RE: March for Women's Lives

Ritu, laughing out loud: > *lol* > > You have never raised children, have you, Mike? Well, I think I have; my poor child may have a different opinion. But that's neither here nor there, since my comments were not based on my own experience but on my observation of all the lazy, whining, incomp

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

The Fool wrote: The world Orwell described does not require complete control of the press, just a very large market share. -Kuro5hin Poster Does anybody remember Neil Postman's excellent "Amusing Ourselves to Death" from the mid-80's (Amazon: )? Using "1984" and "Brave

RE: What America Does with its Hegemony

> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I try to balance Green zone reports with reports > > from the Red Zones. > > Well, you have to ask yourself how you feel about > treating the Arab press as reliable. Do you, for > example, belie

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

-- From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I try to balance Green zone reports with reports > from the Red Zones. Well, you have to ask yourself how you feel about treating the Arab press as reliable. Do you, for example, believe that the ent

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

Gautam wrote: http://oxblog.blogspot.com/2004_05_02_oxblog_archive.html#108358591971936946 Ritu, Andrew, I'm sure the Iraqis would be _much_ better off if nothing like this ever happened there. I am willing to make a bet that no report of this, or anything like it, will show up in the supposedly

Re: Is it hot in here?

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Is it hot in here? > In a message dated 5/3/2004 7:27:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >Dan Minette wrote: > > > > > >>2) There is not

Out of the closet and into the Log Cabin

http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/womack/gay_republicans.htm "About a million gay votes went to George W. Bush in 2000. Frankly, I don’t think that it’s absurd of me to ask: What the hell is wrong with these people? Did they think that they were voting for someone more moderate on gay issues?

Catholic hierarchy steering into dangerous waters

From Atrios: " Church vs. Pro-Choice Catholic Democrats No More MNB documents another bit of selective outrage by some members of the Catholic church. You see, Kerry may be disinvited from the annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation dinner, a charity fundraiser sponsored by the New York

Re: Battlestar Galactica

- Original Message - From: "Damon Agretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica > > > Oh come now...what's the problem with DBZ? > > Every time I see it, it seems like they're fighting >

Re: Forbidden pics from Iraq

- Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Forbidden pics from Iraq > > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Killer Bs Dis

RE: Disturbing evidence of torture

Dan sure has lots of questions: > 1) How strong was the emphasis on getting information vs. > keeping professional and humane standards? > > 2) What training did the guards have? > > 3) What was the role of the private contractor? > > 4) How much supervision did the guards have? > > 5) How ea

RE: Winning the War on Terror

Ritu 'rote: > This strategy has worked so very well in Iraq, hasn't it? I > mean you just had to invade them once and people were calm. > After a year, when the camraderie gave a few idiots the wrong > idea, all you had to do was strafe Fallujah and everything > quieted down... Time will tell

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

On Mon, 3 May 2004 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you have to ask yourself how you feel about > treating the Arab press as reliable. Do you, for > example, believe that the entire war in Iraq is a > Jewish conspiracy launched by sinister "neocons" who > are

RE: March for Women's Lives

Mike Lee wrote: >what you consider shitwork It's been fun watching you utilize every corny, cliched Internet argument tactic ever invented in such a short time, Mike. I look forward to more entertainment in the future! Jim ___ Join Excite! - http:/

RE: What America Does with its Hegemony

> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://oxblog.blogspot.com/2004_05_02_oxblog_archive.html#1083 > 58591971936946 > > Ritu, Andrew, I'm sure the Iraqis would be _much_ > better off if nothing like this ever happened there. > > I am willing to make a bet that no report of t

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

Mike Lee: >> All our enemies, including the New York Times and Ted Koppel, are already all over this. Let's also remember that this is hazing, not torture. No wood chippers, no blood splashing all over the place. It's not morally equivalent to what Saddam did (as I've heard several media morons s

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

--- Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure the Arab press can be unreliable, so is the > American. Live with > it and learn the bias. They don't teach that at > Harvard? Well, they did teach us that Marines don't quiver and hide. They particularly when they're winning battles. You might

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

I should add that one of the mercenaries conducting the interrogations apparently raped one of the male prisoners. Is that more like Saddam for you Mike? Also, because he was not a soldier but a contractor he isn't facing charges. We don't want to put him in an Iraqi prison, no crime has been co

Re: Is it hot in here?

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Is it hot in here? > At 09:27 AM 4/28/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >Science is not all cut and dry. There are a number of global clim

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

On Mon, 3 May 2004 17:47:08 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, they did teach us that Marines don't quiver and > hide. They particularly when they're winning battles. They lost. > You might want to ask, what does it say that your > response to that story was "That so

Re: Is it hot in here?

Dan Minette wrote: 2) There is nothing underlying physics. No turtles?! -- Nick Arnett Director, Business Intelligence Services LiveWorld Inc. Phone/fax: (408) 551-0427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Winning the War on Terror

Fallujah blew up because of American miscalculation. It still exists because the Army doesn't want high American casualty urban street fighting with insufficient troops and the revolt spreading across the country. Just the fact they were fighting and how they were fighting cost America Iraq suppo

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

Here is the url - http://www.sundayherald.com/41693 Don't just blame untrained unsupervised Americans either: "The British pictures show a hooded Iraqi aged between 18-20 on the floor of a military truck being brutalised. According to two squaddies who took part in the torture, but later blew th

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

Gary Denton wrote: > Well, I learned about the reliability of the American press > last year when I went to independent sources and found out > that Iraq had shut down its nuclear weapons program > immediately after the first Gulf War. Where did this information come from? That definitely sounds l

Brin - On Writing Hard SF

William Browning Spencer says in an interview: "I've often thought the hardest writer to be, unless you had a deep scientific background, would be a hard science fiction writer, because your fans would always be writing in to tell you what you did wrong. (Laughs) "I'm sorry, you can not in fact do

Re: Is it hot in here?

- Original Message - From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Is it hot in here? > Dan Minette wrote: > > > 2) There is nothing underlying physics. > > No turtles?! > No elephants either! x

Re: Is it hot in here?

In a message dated 5/3/2004 7:27:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Dan Minette wrote: > > > >>2) There is nothing underlying physics. > > > >No turtles?! > > > > No elephants either! > > And no corks! Vilyehm ___ http://

Re: Brin - On Writing Hard SF

In a message dated 5/3/2004 7:09:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > !" Instead > of thinking of your fans as this warm bunch of fuzzy people out there, > you're thinking of them poised to rip you apart if you make some > incredible scientific faux paux." > That's UF-fa

Re: March for Women's Lives

"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 11:20 PM 4/29/04, Julia Thompson wrote: > >Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:42 PM > > > Sub

RE: City of Heroes

> From: Jim Sharkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'm very tempted for the first time ever. I love comics, and > it looks like a hoot. A bunch of my fellow PvP forumites are > playing it and having a great time. But I'm afraid time > constraints and a lack of high-speed Internet are going to

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

--- Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I try to balance Green zone reports with reports > from the Red Zones. Well, you have to ask yourself how you feel about treating the Arab press as reliable. Do you, for example, believe that the entire war in Iraq is a Jewish conspiracy launched by si

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

http://www.prisonexp.org/ Gary http://elemming2.blogspot.com On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:44:01 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Anyone here ever seen the results of Zambardo's > >Stanford Prison Experiment? > > Do you have a link for that? I'm currently engaged in a debate on this

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

On Mon, 3 May 2004 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am willing to make a bet that no report of this, or > anything like it, will show up in the supposedly > "independent" news sources that you two rely on. Yes, I like the internet you can get the reports from al

Re: Battlestar Galactica

> Oh come now...what's the problem with DBZ? Every time I see it, it seems like they're fighting the EXACT same fight scene as the day before, and the day before that... > But is the new series a redux of the old? Or is it a > continuation of that > Universe with all new adventures? Couldn't s

Re: Forbidden pics from Iraq

From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Forbidden pics from Iraq Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 11:14:00 -0500 IMO, everyone benefits from a better knowledge of the reality of war as opposed

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Disturbing evidence of torture Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Anyone here ever seen the results of Zambardo's Stanford Prison Experimen

Re: Battlestar Galactica

From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:14:16 -0700 (PDT) > I can watch DBZ (my generic name for all things > Dragonball) 24/7. I just > can't

Media Bias: Fox News Smear and Lie

<> FOX's Chavez called Kerry a "communist apologist" -- and then lied about it Four days after her nationally syndicated column calling Senator John Kerry a "communist apologist" appeared in newspapers and on The Heritage Foundation's website Townhall.c

`Understanding Without Proof'

On his Web site at http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004_archives/000734.html Brad DeLong, who is sometimes on this list, quoted the mathematician Benjamin Peirce as saying Gentlemen, that is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don

What America Does with its Hegemony

http://oxblog.blogspot.com/2004_05_02_oxblog_archive.html#108358591971936946 Ritu, Andrew, I'm sure the Iraqis would be _much_ better off if nothing like this ever happened there. I am willing to make a bet that no report of this, or anything like it, will show up in the supposedly "independent

Re: Winning the War on Terror

At 04:46 AM 5/3/2004, you wrote: >Ritu, who is not sure if Mike really believes what he says or if >he is just good at parody I would filter him out but silence equals assent. But I don't have time to respond to each of his over the top statements. Reminds me of some frequent posters I tracked do

Re: Winning the War on Terror

>Ritu, who is not sure if Mike really believes what he says or if >he is just good at parody I would filter him out but silence equals assent. But I don't have time to respond to each of his over the top statements. Reminds me of some frequent posters I tracked down who were very popular on right

Re: Media Bias: NPR Smears Kerry

It should not be forgotten that the reporter herself attended World Press Institute which had (under some heat they are modifying the goals on the web) as its goals spreading God's Word and guidance to a secular world. Did NPR Religious Reporter Cook Up A Slanted Story? Atrios and his readers fou

Re: Winning the War on Terror

Mike Lee wrote: > > > The truth is that sufficient violence ends violence. > > > > That is true enough. But that only works when you can seal the > > outlines of the geographical area and flood the same with your > > troops. > > It also works if you are violent enough to convince the rest of th

RE: March for Women's Lives

Mike Lee wrote: > Any woman who is whining about how busy she is who is a full > time mother of a developmentally normal child (or children) > is an incompetent and/or neurotic attention whore running a > racket, hoping nobody will resent her for how easy her life is. *lol* You have never ra