Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > I would like to enquire about what sort of responsibility, and what the > requirements > are for maintaining the blackbox manpage. I would love to assist Blackbox > develop, > and considering I don't have the programming knowledge (at the moment), this > is a good place to start I believe. >

RE: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Brian Hechinger wrote: > it works. yay!!! > > ok, here's what i needed to do. first of all, set the following > environmental > variables: > > CC=/usr/bin/cc > CXX=/usr/bin/CC > CXXFLAGS='-LANG:std' > > or for more optimization (what i used on my R10K Octane): > > CFLA

RE: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > I will update for 0.65 on Monday! > > But after the summer I'll be starting a freesoftware project under > KDE, so i'll switch (for some time) to KDE as default desktop (to > learn more about it). > enjoy (-: > To make all my spare programming time available to the new project > next year

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
On Monday 22 July 2002 10:38, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > I wish Blackbox and you all the best, and I'll really come back to > > Blackbox after some time!! > > Wilbert let me publically thank you for your effort. You revitalized the > nls support in blackbox and your docs have really helped p

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 01:35:53AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > only CXXFLAGS is used. yeah, i wasn't too careful with my cut and paste, since those are straight out of my .profile. good call. > I will look over your patch and get back to you. there are really only two changes that w

Re: a shot in the dark

2002-07-22 Thread Roy Wood
>I did not bother trying to dig through the thousands of messages (-: > >Yesterday evening I received a mail from one of Sun's people asking me to >please test under 1.4.1 beta they just released. Downloaded it this >morning. >I also forwarded them the URL that Roy provided me for that XML apps

[eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. --- Begin Message --- In this page: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ you write

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:25:20 -0400 Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. > > From: "Eugenia Loli-Queru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Blackbox web site > > In this page: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ you write: > "

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Mon, Jul22,02 09:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > In this page: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ you write: > > "M$ Windows (all varieties) " > > I do not know the problem you might have with Microsoft sir, but this is > > down right unprofessional and filthy to reffer to Microsoft as M$, > >

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mike
People have been referring to Microsoft as M$ for years, get over it, no one here cares. On Monday, July 22, 2002 at 10:25AM, Jan Schaumann wrote: >Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. > >-- >A common mistake that people make when trying to design something com

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
>> I will look over your patch and get back to you. > > there are really only two changes that were made, first, '#include ' > was removed since MIPSpro doesn't use it, and second, std::abs() doesn't > exist > on MIPSpro so i had to use the abs() in the C math routines, and needed to > add > '#in

Re: a shot in the dark

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: >>I did not bother trying to dig through the thousands of messages (-: >> >>Yesterday evening I received a mail from one of Sun's people asking me to >>please test under 1.4.1 beta they just released. Downloaded it this >>morning. >>I also forwarded them the URL t

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Tim Howe
I've followed Eugenia's writing for some time. *She* was often considered a zealot when her husband was working for Be... but I would also consider her a "fighter of the good fight". So I am curious; what would be the "proper" way to deal with the Microsoft "issue"? I've reffered to them as Mi

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > While I can see their point, they strike me as a bith of a zealot with the > request. Anyway, doesn't Blackbox require Cygwin in order to operate on > MS OSes? If so, why not just change the reference to Cygwin? > true, I should just say Cygwin. I always thought referring to the company

RE: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: > Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. > how is it you received this? You happen to be the first address on the screen shots page so if she chose that link that shows a certain lack of understanding.

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mike
I don't know what the big deal is. I'd just leave it, who cares, not worth the time/thought/effort. If people are going to get all freaked out over something like this, let 'em. That first reply was supposed to be sent back to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I forgot to change the To:, :/, then I wrote

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Mike wrote: > I don't know what the big deal is. I'd just leave it, who cares, not worth > the time/thought/effort. If people are going to get all freaked out over > something like this, let 'em. > Cygwin is a more accurate depiction anyway so that is what the webpage now says.

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always thought referring to the company as M$ was like referring to Un*x, it > just avoided the explicit name and the need to pay someone (-: The difference is that "M$" contains a judgement. "Un*x" or it's variants are neutral. It's intende

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22-Jul-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: > > Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it > > interesting. > how is it you received this? You happen to be the first address on > the screen shots page so if she chose that link that shows a

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > You might want to add a short mailto-link at the bottom of the > index-page. > yeah, I suppose I should.

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The difference is that "M$" contains a judgement. "Un*x" or it's > variants are neutral. It's intended to summarize the various flavors of > UNIX-like operating systems with one word. I've started

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Mon, Jul22,02 09:34, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > You might want to add a short mailto-link at the bottom of the > > index-page. > > > > yeah, I suppose I should. [EMAIL PROTECTED]? DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhau

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
"Mr. Brigham Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've started using Nix because it seems more inclusive. How's "Nix" (or "*nix") more inclusive than "Un*x"? None of these includes Linux, HP UX, AIX, IRIX, *BSD, Solaris etc. ? ;-) > Originally I > understood the use of "Un*x" was to protect ag

RFC: blackbox and bsetroot manpages

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
Hi All, Before I get started in earnest, let me know if there is anything that you think needs coverage. PLEASE reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so everyone gets a chance to read your comments. Shaleh has made the following comments regarding the manpages. 0.65-release 1) not all features are documen

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Martijn Houtman wrote: >> Mr. Brigham Young has agreed to take over the man page work. I hope >> everyone helps him as much as they help me. We still need a Dutch nls >> maintainer. > > Depending on how much work this maintaining takes, I would be happy to give > it > a shot, co

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Martijn Houtman
> Mr. Brigham Young has agreed to take over the man page work. I hope > everyone helps him as much as they help me. We still need a Dutch nls > maintainer. Depending on how much work this maintaining takes, I would be happy to give it a shot, considering the fact I am Dutch. Need I contact Wil

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Martijn Houtman
On Monday 22 July 2002 17:21, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > His name is Brigham. Oh, I saw an additional R. in front of his name. Anyways. > What is involved is keeping up to date with changes to the text. Wilbert > mailed me a patch so 0.65.0 should not need further intervention. When > 0.70

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Hmm, ok, count me in then. My first language is Dutch and my second is > English, so I don't really expect any problems with it. I'll look at the > current Dutch manuals to see what "style" they're written in (e.g. formal or > plain Dutch) and I'll just write the new ones just like it. If

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread astralflight6
In mho.. People are simply way too sensitive. I like to think of the internet as the Wild West in a way. People say whatever they want, and it's up to us to realize that we have every right to disagree, but *no* right to censor the views of others. In fact, I actually enjoy this freewheeling

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > People are simply way too sensitive. I like to think of the internet > as the Wild West in a way. People say whatever they want, and it's up > to us to realize that we have every right to disagree, but *no* right > to censor the views of others. This has nothing to

FAQ for Brigham Young

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
Full name Robert Brigham Young II, I go by my middle name but actually answer to both fairly reliably depending on the voice. Feel free to call me Brig. To answer once and for all the inevitable questions 1. Yes I am LDS. 2. No I am not a Wacko. 3. I currently have 0 wives. 4. I have never had

Re: FAQ for Brigham Young

2002-07-22 Thread D. Olson
On Monday 22 July 2002 03:35 pm, you wrote: > Full name Robert Brigham Young II, I go by my middle name but actually > answer to both fairly reliably depending on the voice. Feel free to call > me Brig. > > To answer once and for all the inevitable questions > > 1. Yes I am LDS. > 2. No I am not

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
I was struck by two things about this letter. It was written by a proclaimed "Editor in Chief" and used the most atrocious grammar and spelling I have seen in a while. I almost wonder if they didn't get hacked. I know 7th graders that write better. A lot better. The argument is so out of touch w

Re: FAQ for Brigham Young

2002-07-22 Thread Rachel Collins
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT) "Mr. Brigham Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Full name Robert Brigham Young II, I go by my middle name but > actually answer to both fairly reliably depending on the voice. Feel > free to call me Brig. I think I'll have to start referring to you as

Installs

2002-07-22 Thread greg
Is there a particular or 'stansard' directory to install skins and the like for blackbox? I also want to edit customize my menu selections. Where to look? gr

RE: Installs

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 greg wrote: > Is there a particular or 'stansard' directory to install skins and the like > for blackbox? > > I also want to edit customize my menu selections. Where to look? > > gr if you just do ./configure && make && make install everything will end up

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-22 Thread Cary Mathews
Umm, hi. I've been using BB for a while, really enjoy the minimal feel. I just upgraded from 0.62.1 to 0.65.x (from sourceforge) and had some confusion over terminology. I had assumed that the "slit" was the bar at the bottom of the screen which had the workspace name in it and the time. But from

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Mr. Brigham Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've started using Nix because it seems more inclusive. > > How's "Nix" (or "*nix") more inclusive than "Un*x"? > None of these includes Linux, HP UX, AIX, IRIX, *BSD, Solaris etc. ? > ;-) The s

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-22 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
The toolbar is the horizontal ba at bottom of screen with workspace names and date (for example). Right click on it: it should say "Toolbar". For other definition, see "What is the Slit?" at http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/blackbox/faq.html Jeremy C. Reed ..

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Cary Mathews wrote: > Umm, hi. I've been using BB for a while, really enjoy the minimal feel. I > just upgraded from 0.62.1 to 0.65.x (from sourceforge) and had some > confusion over terminology. I had assumed that the "slit" was the bar at > the bottom of the screen which had the w

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-22 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:02:15 -0500 (CDT) Cary Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Umm, hi. I've been using BB for a while, really enjoy the minimal feel. > I just upgraded from 0.62.1 to 0.65.x (from sourceforge) and had some > confusion over terminology. I had assumed that the "slit" was the ba

custom menus on a per-style basis.

2002-07-22 Thread Benjamin Bunck
Is it possible to associate a custom menu to a particular style? Ben

RE: custom menus on a per-style basis.

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Benjamin Bunck wrote: > Is it possible to associate a custom menu to a particular style? > > Ben No, sorry. The style is simply a layer of paint it does not affect the underlying structure.

Re: custom menus on a per-style basis.

2002-07-22 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 04:32:06PM -0500, Benjamin Bunck wrote: > Is it possible to associate a custom menu to a particular style? Well, not directly, but you could make the rootCommand in the style a shell script that would alter the menu file. Blackbox is smart enough to recognize the change a

RFC: blackbox and bsetroot manpages. Speak now or ...

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
Well I am glad to see everyone is excited about manpages , Before I get started in earnest, let me know if there is anything that you think needs coverage. PLEASE reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so everyone gets a chance to read your comments. Shaleh has made the following comments regarding the manp

Re: custom menus on a per-style basis.

2002-07-22 Thread Benjamin Bunck
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 04:32:06PM -0500, Benjamin Bunck wrote: > > Is it possible to associate a custom menu to a particular style? > > Well, not directly, but you could make the rootCommand in the style a shell > script that would alter the menu file.