Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-19 Thread William T Goodall
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:53 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:39 PM 2/13/03 +, William T Goodall wrote: A Windows version of the REALbasic 5.0 IDE, http://www.realbasic.com/ is due Q1 and the standard edition download version is $99.95 I suppose it would be preferable to

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:39 PM 2/13/03 +, William T Goodall wrote: on 10/2/03 10:52 am, Erik Reuter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. Ugh. I don't do a lot under Windows, but one thing I

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-13 Thread William T Goodall
on 10/2/03 10:52 am, Erik Reuter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. Ugh. I don't do a lot under Windows, but one thing I would like to have is an alternative to MS Visual

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-12 Thread G. D. Akin
Okay, you got me. Visual Fortran? George A - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 05:52 AM 2/10/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-12 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:49 PM 2/11/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I have Visual FORTRAN on this system. Now _that_ sounds like an oxymoron. Visual FORTRAN? Or having it on this system? (FWIW, it's a FORTRAN 90 compiler. M$ used to sell it, but doesn't any more AFAIK. It

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-11 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:52 AM 2/10/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. Ugh. I don't do a lot under Windows, but one thing I would like to have is an alternative to MS Visual Basic. Is there a non-MS

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I have Visual FORTRAN on this system. Now _that_ sounds like an oxymoron. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread G. D. Akin
++ and haven't had a change to fiddle with any flavor of Java. I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. George A - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. Ugh. I don't do a lot under Windows, but one thing I would like to have is an alternative to MS Visual Basic. Is there a non-MS programming language, as easy to use with the

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Feb 2003 at 19:35, G. D. Akin wrote: At one time I was a pretty good programmer. And I've taught programming for several Universities and Junior Colleges. But as you get older and move up the management chain, you lose the touch, the drive, and just plain can't keep up with the

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 05:52 10-2-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. Ugh. I don't do a lot under Windows, but one thing I would like to have is an alternative to MS Visual Basic. Is there a non-MS

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:33:03 +0100 At 05:52 10-2-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:07 10-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: One comment about buying it at on-line auctions: make sure that the software on offer comes *with* the manuals. A few years ago I was looking for this kind of stuff, and found that it's often just the software (without the manuals) that's being

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:23:12 +0100 At 10:07 10-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: One comment about buying it at on-line auctions: make sure that the software on offer comes

RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Nick Arnett
) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Reuter Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Julia Thompson
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 10:07 10-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: 3) Check your local university library for programming textbooks. (Unsure if this would be helpful in Korea?) Not useful where I live, anyway. Our local university (Eindhoven University of Technology) has a library

RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Nick wrote: BTW, didja know that VB was invented to be HyperCard for Windows? HyperCard... now, there's a name I haven't heard in a while... Reggie Bautista Those Were *Really* The Days Maru _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-10 Thread Jim Sharkey
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Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-09 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:41 9-2-2003 +0900, George Akin wrote: I just had another thought (I know, note the date and time). What's wrong with the date and time? Your post was sent at 13:41 +0900, so that would be 22:41 hours local time for you, right? Nothing strange about posting around that time of night.

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-09 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:15 9-2-2003 +0900, George Akin wrote: I've read that Delphi is really visual Pascal. Is that true? It's more that just visual Pascal, but when you get to the point where you have to do some actual coding yourself (rather than let Delphi do it for you), you'll find that Pascal is still

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-09 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 05:21 9-2-2003 +, Andy Crystall wrote: As a note, you can't boot NT off a floppy anyway. Not entirely true. NT lets you create emergency disks, which you can use to boot if you can't boot from harddisk anymore. Haven't had any reason to use them so far, though. (Yeah, I know, making

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:19:30 +0900 The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:52:26PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: I seem to recall that she was removing the metal door, but I could be wrong. What about the metal spindle, which is quite thick and sturdy metal? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread G. D. Akin
: Eliminates Floppies Jon Gabriel wrote: From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:19:30 +0900 The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:57 PM 2/8/2003 +0900, you wrote: I have a very good CD-RW, but I don't know enough about burning install disks. Will just copy the floppies onto a single CD, each in its own folder work or one CD per floppy. At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 01:57 PM 2/8/2003 +0900, you wrote: I have a very good CD-RW, but I don't know enough about burning install disks. Will just copy the floppies onto a single CD, each in its own folder work or one CD per floppy. At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index.html Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives Excerpt: AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) -- In what may be the wave of the future, Dell Computer said goodbye to the past on Thursday when it announced it would stop making floppy disk

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Feb 2003 at 23:13, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index. html Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives Excerpt: AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) -- In what may be the wave of the future, Dell Computer said goodbye to the past on

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Reggie Bautista
Sonja wrote: In windows everything should be cool, as long as you got all the 'hide files' functions unchecked in exploder. Heh :-) I've heard it called a lot of things, and I suppose exploder is as good a description as any of what happens to files all too often in Windows... Reggie

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Reggie Bautista
George A. wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread G. D. Akin
: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread G. D. Akin
I've read that Delphi is really visual Pascal. Is that true? George A - Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies George A. wrote: The only

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Feb 2003 at 23:01, Reggie Bautista wrote: George A wrote: I just had another thought (I know, note the date and time). ROM upgrades require a floppy boot disk. How will we upgrade ROM? Would a bootable CD work? Reggie Bautista Seriously, I Really Want To Know Maru As a note,

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread G. D. Akin
, but the Apple was pretty useful in those days. 300baud modem . . . WOW! George A - Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies George A. wrote

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread G. D. Akin
Yeah, that's true. I really haven't had to upgrade a ROM in quite sometime. ROM upgrades by floppy may be OBE. George A - Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple

RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Jon Gabriel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You

RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-08 Thread Jon Gabriel
daddy is. D'Argo: *I'M* YOUR DADDY! ~Farscape~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of G. D. Akin Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies I just had another

Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index.html Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives Excerpt: AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) -- In what may be the wave of the future, Dell Computer said goodbye to the past on Thursday when it announced it would stop making floppy disk drives

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: Austin, Texas-based Dell, the No. 2 personal computer maker, said floppy drives had been overtaken by technologies offering greater storage capacity and would become an option on its Dimension 8250 models. I thought the corporate HQ had moved to Round

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 7 Feb 2003 at 12:38, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index.h tml Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives My floppy drive died about 6 months ago and I've not bothered to replace it. Between network, wireless network, ZIP drive and CD-RW I

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Damon
I thought the corporate HQ had moved to Round Rock. I coulda *sworn* all those nice new office buildings on Louis Henna Blvd. in Round Rock that I drive by a couple of times a week were corporate HQ buildings. They are at RR. They have more than one office. I know; I used to do collections

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:38 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:36:24 +0100 At 12:38 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
a floppy drive as an extra but it really must be a sign that I should start fiddling more with VB now. Sigh! George A - Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 3:46 AM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Damon
At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
and presto! a new removable drive. Neat and fast. George A - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:36 AM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 12:38 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:19:30 +0900 The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:04:47PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: (I still remember her ripping them apart and shredding them to bits when she was done. Ruined a shredder, too.) That wasn't too bright. Didn't she notice that 3.5 floppies have some substantial pieces of metal on them that would

RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Reuter Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:04:47PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
, 2003 6:26 AM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my