George Bush's credibility

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
A matter of trust Apr 1st 2004 | WASHINGTON, DC From The Economist print edition http://www.economist.com/world/na/PrinterFriendly.cfm?Story_ID=2553350 Excerpt: When justifying policies on both Iraq and tax cuts, the administration's case has been riddled with errors. Obviously, the most

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Andrew Paul
-Original Message- From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh great. They asked 1,220 people; not much given that Pakistan has a population of approx. 150 million. I'd make a hell of a lot of reservations before declaring that 65% of a country's population consists of

FBI WhistleBlower: Shrub Admin had Intel Before 911 of Airplane Attacks

2004-04-02 Thread The Fool
The Web of Lies this Clown Show has spun has begun to Unravel further: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=507514 'I saw papers that show US knew al-Qa'ida would attack cities with aeroplanes' Whistleblower the White House wants to silence speaks to The Independent By

Fascist Censorship Spreads: FCC Eyeing Soap Operas

2004-04-02 Thread The Fool
http://www.washtimes.com/business/20040401-104949-2841r.htm FCC leader to stay tuned to racy soaps By Chris Baker THE WASHINGTON TIMES - Sugar-Daddy Moonie Propaganda Soap operas have become a potential target in the Federal Communications Commission's crackdown on broadcast indecency,

Re: Excel file

2004-04-02 Thread harrellmedleg
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RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Keith Henson
At 11:33 PM 01/04/04 -0800, Mike Lee wrote: Note to Keith: saying meme a lot doesn't make you intelligible. Sorry. I didn't realize the term was unfamiliar within this group. A meme is an element of culture, a replicating information pattern affecting behavior. There are many other related

Re: Excel file

2004-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/2004 7:09:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ___

Re: Excel file

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
How did that get through? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Excel file

2004-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/2004 7:09:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was going to say It looks just like a William T

Re: Excel file

2004-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/2004 7:19:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How did that get through? With a Tytlal and a sledge hammer. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Hi, This message is to inform you that Nick's Brin-L service has just dumped an infected message send by Deborah's machine, on the brin-l list. Just to warn the list. And to Nick and Deborah I'd want to suggest that they upgrade their virus protection a notch or two. :o) Infected message

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread ChadCooper
Don't forget hanging mutilated corpses on bridges and dancing around the bridge chanting death to Americans... Sorry, but I feel compelled to state that Islam didn't hang mutilated corpses from bridges or dance around the bridge or chant death to Americans. A mob of deranged people

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:38 AM 4/2/04, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Hi, This message is to inform you that Nick's Brin-L service has just dumped an infected message send by Deborah's machine, on the brin-l list. Just to warn the list. And to Nick and Deborah I'd want to suggest that they upgrade their virus

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:33 AM Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror This is exactly what a Kerry adminstration will sound like and feel like. Ick. Poo. Barf. We're going to

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
Bullshit. We have angry mobs demonstrating in most major cities in the US every year. They are not hanging dead people they just murdered on the highest point of the city. Even in the worst cases here, where law enforcement was not in control, the mobsters were not beng barbaric. Angry mobs

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:07 AM 4/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit. We have angry mobs demonstrating in most major cities in the US every year. They are not hanging dead people they just murdered on the highest point of the city. Even in the worst cases here, where law enforcement was not in control, the

RE: 20/20 Hindsight

2004-04-02 Thread Horn, John
From: John Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, there were 9 separate investigations into the Pearl Harbor attack, the first, conducted by Navy Secretary Frank Knox, began on the 9th and ended on the 14th. The second, The Roberts Commission began on Dec 18th, 1941 and concluded on Jan

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Land
Mike Lee wrote: Note to Keith: saying meme a lot doesn't make you intelligible. Question to Mike: do you really mean intelligible, or did you mean intelligent? I don't want to assume that this was a Bushism, (as in functionable for functional) but, I don't really understand your criticism.

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Hi, This message is to inform you that Nick's Brin-L service has just dumped an infected message send by Deborah's machine, on the brin-l list. Just to warn the list. And to Nick and Deborah I'd want to suggest that they upgrade their virus protection a

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 09:19:32PM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote: Umm, so just what was it that turned this lying, murdering pack of muslim assholes into such perfect poll subjects? Quote all the statistics basics you like, but I would have thought that we were all aware of the vagaries of polls

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is true. Besides, how did they get the Brin-L subscription list? Is your email list server infected? Or did J do it? On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:10:29AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Erik Reuter wrote: Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is true. Besides, how did they get the Brin-L subscription list? Is your email list server infected? Or did J do it? Good forgery? All it has to do is forge a return address of somebody

RE: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Horn, John
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is true. Besides, how did they get the Brin-L subscription list? Is your email list server infected? Or did J do it? Oh please. Why would he include his

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Erik Reuter wrote: Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is true. Besides, how did they get the Brin-L subscription list? Is your email list server infected? Or did J do it? Excuse me!? Sonja GCU: Stop the unfounded harrasments. I've had

The Myth of Max Cleland

2004-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
Michael Crowley, the associate editor of the (liberal) The New Republic, wrote in the (very liberal) Slate Magazine today on the Democratic myth that Max Cleland's patriotism was somehow attacked in the 2002 elections. http://slate.msn.com/id/2098171/ = Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Nick Arnett wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is true. Besides, how did they get the Brin-L subscription list? Is your email list server infected? Or did J do it? Good forgery? All it has to do is forge a return

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2004-04-02 00:04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 09:08:07PM -0800, David Land wrote: Sorry, but I feel compelled to state that Islam didn't hang mutilated corpses from bridges or dance around the bridge or chant death to Americans. A mob of deranged people did that.

RE: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-04-02 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Belief (was: (no subject)) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:52:15 -0600 Not to be difficult, but why do you (generic or specific, as applicable) _not_

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: This message is to inform you that Nick's Brin-L service has just dumped an infected message send by Deborah's machine, on the brin-l list. Just to warn the list. And to Nick and Deborah I'd want to suggest that they upgrade their virus protection a

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
How nice to know that you are safe. I'm terribly sorry I mentioned you or the list in connection with any of this and I'm very sorry to have troubled you or the list with my concerns. It won't happen again. Sonja GCU: ... Deborah Harrell wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: snipped

What liberal media?

2004-04-02 Thread Tom Beck
http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp? story=507514host=3dir=70 I don't know if this story is true or not, but why is it being printed in a British newspaper rather than a US paper, considering that the right-wing screams 24/7 about how all the media in America is controlled by

Re: The Myth of Max Cleland

2004-04-02 Thread Tom Beck
Michael Crowley, the associate editor of the (liberal) The New Republic, wrote in the (very liberal) Slate Magazine today on the Democratic myth that Max Cleland's patriotism was somehow attacked in the 2002 elections. http://slate.msn.com/id/2098171/ But at the end of the day, Cleland was still a

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: How nice to know that you are safe. I'm terribly sorry I mentioned you or the list in connection with any of this and I'm very sorry to have troubled you or the list with my concerns. wry *You* didn't trouble me...but the tapeworm-infested mangy cur who

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:44:25AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Good forgery? All it has to do is forge a return address of somebody on the list and the message will get through. (Not that I really want everyone to know that.) But you just said it didn't come through the list! If it didn't

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 09:13:08PM +0200, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Excuse me!? You're excused. But just this once. Next time you'll need a note from your mother. GCU: Stop the unfounded harrasments. Or, they're found all right. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Fascist Censorship Spreads: FCC Eyeing Soap Operas

2004-04-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.washtimes.com/business/20040401-104949-2841r.htm FCC leader to stay tuned to racy soaps Soap operas have become a potential target in the Federal Communications Commission's crackdown on broadcast indecency, according to a key official who said

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:22 PM 4/2/04, Erik Reuter wrote: Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is true. Besides, how did they get the Brin-L subscription list? Is your email list server infected? Or did J do it? IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. -- Ronn!

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 03:19:34PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. Please try to pay better attention, people... -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread John Doe
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virus infection alert ! Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:22:20 -0500 Huh? Did you look at the headers? It would be a hell of a good forgery if your contention is

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread John Doe
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virus infection alert ! Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:01:52 -0500 On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:44:25AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Good forgery? All it has to do

RE: America the Theocracy

2004-04-02 Thread John Doe
From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: America the Theocracy Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:33:12 -0800 This may clue some people in to my visceral hatred of Islam and my intimate and clear understanding

RE: Meta Level (was Winning the War on Terror)

2004-04-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage I wrote one of the earliest popular articles on memes MEMETICS AND THE MODULAR-MIND in Analog (1987). http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=hkhensonE5ozq9.K8x%40netcom.comoe=UTF-8output=gplain History classes have made us more aware of the

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:21:04PM +0200, John Doe wrote: Scary as it apparently is to you: they're everywhere! * Distribution of Muslims * Africa 308,660,000 27.4% Asia778,362,000 69.1% Europe 32,032,000 2.8% Latin America

Re: America the Theocracy

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:35:02PM +0200, John Doe wrote: I'm getting really fed up with Mike's endless hatemongering against Muslims here. Would this be a good time to ask the list admins to remove him? I'm getting really tired of people asking list managers to remove people. Would this be a

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:29:49PM +0200, John Doe wrote: Pardon my newbie ignorance, but... J ? Cute, but not nearly convincing enough. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:21:47PM +0200, John Doe wrote: No, Nick said it didn't come *from* the list. The infected message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so it did come *through* the list, just not from anyone *on* the list (at least, I hope it didn't). Please try to pay better attention,

RE: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Horn, John
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. Please try to pay better attention, people... Better attention to what? I must not have been paying attention... - jmh ___

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 04:54:41PM -0600, Horn, John wrote: Better attention to what? I must not have been paying attention... The flow and logic of the discussion. Several people haven't been following. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 12:55:41PM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: The mutilation of American bodies was a very *intentional* insult. The desecration needs to be understood from the perspective of an honor system rather than any pure form of Islam. If you felt humilated and shamed when Falujis

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 06:00 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 04:54:41PM -0600, Horn, John wrote: Better attention to what? I must not have been paying attention... The flow and logic of the discussion. Several people haven't been following. -- Erik Reuter Damn you are right, as usual. But I

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:21:04PM +0200, John Doe wrote: Scary as it apparently is to you: they're

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread The Fool
From: Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:33 PM 01/04/04 -0800, Mike Lee wrote: Note to Keith: saying meme a lot doesn't make you intelligible. Sorry. I didn't realize the term was unfamiliar within this group. Mr. Lee is a Troll. Apparently you have been trolled.

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: And to Nick and Deborah I'd want to suggest that they upgrade their virus protection a notch or two. :o) I think the real problem is that people trust too much anti-viruses. Anti-viruses are _useless_: they can only filter _old_ viruses. The only protection

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:26:03PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: How much you wanta bet? :-) How about zero? :-) It takes 35 countries to get to the 90% level. Ouch, my guess on the country distribution was way off. Thanks for the correction. But the main point remains that more than 96% are in

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:59:32PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Its an interesting mix, one survey is much more accurate but doesn't cover the whole field, the other is broader, but with greater statistical and systematic errors. One might argue that one should use the gross numbers from payroll

RE: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Horn, John wrote: From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. Please try to pay better attention, people... Better attention to what? I must not have been paying attention... I thought I was paying attention, but I

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: According to Norton the message had an attachment, which was deleted on reception of the e-mail (and backed up into the machines quarentine zone) to fix the bugged message. I won't dig up the specifics though. It's not worth the effort. Norton does string

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:44:25AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Good forgery? All it has to do is forge a return address of somebody on the list and the message will get through. (Not that I really want everyone to know that.) But you just said it didn't come through the

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 04:54:41PM -0600, Horn, John wrote: Better attention to what? I must not have been paying attention... The flow and logic of the discussion. Several people haven't been following. Some of us don't like to be followers... ;-) Nick P.S. Every mail

Re: America the Theocracy

2004-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:35:02PM +0200, John Doe wrote: I'm getting really fed up with Mike's endless hatemongering against Muslims here. Would this be a good time to ask the list admins to remove him? I'm getting really tired of people asking list managers to

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virus infection alert ! Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:55:28 -0500 On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:29:49PM +0200, John Doe wrote: Pardon my newbie ignorance, but...

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:26:03PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: How much you wanta bet? :-) How about zero?

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread The Fool
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Horn, John wrote: From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. Please try to pay better attention, people... Better attention to what? I must not have been paying

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
FWIW, I just got another presumed virus email, 24K, from [EMAIL PROTECTED], Re: Your software. Bloody annoying. Debbi Off To The Symphony Now Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread The Fool
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Horn, John wrote: From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. Please try to pay better attention, people... Better attention

Cover of Economist says it all

2004-04-02 Thread The Fool
http://economist.com/images/20040403/20040403issuecovUS400.jpg Shrub 04: Don't Switch Horsemen Mid-Apocalypse ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Meta Level (was Winning the War on Terror)

2004-04-02 Thread Keith Henson
At 02:32 PM 02/04/04 -0800, you wrote: Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage I wrote one of the earliest popular articles on memes MEMETICS AND THE MODULAR-MIND in Analog (1987). snip I put the pointers up for historical context. light. Even if they were harmful when they started,

RE: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-04-02 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Belief (was: (no subject)) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:20:49 -0800 (PST) Forgive me for prying, but why exactly do you believe? Is there any one thing

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:39:42PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I thought I was paying attention, but I think I'm lost. Anyone have directions? For the record, what I was really suggesting was NOT that John Doe forged the email with the MIME virus representation to make it look like it passed

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/2004 4:41:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Better attention to what? I must not have been paying attention... I thought I was paying attention, but I think I'm lost. Anyone have directions? Julia Don't forget the left tern at

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror Mike Lee wrote: Note to Keith: saying meme a lot doesn't make you intelligible. Question

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/2004 5:11:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Debbi Off To The Symphony Now Maru I want to know what was playing. But if it aint Baroque, don't fax it. Vilyehm - Falls asleep to most Mahler.

Re: America the Theocracy

2004-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Apr 2004, at 9:35 pm, John Doe wrote: From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm getting really fed up with Mike's endless hatemongering against Muslims here. Would this be a good time to ask the list admins to remove him? Aren't you the same person? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Virus infection alert ! From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Apr 2004, at 1:10 am, Deborah Harrell wrote: FWIW, I just got another presumed virus email, 24K, from [EMAIL PROTECTED], Re: Your software. I get a few emails every day from ISPs telling me I sent a virus. Forged headers. I don't actually get any viruses (or much spam) because my ISP has

RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
Takes one to know one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:19 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror From: Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At

RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
Question to Mike: do you really mean intelligible, or did you mean intelligent? I meant intelligible, in a somewhat metaphoric sense. For example, someone might be said to be unintelligibly muttering. Or a schizophrenic might be unintelligibly ranting. I was referring more to the latter

RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
I know what a meme is. I meant I couldn't understand what you were saying. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Henson Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 6:12 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
Tell me, for entertainment purposes only, what percentage of Muslims worldwide do *you* think got a cheap thrill out of 9-11? What percentage think Osama is a hero? I came across with an indicative poll. Now you put up or shut up. Based on conversations with Muslims and based on the

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
This is exactly what a Kerry adminstration will sound like and feel like. Ick. Poo. Barf. We're going to go kill a bunch of people in Fallujah in less than a week. Friends of your friends. Useful idiot. Does it ring a bell? I thought not. Idiots have bad high frequency

RE: America the Theocracy

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
I'm getting really fed up with Mike's endless hatemongering against Muslims here. Would this be a good time to ask the list admins to remove him? How Islamic of you. Why don't you issue a fatwa against me while you're at it? Mike Lee Islamic Moderate

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Mike Lee
Umm, so just what was it that turned this lying, murdering pack of muslim assholes into such perfect poll subjects? Right. They were lying about loving Osama just to...well, you fill in a theory. Quote all the statistics basics you like, but I would have thought that we were all aware of

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:42 PM 4/2/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 03:19:34PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: IMO that suggestion was uncalled for. Please try to pay better attention, people... I have been paying attention . . . for at least the past couple of years, in fact. I've noticed that

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Land
Friends, Nick suggested that the reason it got through the virus filters was because it was MIME encoded. Close. The message got through the virus filters because it was *not* MIME-encoded -- it was a plain text message that just happened to contain the the textual representation of a

Re: America the Theocracy

2004-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Apr 2004, at 2:26 am, Mike Lee wrote: I'm getting really fed up with Mike's endless hatemongering against Muslims here. Would this be a good time to ask the list admins to remove him? How Islamic of you. Why don't you issue a fatwa against me while you're at it? Still talking to yourself?

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:26 PM 4/2/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: It takes 35 countries to get to the 90% level. The top 9 countries have less than 60%. And of those top 9, in the countries that have the second and third largest Muslim populations, they are relatively small minorities, roughly the same fraction as

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Apr 2004, at 2:26 am, Mike Lee wrote: I know what a meme is. I meant I couldn't understand what you were saying. Nothing wrong with being stupid. Most people are. But top-posting is a no-no on this list. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 07:31:53PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I have been paying attention . . . for at least the past couple of years, Oh, then you are just clueless. Sorry, my condolences. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:42:23PM -0800, Dave Land wrote: The message got through the virus filters because it was *not* MIME-encoded -- it was a plain text message that just happened to contain the the textual representation of a MIME-encoded message. What's the difference, you ask? The

Brin: New Tytlal entry for Avoiding Aliens.

2004-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
Avoiding Aliens, the much needed sequel to Contacting Aliens. -- Highly classified note to all Terragen Field Agents: If you ever need to confront an er over a serious matter, and find youself caught in a crowd situation with mixed clans that include Tymbrimi, or, and this is

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:42:23PM -0800, Dave Land wrote: The message got through the virus filters because it was *not* MIME-encoded -- it was a plain text message that just happened to contain the the textual representation of a MIME-encoded message. I was just looking at its header

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Erik Reuter wrote: For the record, what I was really suggesting was NOT that John Doe forged the email with the MIME virus representation to make it look like it passed through the listmailer when it fact he actually mailed it directly to everyone on the list. No, that is clearly beyond John

Re: Brin: New Tytlal entry for Avoiding Aliens.

2004-04-02 Thread Davd Brin
k. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avoiding Aliens, the much needed sequel to Contacting Aliens. -- Highly classified note to all Terragen Field Agents: If you ever need to confront an er over a serious matter, and find youself caught in a crowd situation with mixed

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
Erik Reuter wrote: So it was text/plain, as you said. But it looks like it used to be multipart/mixed, and something converted it. Any clue what converted it and added the X-Spam header? Nope. Fairly odd. Nick -- Nick Arnett Director, Business Intelligence Services LiveWorld Inc. Phone/fax:

Fed up and Stone throwing

2004-04-02 Thread Kanandarqu
JD wrote- I'm getting really fed up with Mike's endless hatemongering against Muslims here. Would this be a good time to ask the list admins to remove him? Look, we all have hot buttons and things that we tirade on about in our own way. One thing this list has learned to do is somehow have

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Apr 2004, at 2:43 am, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 05:26 PM 4/2/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: It takes 35 countries to get to the 90% level. The top 9 countries have less than 60%. And of those top 9, in the countries that have the second and third largest Muslim populations, they are

Re: New Tytlal entry for Avoiding Aliens.

2004-04-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: Brin: New Tytlal entry for Avoiding Aliens. If you use 714, you hope to have fish with Friday. 714..Rorer IIRC. But was that Mandrax or Quaaludes? xponent The

26-Pound Bomb Found on Madrid Rail Line

2004-04-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040402/D81MVCL00.html A Spanish railroad inspector found a 26-pound bomb hidden in a bag on a busy high-speed line Friday, and police said the device may contain the same dynamite used in last month's Madrid train bombings that killed 191 people. Authorities

Re: Virus infection alert !

2004-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:51 PM 4/2/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 07:31:53PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I have been paying attention . . . for at least the past couple of years, Oh, then you are just clueless. And you are just deliberately rude. Try becoming civilized. IAAMOAC Maru --

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: From: Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:33 PM 01/04/04 -0800, Mike Lee wrote: Note to Keith: saying meme a lot doesn't make you intelligible. Sorry. I didn't realize the term was unfamiliar within this group. Mr. Lee is a Troll. Apparently you have been

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