Trent Shipley wrote:
Yeah. Well that's not quite _it_.
The crucial feature is being able to *group* the receiver appliances into
groups.
I *think* that's what these systems do. Some hear only the backing track
(ie the filler stuff not being played by anyone on stage), some hear the
music in
Trent Shipley wrote:
Actually, that's not really fair. There have been real advances in the
technology of retail in the 19th and 20th Centuries, and I expect more in the
21st.
OK - I should have said "in a purely traditional sector". By comparison
to MS and Cisco etc who leveraged new stuff,
Yeah. Well that's not quite _it_.
The crucial feature is being able to *group* the receiver appliances into
groups.
What I observed was a single large dance floor. A divider effectively
separated the floor into two rooms. For better or worse neither "room" was
acoustically isolated. Each r
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/6827
Congress Rewards Corporate Tax Evaders With Our Money
Arianna Huffington is a syndicated columnist and author of How to
Overthrow the Government.
As the war on terrorshows troubling signs of becoming a war of error, the
Bush administratio
Actually, that's not really fair. There have been real advances in the
technology of retail in the 19th and 20th Centuries, and I expect more in the
21st. The department store didn't exist in 1800. Sears and Piggly-Wiggly
were revolutionaries in retail. Even the soon to be extinct K-Mart was
Trent Shipley wrote:
WANTED: a wireless audio system for very local broadcasting -- to be used in
dance studios and dance departments. (Ideally, somebody already makes this.
If not, have Motorola give me a call.)
U - ever watched a band in concert recently? It is quite common for
the ba
Quote:Wal-Mart is now the world's biggest corporation, having passed
ExxonMobil for the top slot. It hauls off a stunning $220 billion a year
from We the People (more in revenues than the entire GDP of Israel and
Ireland combined).
I had no idea that Wal-Mart was so big - it's only 40 years old
Last week, being then employed and interested in social activity and exercise,
I took a free dance lesson from an acquaintance.
The main thing I learned was that music is a scarce and precious commodity in
a dance studio. You can only put one, or at most two, sets of music over the
loud speake
http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=26483
True believers are incapable or coming to correct logical conclusions.
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- Original Message -
From: "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: Admin: Server access blocked
> A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two weeks, a
> month, etc., for each successive
- Original Message -
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?
> Jim Sharkey wrote:
> >
> > Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
> >
> > I had no idea
Jim Sharkey wrote:
>
> Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
>
> I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free Internet
> mailing list. You learn something new every day.
Did I miss something?
Julia
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http://www.rense.com/general32/myths.htm
http://www.clevescene.com/issues/2002-09-04/feature.html/1/index.html
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Nick Arnett wrote:
> I hope that helps somehow. I'm always open to suggestions on how to make
> the difficult trade-off between list governance and free-ranging discussion,
> self-determination as a group, etc.
A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
...
> If we are talking about a permanent ban, then I'd have to
> disagree. As much as I think he doesn't know when to just say
> he's sorry and admit he might have been wrong in his appro
In a message dated 12/4/2002 6:13:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Please accept my apologies for this - I have started sending at least
> 5 replies to Jeroen for every spam I get, and he has apparently,
> through a simple (and childish) trick, ensured they come to t
Or the way things have been going lately, it'll be subpoenas envy.
(A joke recycled from the '60s.)
Nick
--
Nick Arnett
Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Jon Gabriel
> Sent: Wednesday, De
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
>At this point I'd say that if someone disagrees, it's his
>obligation to say so.
If we are talking about a permanent ban, then I'd have to disagree. As much as I
think he doesn't know when to just say he's sorry and admit he might have been wrong
in his approach, I s
And the result?
Tail Envy!
Jon
GSV
VFP *shudder*
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: meeces
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Russell Chapman wrote:
> Imagi
Which makes that the second time my new Outlook program has double-posted
something I only sent once to the list. My apologies. I'll try and fix the
sucker this evening.
Jon
GSV Now Where's That Blowtorch?
From: "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECT
Not that this will be a surprise to anyone, but I completely support
Nick and Julia.
Jon
GSV ...For The Good Of The List...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, David Hobby wrote:
> I guess that I support Nick's action, anyway I gave up and
> killfiled Jeroen for keeps weeks ago. We keep kicking around ideas
> on easy ways to collectively deal with individuals who don't
> respect etiquette. But until we do come up with one tha
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Russell Chapman wrote:
> Imagine the boost to the fashion industry... A whole new world of
> possibilities...
To hell with fashion. Porn!
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, & Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
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- Original Message -
From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?
>
> Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
>
> I had no idea you could sue for being banned from
Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free Internet mailing list. You
learn something new every day.
Jim
PS: FWIW, I don't know that Jeroen hasn't gotten the shaft just a little, but he makes
it darn hard to take his side.
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At 11:48 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On 11/27/02 6:29 AM, "Kevin Tarr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your posts are too few and far between Matthew, but quality makes up for
> quantity a hundred-fold.
You, my friend, have earned yourself a beer if we ever get the chance to
meet. And if you ar
> Nick Arnett wrote:
> >
> >This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither
> >Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind.
...
> I imagine that you have collect a lot of interesting material for your
> study of internet communities and how they deal with a
http://cryptome.org/tia-eyeball.htm
http://sfweekly.com/issues/2002-11-27/smith.html/1/index.html
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Erik Reuter
...
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:46:57PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
>
> > Jeroen (which also allowed it to slip by sendmail's access block).
> > That message also contained a forged hostname
Erik Reuter wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a *prehensile* tail. A useless drooping one
wouldn't be so useful, though.
Imagine the boost to the fashion industry... A whole new world of
possibilities...
Cheers
Russell C.
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On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:46:57PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
> Jeroen (which also allowed it to slip by sendmail's access block).
> That message also contained a forged hostname: "notebook.mccmedia.com
> ([212.83.87.23])"
Are you sure? My reading of the headers is that it didn't go through
your s
http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/money/science_shopping/
http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/money/science_shopping/index2.html
Corporations are going to new lengths to probe the minds of consumers.
A company in Atlanta is
scanning people's brains with MRIs, in an effort to record our
subco
The Fool wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
>
> When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference
> between mice and men.
> Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to
> either organism. Both even have genes f
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:53:53PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of The Fool
>
> ...
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
> >
> > When it comes to DNA, it turns o
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of The Fool
...
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
>
> When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference
> between mice and men.
> Mice and humans
Before anyone jumps on Adam, please realize that the series of repeated
messages from him were due to the forged return address in a message from
Jeroen (which also allowed it to slip by sendmail's access block). That
message also contained a forged hostname: "notebook.mccmedia.com
([212.83.87.23]
I wrote:
> NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Fox has booked Will Smith to star
> in sci-fier "I, Robot," an adaptation of the 1940s Isaac
> Asimov short-story collection that set the groundwork
> for robot films ranging from "The Terminator" to "A.I.,"
> Variety reports.
> VFP I was hoping for a Susan Calvin
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference
between mice and men.
Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to
either organism. Both even have genes for a tail, even though it
Russell Chapman wrote:
Sonja
GCU smileys are our friends
And that's the best news I've heard all day... I'd hate to miss out on
your next plumbing adventure. I'm waiting to hear that having sorted
out the water supply, the drains are all broken, or the floor has
collapsed, or any of those mi
Please accept my apologies for this - I have started sending at least
5 replies to Jeroen for every spam I get, and he has apparently,
through a simple (and childish) trick, ensured they come to the list
as a whole.
Adam
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
> not want you to see.
>
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- Original Message -
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L@Mccmedia. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However,
neither
> Julia nor I is will
- Original Message -
From: "Russell Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Assumptions Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten responded:
>
> >>But I dont want to point this at you directly, even
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten responded:
But I dont want to point this at you directly, even if you are getting
involved in this crap.
Yes you are. And no I'm not. I am however entitled to an opinion. Worse I'm even
(for now still) entitled to voicing that opinion, independent of what Jeroen or
a
Robert Seeberger wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
>
> > Nick Arnett wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me say this: I fully real
Reggie Bautista wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/04/film.smith.reut/index.html
> or
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?E299429A2
> NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Fox has booked Will Smith to star
> in sci-fier "I, Robot," an adaptation of the 1940s Isaac
> Asimov short-story collection that
- Original Message -
From: "Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> Nick Arnett wrote:
>
>
>
> Let me say this: I fully realise that Nick has the absolute right and
pow
> From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Fox has booked Will Smith
> to star in sci-fier "I, Robot," an adaptation of
> the 1940s Isaac Asimov short-story collection
> that set the groundwork for robot films ranging
> from "The Terminator"
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/biztech/12/03/microsoft.sun.reut/index.html
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V4EA529A2
BALTIMORE, Maryland (Reuters) -- A federal judge
hearing Sun Microsystems Inc.'s antitrust suit
against Microsoft Corp., said Tuesday that forcing
Microsoft to carry Sun's
Nick Arnett wrote:
Let me say this: I fully realise that Nick has the absolute right and power to
do this. It is afterall his list and he can do as he pleases wether I like it or
not. But I just wish he'd be honest about the motives and not hide behind that
facade of doing it for the greater goo
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/04/film.smith.reut/index.html
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E299429A2
NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Fox has booked Will Smith
to star in sci-fier "I, Robot," an adaptation of
the 1940s Isaac Asimov short-story collection
that set the groundwork f
http://www.space.com/news/astronotes-1.html
High-flying satellites are helping United Nation
specialists look for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
[snip]
The usefulness of satellite snapshots is obvious
in a just-released picture taken by Space Imaging's
high-resolution Iko
Nick Arnett wrote:
>
>This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither
>Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind.
>
>I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this
>difficult episode. I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps
Nick Arnett wrote:
>
>This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither
>Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind.
>
>I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this
>difficult episode. I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps
Yesterday, Jeroen van Baardwijk posted about 40 messages to the list and its
administrative address, all of which were re-postings of previous messages
that were not acceptable under the list policies or were repeats of previous
demands regarding the complaints that he has voiced on and off the lis
More good medical news.
Jon
PILL-SIZED CAMERA USED TO FIND TUMORS
CHICAGO (Dec. 4) - A pill-sized camera that can be swallowed and can explore
parts of the small intestine that other diagnostic techniques miss, allows
for improved detection of inflammatory bowel disorders, researchers reported
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of The Fool
...
> Digital image stored in single molecule
> 10:15 01 December 02 NewScientist.com news service
> An image composed of over 1000 of bits of information can be stored in
> the atoms of a sin
Jeroen writes: << you will have to remove Arnett from his position. >>
Methinky-thinks thou doth protest too much, Jeroen. At least as a Cassius to
Arnett's Caesar, plots upon plots circling in your mind, it shows on your
face and prompts us to say, "'ware Arnett! For Cassius was a man who th
The metric system wrong? That is heresy, heresy I tell ya!
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/12/02/alder.measure/index.html
There is a message of hope near the end of the article, though:
"Eventually, he says, Americans will fully adjust. The metric system was
meant to be global, and the
Reggie Bautista wrote:
>
> Russell Chapman wrote:
> >How dirty can a ceiling get??
>
> That depends on how often you use candles, oil lamps, oil simmerpots,
> potpourri, and other things that put extra stuff in the air.
>
> And how often you do experiments that involve making a working volcano m
Russell Chapman wrote:
How dirty can a ceiling get??
That depends on how often you use candles, oil lamps, oil simmerpots,
potpourri, and other things that put extra stuff in the air.
And how often you do experiments that involve making a working volcano model
on the living room coffee table.
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
>
> I knew he couldn't keep out of a debate that touched on philosophy!
>
> How long did you hold out, Marvin? A week?
>
> ;)
Hey, that doesn't mean anything. It's not like I'm addicted or anything.
I can quit any time I want!
Marvin Long
Austin,
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