME

2002-04-02 Thread Jens Giessmann
Hi, because i want to have all the blackbox related dot_files in one directory (the .blackbox/), (who want x dot_files in his home for more or less 1 applikation) i've changed my 0.61 code. I see the problem, that most (all?) bb-tools have their own dot_file or search the .blackboxrc in the

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 15:08, Derek Cunningham wrote: Agreed... _I_ don't really care anymore, since I've found gkrellm, it solves all of my problems (well, except for bbpager, and bbkeys is iconified). ... DC Last I'd tried GKrellM, I hated it -- but I just checked it out again, and I

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper
In blackbox, only, use the code I contributed to gkrellm. =:) *injuring arm patting self on back*. First, make sure that you have remember screen location at exit amd move to it at next startup UN-checked in gkrellm's configuration. Then, restart gkrellm with gkrellm -w and gkrellm will fit

Re: slit functionality...

2002-04-02 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:37:34 -0500 Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I _would_ like to put this in the slit as I use multiple workspaces. I just tried wmswallow as follows: wmswallow gkrellm gkrellm ...and got a truncated gkrellm inside the slit. How do I get the

Re: tidy $HOME

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Apr-2002 Jens Giessmann wrote: Hi, because i want to have all the blackbox related dot_files in one directory (the .blackbox/), (who want x dot_files in his home for more or less 1 applikation) i've changed my 0.61 code. I see the problem, that most (all?) bb-tools have their own

Re: tidy $HOME

2002-04-02 Thread Jens Giessmann
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:48:14PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: as we move things into shared code I hope to fix this. blackbox needs a way to advertise where its .rc file is. Perhaps I want to run tests with a user's config -- blackbox --rc users.blackboxrc. Everything should still

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Marius Nita
Ah, why do I even bother? I talked to nyz about the empty thing a while back and he liked the idea; he asked me to file a feature request for it, so he could put it in moving_target. Then again, nyz is not your ordinary idiot. On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:24:18AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:

new cvs release up

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
For those of you not hitting the site every day. http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm

Re: Feature request: text shadows?

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Apr-2002 Marius Nita wrote: Ah, why do I even bother? All I was asking for is a rationale for why you felt they should be added. I am not opposed to the idea, I just want to know why adding them is better than what we have. It appears silly to me right now. Show me the other

CVS bug

2002-04-02 Thread Eric Binet
I use licq and have its icon in the slit. I can close its window and then click the icon to make it reapear. In blackbox 0.62.1, the licq window reappears in the current workspace (good). But in the CVS release, it appears in the workspace I closed it from(bad). I use the licq CVS from about a

Re: CVS bug

2002-04-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Apr-2002 Eric Binet wrote: I use licq and have its icon in the slit. I can close its window and then click the icon to make it reapear. In blackbox 0.62.1, the licq window reappears in the current workspace (good). But in the CVS release, it appears in the workspace I closed it

Re: CVS bug

2002-04-02 Thread Eric Binet
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: If anyone with some hacking skill uses them (these seem to be opposite attributes) please help me out. Ok, got the message, it might take a while though, I never wrote window managing code. The problem is each item owns its menu. So to click