Reggie, not too effing happy about the f-bomb:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to express.
Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in order to express
it? If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really like to hear it.
How about the idea that
Steve Sloan II wrote:
The Fool wrote a particular word every paragraph:
FUCK
FUCK
SNIP
I've heard claims that men think of sex every x-number
of seconds. Is this proof? ;-)
Well, *I've* heard that the more one talks about it, the less one is
getting it. Which is this actually proof of? :)
The Fool wrote a particular word every paragraph:
FUCK
FUCK
SNIP
I've heard claims that men think of sex every x-number of
seconds. Is this proof? ;-)
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Julia wrote:
I think what Reggie means is the word you get if you remove ire tr
from fire truck.
Erik replied:
I don't follow. Reggie has a problem with people typing the character
sequence f^?^?^? ^?^?uck? Or is it the sequence f^H^H^H ^H^Huck
that he decides to get worked up about? What
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 04:44:35PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
But there is not a single idea that I can't express without using
those words.
Wrong. I just pointed one out.
--
Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 12:07:16AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
So what do we do when X's right to free speech conflicts with Y's
right to freely exercise his or her religion?
The religious brain-rot has been afflicting you for a while, huh Ronn?
--
Erik
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:21:20PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
I think what Reggie means is the word you get if you remove ire tr
from fire truck.
I don't follow. Reggie has a problem with people typing the character
sequence f^?^?^? ^?^?uck? Or is it the sequence f^H^H^H ^H^Huck
that he
Like I give a flying F$#@ what you think is right?
Well, considering that YOU onlu care about what YOU
think is right, its pretty obvious.
It sounds like you are just self-centered and
self-righteous. And not really interested in the free
flow of ideas or debate. You are a hypocrite.
Damon.
At 05:59 AM 3/13/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 12:07:16AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
So what do we do when X's right to free speech conflicts with Y's
right to freely exercise his or her religion?
The religious brain-rot has been afflicting you for a while, huh Ronn?
- Original Message -
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express.
Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in order to
express
it? If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really like to hear it.
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom
I wrote:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express.
Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in order to
express
it? If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really like to hear it.
The Fool replied:
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom of Speech
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom of Speech means a
person is allowed to say
F#$* whenever and whereever they f*^%ing want to,
or need to.
Try again. There is no constitutional protection of
your right to say [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Besides the fact that its discourteous to others, who
may not
I wrote:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express.
Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in order to
express
it? If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really like to hear it.
The Fool replied:
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom of
Reggie said:
Just to be certain, I submitted this question to lawguru.com. I
will post the results, one way or the other.
At most, this will show that the US Constitution doesn't protect freedom
of speech.
Rich
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I said said:
Just to be certain, I submitted this question to lawguru.com. I
will post the results, one way or the other.
Rich responded:
At most, this will show that the US Constitution doesn't protect freedom
of speech.
Again, it depends on how you define freedom of speech. At
Reggie said:
Again, it depends on how you define freedom of speech.
Of course it does, but if you're prepared to redefine words then having
a discussion is quite difficult. It's perfectly possible, of course,
that the US Constitution protects something which isn't strictly
speaking freedom of
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:58:36AM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express. Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in
order to express it? If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really
like to hear it.
What
At 10:40 AM 3/12/04, Richard Baker wrote:
Reggie said:
Just to be certain, I submitted this question to lawguru.com. I
will post the results, one way or the other.
At most, this will show that the US Constitution doesn't protect freedom
of speech.
What do you mean?
-- Ronn! :)
At 11:01 AM 3/12/04, Richard Baker wrote:
Reggie said:
Again, it depends on how you define freedom of speech.
Of course it does, but if you're prepared to redefine words then having
a discussion is quite difficult. It's perfectly possible, of course,
that the US Constitution protects something
At 11:38 AM 3/12/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:58:36AM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express. Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in
order to express it? If anyone out there can think of
Ronn said:
At most, this will show that the US Constitution doesn't protect
freedom of speech.
What do you mean?
I mean that a freedom isn't a freedom if it's constrained, so that if
constitutional scholars consider such a constrained freedom freedom of
speech then they are using that
Ronn said:
Instead of obscene language, then, how about the classic example of
shouting Fire! in a crowded theatre?
That really isn't so difficult. Having a freedom doesn't mean that we
can't make contracts that voluntarily constrain that freedom. For
example, I could constrain my freedom to
At 02:37 PM 3/12/2004, you wrote:
Ronn said:
At most, this will show that the US Constitution doesn't protect
freedom of speech.
What do you mean?
I mean that a freedom isn't a freedom if it's constrained, so that if
constitutional scholars consider such a constrained freedom freedom of
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:58:36AM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express. Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in
order to express it? If anyone out there can think
- Original Message -
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
Reggie said:
Just to be certain, I submitted this question to lawguru.com
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:58:36AM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to
express. Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in
order to express it? If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom of Speech means a
person is allowed to say
FUCK whenever and whereever they FUCKING want to,
or need to.
Try again. There is no constitutional protection of
your right to say FUCK.
Besides the fact that its
At 11:47 PM 3/12/04, The Fool wrote:
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom of Speech means a
person is allowed to say
F**K whenever and whereever they F**KING want to,
or need to.
Try again. There is no constitutional protection of
your right to say
FUCK
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FUCK
At 11:47 PM 3/12/04, The Fool wrote:
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes. The IDEA that Freedom of Speech means a
person is allowed to say
F**K whenever and whereever they FUCKING want to,
or need to.
Try again.
At 12:25 AM 3/13/04, The Fool wrote:
F**K
F**K
F**K
F**K
F**K
F**K
F**K
F**K
F**K
Redundant, isn't it?
...snip...
... There's an idea that the
human body is somehow evil and bad and there are parts of it that are
especially evil and bad, and we should be ashamed. Fear, guilt and shame
are
Julia Thompson wrote:
We had to put a shield over the TV controls to keep Sam from
playing with the power switch on the big TV.
I hate to be that guy, but we just told the kids No on touching
the TV controls until it sunk in. Granted, the shield would have
been less time consuming... :)
Jim
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
We had to put a shield over the TV controls to keep Sam from
playing with the power switch on the big TV.
I hate to be that guy, but we just told the kids No on touching
the TV controls until it sunk in. Granted, the shield would have
been less
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:36:47 -0800 (PST)
What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from
At 03:21 PM 2/27/2004 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote:
I've explained these things before. I'm not going to do so again, just
because _you_ weren't reading.
But honestly, was *anyone* reading?
Or at least reading *and* taking it seriously?
JDG
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:26:33 -0600
On the other I find repetitious use of such language
Travis Edmunds wrote:
What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from something obscene being
labled an obscenity of course.
serious
In the recent months, the only time I seriously considered
_censuring_ TV for my kids was when they started asking
questions about astrology, that they got
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:56:24PM +, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
serious In the recent months, the only time I seriously considered
_censuring_ TV for my kids was when they started asking questions
about astrology, that they got from the TV [Nickelodeon].
I find that much more obscene than
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout
Gov't
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040225/tech_summit_indecency_1.html
Reuters
Reuters Summit-FCC's Martin ponders indecency on pay TV, radio
Wednesday February 25, 6:31 pm ET
By Jeremy Pelofsky
NEW YORK, Feb 25 (Reuters) - U.S. regulators should consider whether
radio and television services carried by
Define Fascist.
Do you believe, then, that the Freedom of SPeech
clause should protect the right of broadcasters to
drop F-bombs or other inappropriate material over the
air on channels when sensitive viewers (i.e.
children)are watching?
Damon.
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Do you Yahoo!?
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Define Fascist.
Do you believe, then, that the Freedom of SPeech
clause should protect the right of broadcasters to
drop F-bombs or other inappropriate material over the
air on channels when sensitive viewers (i.e.
children)are watching?
Yes.
Define Fascist.
You still did not define the above.
Yes.
Well that's just asinine and immature.
Damon.
=
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Define Fascist.
You still did not define the above.
Yes.
Well that's just asinine and immature.
Whatever.
When they came for my freedom from arbitrary search and seizure I said
nothing because I was not a drug dealer.
When they came
Whatever.
Then make a well structured, reasonable post, without
using it as an ipportunity to launch attacks against
whomever you have an agenda against, and explain your
position in a form that does not involve posting
random articles that seem to support your agenda.
When they came for my
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whatever.
Then make a well structured, reasonable post, without
using it as an ipportunity to launch attacks against
whomever you have an agenda against, and explain your
position in a form that does not involve posting
random articles that seem to
I've explained these things before. I'm not going
to do so again, just
because _you_ weren't reading.
I have been reading. You have not been constructing
arguments.
All of these right have been attacked by this
administration, and I've
posted multiple articles about the administrations
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:25:04 -0600
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whatever.
Then make
The articles are not an argument in and of
themselves. I may be wrong, but
that sounds like what Damon is saying.
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm also asking The
Fool to back up the assertation that the US Government
is somehow Fascist by asking him to define fascism.
Otherise its just
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also heavily disagree with his assertation that
Freedom of Speech defends one's right to use crude
language or show inappropriate material where it may
be exposed to minors. I think hiding behind this
element of the
Well then, would it be inapropriate for me to ask
you to please
provide the definition of Free and Speech which
allows freedom
of speech to align with your doctrin?
My definition is freedom from persecution from the
STATE for what one says. Specifically, I would define
it as the freedom to
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:39:19 -0800 (PST)
Well then, would it be inapropriate for me to ask
At 04:39 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:
Well then, would it be inapropriate for me to ask
you to please
provide the definition of Free and Speech which
allows freedom
of speech to align with your doctrin?
My definition is freedom from persecution from the
STATE for what one says. Specifically, I
What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from
something obscene being
labled an obscenity of course.
That's a good question and perhaps one worthy of
exploration. However, its also pretty academic IMHO.
Whether you think the F-bomb or other obcenities are
indeed unacceptable or not, I
That's a good question and perhaps one worthy of exploration. However,
its also pretty academic IMHO. Whether you think the F-bomb or other
obcenities are indeed unacceptable or not, I think the majority of
people in the US, FREX, would define those words as obcene.
So we're going to put
- Original Message -
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
I also heavily disagree with his assertation that
Freedom of Speech
Kevin Tarr wrote:
Sure, we are adults. (Some of us). But a child above three can turn on a TV
or radio.
Above? Try under. We had to put a shield over the TV controls to
keep Sam from playing with the power switch on the big TV. There's a
small TV upstairs set up so's we can watch in the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from
something obscene being
labled an obscenity of course.
That's a good question and perhaps one worthy of
exploration. However, its also pretty academic IMHO.
Whether
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