Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 12:48 -0700, Ethan Merritt wrote: I don't think that combination makes any sense. Whatever anisotropic is being described by the TLS parameters can also be fully described by the individual anisotropic U^ij terms. So the TLS parameters are entirely redundant, leading

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Ethan, I also reset the temperature factors to 20 at the beginning of each refinement round. The refinement resolution is 75 to 1.8 A, and the space group is C2, if it matters. I am virtually certain that refinement of individual anisotropic U^ij terms cannot be justified at 1.8A.

[ccp4bb] REFMAC and REMARK 3 HYDROGENS HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE RIDING POSITIONS

2011-01-19 Thread Huw Jenkins
I've split this off from the too many clashes thread as it's not directly related. I was under the impression that the default in refmac was to add riding hydrogens but some investigation suggests this may be only appear to be the case. If the default option in the CCP4i GUI for refmac with

[ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Marcus Fislage
Dear all, I might excuse myself for the silly question but it is the first time I solve an x-ray structure. After modell building in coot and running of refmac with restrained refinement I have the problem that the pdb output file contains distances between e.g. ILE Cb and Cg that are so long

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - REFMAC and I think other refinement programs simply read in an atom with occupancy 0.00 and write it out again in exactly the same place.. All refinement contributions for atoms both Xray and geometrical are weighted by the atom occupancy so such an atom will not shift. The assumption

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Marcus The most likely reason is that geometry is a bit loose. You need to tighten it a bit. You can do by decreasing weight using weight matrix option on the interface. You need also check the electron density to make sure that ILE is in electron density. Please let me know if you

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
Marcus, it appears that coot breaks bonds when the distance between atoms exceeds 1.64A pretty much irrespective of the bond type. Two exceptions are, of course, sulfurs in MET/CYS. CB-SG bond in cysteine does not seem to have any cutoff (when you do rotate/translate zone in coot, you can move

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-21 Thread Ian Tickle
I think it would be a lot easier to understand what's going on if you posted your actual scripts. Cheers -- Ian On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:11 PM, zhan...@umbc.edu wrote: Thanks Ian, but I was using the output from 2a for 2b running. Results are still different between 2 and 1. More curious is

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 18:58 -0500, Hailiang Zhang wrote: (1). CTLS=a, CC=b (2). CTLS=a, CC=0; followed by: CTLS=0, CC=b In (2), you are doing two separate runs, with the second not using TLS. If you want to combine TLS and positional refinement, you must have them included in the same refmac

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ian Tickle
I would try it with the latest version (5.6.x) in case there's a bug. That's a very old version you're still using! -- Ian On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Hailiang Zhang zhan...@umbc.edu wrote: Hi, I am using REFMAC 5.2.0019 to run the following script: *** refmac5 hklin a

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ian Tickle
PS one other thought: in your run 2b you are not reading in (as TLSIN) the TLSOUT file produced by run 2a. So run 2b is not starting from the same point that it would have done as in run 1. I. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Hailiang Zhang zhan...@umbc.edu wrote: Hi, I am using REFMAC

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Robbie Joosten
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK PS one other thought: in your run 2b you are not reading in (as TLSIN) the TLSOUT file produced by run 2a. So run 2b is not starting from the same point that it would have done as in run 1. I. On Sun, Dec 19

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Thanks Ian, but I was using the output from 2a for 2b running. Results are still different between 2 and 1. More curious is more second question, the region with identical ADPs still ended up with identical ADPs (although different from before running) after 1, and that's why I also tried 2.

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 13:11 -0500, Hailiang Zhang wrote: Thanks Ian, but I was using the output from 2a for 2b running. It's not enough to use the pdb output - you have to make the proper tls input file for refmac to incorporate the tls correction -- I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at

[ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-19 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi, I am using REFMAC 5.2.0019 to run the following script: *** refmac5 hklin a xyzin b eof REFI TLSC ${CTLS} REFI BREF OVERall NCYC ${CC} ** I thought this script will do CTLS cycles of TLS refinement followed by CC cycles of verall B and geometry refinement. Then I did

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac twin refinement and the output map

2010-12-15 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Yu I cannot say about other programs. refmac uses equation in slides No 13-14 of the presentation: http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/Presentations/ Refmac_Erice_workshop.ppt If your crystal is a perfect twin and you have processed data in true space group then refmac will give map for a

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-12 Thread Christian Roth
Hi , i just tried the extra information because I had a serious overfitting of my model. Roughly 10 % difference for 1.9 Ang. resolution and experimantal phasing. I thought maybe the extra information and the adjustment of the weighting parameters helps me to figure this out. A refinement

[ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Christian Roth
Dear all, I want refine my model using TLS plus phase information from experimental phases. I used the TLSMD server to generate the initial tls parameters and started Refmac After an initial round of TLS refinement Refmac stops and and claims a problem but nevertheless writes at the end Task

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday, October 11, 2010 11:01:10 am Christian Roth wrote: Dear all, I want refine my model using TLS plus phase information from experimental phases. I used the TLSMD server to generate the initial tls parameters and started Refmac I don't know exactly what has gone wrong. Let's

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday, October 11, 2010 01:04:49 pm Christian Roth wrote: Dear Ethan, thanks for your fast answer. The pdb file does the trick. I also did not click the reset B-factor box, which I thought is equivalent to the TLS+Biso pdb. Is that wrong? For what you are doing, it is correct to

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Ethan, So far as I know, there is still no provision in phenix for reading in existing TLS parameters. It always wants to regenerate them for itself. You are right, given suggested optimal selection for TLS groups phenix.refine is capcabale to do the rest as good as it can. There is

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello, following this discussion, I was wondering how much sense it makes to use TLS domains and experimental phases at the same time. I would have thought that TLS domains are better to be used when the model is fairly complete at which state the quality of the experimental phases are probably

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday, October 11, 2010 12:31:13 pm Pavel Afonine wrote: Hi Ethan, So far as I know, there is still no provision in phenix for reading in existing TLS parameters. It always wants to regenerate them for itself. You are right, given suggested optimal selection for TLS groups

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Tim, following this discussion, I was wondering how much sense it makes to use TLS domains and experimental phases at the same time. I guess both things are completely irrelevant. With using experimental phases you bring in more data. And with using TLS you simply use a more adequate

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Ethan, yes, I must be missing something indeed... You are missing the point. What if you want to calculate Fcalc based on an existing model? What if you want to explore application of the _same_ TLS model to different sets of starting coordinates? Yes, if I do need to calculate Fcalc

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello Pavel, thank you for the PDF file. When I search for the word phase starting from page 24, all I find are phenix.phase_and_build and phase_and_build_params.eff on p. 34, and they don't explain the problem. I agree that experimental phases are data, but they might be utterly noisy data and

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Hi I think you have very good point here. Towards the end of refinement (when TLS refinement make more sense since the effects of positional coordinate errors on B values become smaller) phased refinement refinement makes less sense especially if phases are from density modification

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Pete Meyer
following this discussion, I was wondering how much sense it makes to use TLS domains and experimental phases at the same time. My take on it is that if you have low resolution data, then it makes a good deal of sense to use both experimental phases and TLS groups. But this assumes that the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

2010-10-11 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Of course if you have low resolution and good quality of phases then using phases would improve the model (since model errors are going to be large in any case). In this case it makes perfect sense to use TLS and phased refinement simultaneously. It will of course depend on resolution and the

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 and the ccp4i task interface

2010-09-29 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
Is it possible to use refmac 5.6 with the ccp4i Refmac5 task? Can I just copy the 5.6 binary over the 5.5 binary distributed with CCP4? It looks like the new refmac has a number of new keywords which wouldn't be accessible doing this, but would it otherwise be compatible? If so, where does the

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 and the ccp4i task interface

2010-09-29 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Yes. There are two ways: 1) replace $CBIN/refmac5 with refmac5.6 2) on ccp4i click System administration, select configure interface and jus below Give full path name for CCP4 programs to overcome name conflicts click Add a program There will appear two fields. On the right field type refmac5

[ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Lionel Costenaro
Hello, When I run Refmac with the mixed iso/anisotripic B-value option (refi bref MIXED), refmac failed with the error message below. My pdb comes from previous refmac runs with anisotropic B values for all atoms (H generated but not written). I just removed from the pdb the ANISOU lines for all

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Could you please try refmac 5.6. I think we have fixed this problem. It is available from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html You need to take experimental version (it is now fairly stable) Regards Garib On 6 Sep 2010, at 15:01, Lionel Costenaro wrote: Hello, When I run

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Boaz Shaanan
: Monday, September 6, 2010 17:09 Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Hello, When I run Refmac with the mixed iso/anisotripic B-value option (refi bref MIXED), refmac failed with the error message below. My pdb comes from previous refmac runs with anisotropic B

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Lionel Costenaro
Hi Garib, I tried with refmac 5.6 and the same inputs; it worked fine. Thanks, Lionel 2010/9/6 Garib N Murshudov ga...@ysbl.york.ac.uk Could you please try refmac 5.6. I think we have fixed this problem. It is available from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html You need to take

[ccp4bb] Refmac error: Free R label has not been set

2010-05-10 Thread Klaus Sengstack
Hi everybody, I have got a problem concerning refmac5. When try to run refmac following error occurs: Free R label has not been set. I processed my data with xds. Scaling was done by scala. I did this like I always used to do. So what went wrong? Thank you in advance, K

[ccp4bb] Refmac flag to keep intensities, DANO and other columns in mtz output

2010-04-02 Thread hari jayaram
Hi , A trivial procedural question. When running refmac from ccp4i , is there someway that I can have it only add or substitute columns in the output mtz . I am currently running cad after refmac to add back in my DAno column and the anomalous intensities , but was wondering if there is someway I

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac remove restraints on targeted atoms

2010-03-28 Thread Garib Murshudov
Hi Waters are not restrained in any case. There are only antibumping restraints for waters. If you want to remove them then please let me know and I will send you instructions how to do it. If you want to remove (or relax) restraints from ligand you need to edit your dictionary for this

[ccp4bb] Refmac remove restraints on targeted atoms

2010-03-27 Thread John Bruning
Hi, I would like to use Refmac (via ccp4i) to do normal restrained and TLS refinement. But, I would like all restraints to be removed from one ligand and one water only (everything else restrained as usual). How can I do this? I have what I think is a reaction intermediate that I want to be

[ccp4bb] Refmac

2010-03-18 Thread Aaron Oakley
Dear all, I have recently installed CCP4 6.1.3 on a MacBookPro running OSX 10.6.2 and cannot get refmac to work. Can anyone tell me what the Disaster, Disaster! error means. The exclamation marks seem to imply that it is something very bad: Truncated output: CGMAT cycle number =

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac ligand refinement question

2010-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Katarina Moravcevic wrote: Dear all, I am refining a structure of a protein in a complex with phosphorylated ligand (inositol ring). My problem is that after restrained refinement with Refmac, the ring is distorted in geometrically impossible ways. Could anybody advise me on how to deal with

[ccp4bb] Refmac ligand refinement question

2010-02-25 Thread Katarina Moravcevic
Dear all, I am refining a structure of a protein in a complex with phosphorylated ligand (inositol ring). My problem is that after restrained refinement with Refmac, the ring is distorted in geometrically impossible ways. Could anybody advise me on how to deal with this problem? Ideally, I

[ccp4bb] Refmac and links between ligands

2010-02-01 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Dear all I understand that when I use the Refmac keyword make link no Refmac should not apply found links. It keeps finding links between ligands (Na+ and ligand OH) and (I think) refines them as it issues a warning (not INFO), does not say (not be used) for these and the output .pdb file contains

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and links between ligands

2010-02-01 Thread Garib Murshudov
Can you check your input file. It may contain contain link record already regards Garib On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:52, Jan Dohnalek wrote: Dear all I understand that when I use the Refmac keyword make link no Refmac should not apply found links. It keeps finding links between ligands (Na+ and

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and links between ligands

2010-02-01 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Problem solved. One must also switch to the make sugar NO keyword. Otherwise Refmac tries to use the discovered sugar and ion as if it was sugar-peptide bond. Jan Dohnalek On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Jan Dohnalek dohnalek...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all I understand that when I use the

[ccp4bb] refmac resolution limit vs twin refine

2010-01-20 Thread Christian Strube
Hi, I just found out, that this effect just occurs when I push the twin refine button. I have 4 slightly twinned datasets, and so far the twin refine worked very well...but this should not happen, I think. Any explanations or advise? greetings, Christian Hi ccp4bb, I have a big problem

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac resolution limit vs twin refine

2010-01-20 Thread Garib Murshudov
I thought this problem is fixed. Could you please try the version from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html Problem was that when refmac starts twinning analysis it uses generous tolerance and then filters out unlikely twin operators. When large deformation is needed merohedral

[ccp4bb] refmac problem

2010-01-05 Thread Jane Bailey
Hello again I am refine my model using TLS and restrained refinement, and I got below the error message from refmac although the program claim to be successful. There is no output mtz and pdb files. Any suggestions are appreciated! Many thanks! Jane ***TLS refinement cycle***7

[ccp4bb] refmac problem

2010-01-05 Thread Jane Bailey
Hello again I am refine my model using TLS and restrained refinement, and I got below the error message from refmac although the program claim to be successful. There is no output mtz and pdb files. Any suggestions are appreciated! Many thanks! Jane ***TLS refinement cycle***7

[ccp4bb] Refmac refinement

2010-01-04 Thread Feng Guo
Hi, I have a question about the refinement by Refmac program in CCP4 package. I tried both the old version(1.4.4) and the latest version (2.0.5) for restrained refinement, and they gave me different result. For old version, it's 0.192/0.250-- 0.191/0.247, while for the latest version,

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac refinement

2010-01-04 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Feng, just my speculations (of course, the respective authors of the program you use may provide you with a better answer): In terms of refinement results, all pairs of numbers below look the same to me (regardless the refinement program used): 0.192/0.250 0.191/0.247 0.202/0.254

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac refinement

2010-01-04 Thread Garib Murshudov
What are the versions of refmac you are using. Differences (as Pavel mentioned) could be scaling and different scaling parameters. If you would send your log file to me I can try to find out and try to sort out this problem. regards Garib On 4 Jan 2010, at 17:35, Feng Guo wrote: Hi, I

[ccp4bb] REFMAC SIGFP/FOBS cutoff

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
Does anyone know if REFMAC has any SIGFP cutoff? I looked into manual but perhaps missed it. What I mean is abnormal situation where some FOBS are 0 or even negative - is there any intrinsic cutoff or refinement will be done against all the reflections? Thanks, Ed. -- Edwin Pozharski, PhD,

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac

2009-11-19 Thread martyn . winn
/19/2009 3:55 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac Hi everyone: Can someone enlighten me as to the difference between simple scaling and Babinet scaling in Refmac? It seems to me that Babinet scaling is more similar to what is employed in CNS for bulk solvent correction

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac

2009-11-18 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Alexandra, the answers are in these papers and references mentioned in these papers (list below is of course incomplete, but following the references inside of these papers will give you the full picture): # Jiang, J.-S. Brunger, A. T. (1994). J. Mol. Biol. 243, 100-115. Protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac Problem - Permission Denied

2009-09-02 Thread David Jones
The problem is that every directory in lib/data/monomers has to be world writeable in order to use nfsv4 for refmac to run. Something that clearly I don't want to do... And why just the monomers directory is refmac trying to write something, or is it a broken nfslock I can easily fix

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac Problem - Permission Denied

2009-08-31 Thread David Jones
refmac is actually doing when opening the CIF file. Is it trying to write something somewhere else? Thanks David Jones Cheers. --Original Message-- From: David Jones Sender: CCP4 bulletin board To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK ReplyTo: David Jones Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac Problem

[ccp4bb] Refmac Problem - Permission Denied

2009-08-29 Thread David Jones
I would appreciate if any one has any ideas on this I have a strange NFS related problem, if anyone has any ideas... I am running refmac with the ccp4 directories mounted on an nfs share (v4) mounted under /usr/local I get the following error... #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 Last system

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac Problem - Permission Denied

2009-08-29 Thread Roger Rowlett
Does it work with NFS v.3? Cheers. --Original Message-- From: David Jones Sender: CCP4 bulletin board To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK ReplyTo: David Jones Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac Problem - Permission Denied Sent: Aug 29, 2009 3:32 PM I would appreciate if any one has any ideas on this I

[ccp4bb] refmac failed message

2009-07-30 Thread Elad Binshtien
Dear all, I am refining a structure in Refmac at 2.2 A in win OS.  However, Refmac failed and send this message:        forrtl: error (72): floating overflow  Thank you in advance for your any helpful suggestions.  Best, Elad Elad Binshtein Ph.D student Department of Life Science Ben

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac failed message

2009-07-30 Thread Stein, ND (Norman)
: [ccp4bb] refmac failed message Dear all, I am refining a structure in Refmac at 2.2 A in win OS. However, Refmac failed and send this message:forrtl: error (72): floating overflow Thank you in advance for your any helpful suggestions. Best, Elad Elad Binshtein Ph.D student

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.5 gives very low B-factors

2009-07-06 Thread Cale Dakwar
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[ccp4bb] refmac twin operator problems

2009-06-30 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Dear all, I assume that the current versions (from 5.5.0072) take the input line twin operator parameters. However we are getting the Problem get_symm_from_text message whatever we do. What is the correct format here? We do for example twin operator h,-k,-l thanks Jan --

[ccp4bb] refmac autoweight

2009-06-19 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Dear All, In absence to an authoritative answer, I'd like to repost my question. I guess that the overwhelming majority of routine users will use this auto-weight, and it be nice to know what happens there. 1) is there an authoritative description somewhere on the site what refmac precisely

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.0092 not writing pdb/mtz files

2009-06-15 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
Howdy, One of our users was trying to re-run some Refmac jobs originally run with version 5.5.0088 under version 5.5.0092, and he noticed that although the logfile shows Refmac completing successfully, the new version is not actually writing the pdb/mtz output files. He is using linux with CCP4

[ccp4bb] refmac autoweight

2009-06-10 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Dear All, I am experimenting with manual vs auto-weights in refmac, meditating about the (cor)relation between -(free)LL, wa, and the B-factor restraint weights. Questions arising: 1) is there an authoritative description somewhere on the site what refmac precisely does in auto-weight mode?

[ccp4bb] Refmac specific questions

2009-06-05 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
Hi, Sorry to sound stupid, could someone explain what does refmac do if one chooses mixed (bref MIXED) or overall (bref OVER) B factor refinement in the context of TLS refinement? Is it something like: Isotropic for the main chain and/or waters and anisotropic for the side chain? Regards,

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac specific questions

2009-06-05 Thread junfeng liu
Hi Partha, It should be depended on the input model : MIXEd Some atoms with isotropic, some with anisotropic B-values. In this case input file (PDB) defines which atom should be refined isotropicly and which anisotropicly. The atoms with ANISOU card are refined anisotropicly. ta

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and coot library file creation difficulty

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Emsley
James Murphy wrote: I need to model in tetrachloroaurate molecules into a structure, from our heavy atom soak of Potassium tetrachloroaurate. I created a pdb file by using chemdraw and exporting as an *.sdf and opening in pymol and saving as a *.pdb (attached) The method you used to

[ccp4bb] refmac and coot library file creation difficulty

2009-06-02 Thread James Murphy
I need to model in tetrachloroaurate molecules into a structure, from our heavy atom soak of Potassium tetrachloroaurate. I created a pdb file by using chemdraw and exporting as an *.sdf and opening in pymol and saving as a *.pdb (attached) I let refmac create a library file (also

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac Question

2009-05-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It is a bit hard to understand why without looking at the structure.. One reason things get disordered is if the occupancies get misset so they add up to a number 1.0. In that case REFMAC decided this a a clash situation and tries to remedy it .. Could that have happened? I build alternate

[ccp4bb] refmac, twinning, restraints

2009-04-28 Thread James Whittle
Dear all, Can any one comment on setting up restraints for refinement against merohedrally twinned data in Refmac? I find that refinement distorts the geometry (90% allowed in the Ram. plot becomes 60% after 10 cycles). Decreasing the weight term to 0.5 or 0.1 seems not to improve the

[ccp4bb] Refmac Running problem

2009-04-28 Thread Li, Dongyang
Dear sir: I got a very large model with 56 NCS groups working on. So I decided to upgrade our old version of CCP4, which is 4.6.0. The one I installed is the CCP4 4.6.1 executable for Linux without coot and Databases for Balbes. The installation appeared to be successful. I can start ccp4 GUI

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.5 and B-factors in a DNA model

2009-04-20 Thread Carr, SB (Stephen)
Dear ccp4bb, I have noticed I get strange results when I have been attempting to refine a protein-DNA complex in refmac 5.5.0088. I see a large variation in the B-factors of connected atoms for the DNA while the protein atoms all seem to refine to sensible values, for example, before refinement

[ccp4bb] Refmac refinement with two ligands

2009-04-20 Thread aberndt
Dear CCP4 community, I would like to refine a structure with two bound ligands using Refmac. However, the Rafmac GUI allows only one library to be read in. How can I combine or synthesise two .cif/.lib files (originating from the Dundee DRG server) and circumvent this problem? Many thanks in

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac refinement with two ligands

2009-04-20 Thread Joe
Alex, The CCP4i 6.1.1 refmac allows you to combine multiple .cif using Merge LIBINs. Have you tried that? Joe aber...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Dear CCP4 community, I would like to refine a structure with two bound ligands using Refmac. However, the Rafmac GUI allows only one library to be

[ccp4bb] Refmac refinement with two ligands -- Sorted! --THANKS VERY MUCH!!!

2009-04-20 Thread aberndt
merge monomer libraries under refinement does the trick (amongst others like combing the textfiles of the cif files) Thanks, Alex

[ccp4bb] Refmac dictionary problem

2009-04-17 Thread Simon Kolstoe
Dear ccp4bb, I've finally gotten around to updating my ccp4 to version 6.1.1 with the default refmac 5.5.0072 that comes with this from the ccp4 downloads site. I am working on relatively high resolution structures with a number of alternate conformers for certain amino acids which I put

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac dictionary problem

2009-04-17 Thread Simon Kolstoe
Thanks to Robbie Joosten who suggested updating to refmac 5.5.0090 which seems to be happy with alternate conformation again. I thought it was probably worth mentioning on the list that the ccp4 bundled refmac has this bug. Simon On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:07, Simon Kolstoe wrote: Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac not rerunnable

2009-03-24 Thread Pavol Skubak
As far as I know the compatibility has been broken because of adding new features such as intensity based refinement or multiple anomalous scatterers to the GUI Pavol -- Sent from: Leiden ZH Netherlands. This is VERY VERY VERY irritating! Why has it been allowed... Is there any

[ccp4bb] refmac not rerunnable

2009-03-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is VERY VERY VERY irritating! Why has it been allowed... Is there any advantages?? Eleanor#

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac failed at the end of run

2009-03-23 Thread Stein, ND (Norman)
Of JOE CRYSTAL Sent: 20 March 2009 17:33 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac failed at the end of run Hi all, I am using refmac in ccp4i 6.1.1 (installed in windows). It runs well when using automatic weight, but failed when using user-specified weight (0.12 in this case). I

[ccp4bb] Refmac failed at the end of run

2009-03-20 Thread JOE CRYSTAL
Hi all, I am using refmac in ccp4i 6.1.1 (installed in windows). It runs well when using automatic weight, but failed when using user-specified weight (0.12 in this case). I attach the error message as follow. Your help is very much appreciated. .. 18 0.2064 0.2348 0.846

[ccp4bb] refmac

2009-01-26 Thread Phil Evans
I'm trying to run 2 refmac jobs at the same time (6.1.0, with updated refmac 5.5.0070) When I try to submit the second job I get the message There is already a job running which will create a file called tcN1_r15_iso_refmac1.cif You MUST give an alternative file name but I haven't

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac library trouble -

2009-01-14 Thread junfeng liu
Hi Jon, I do not think the lib you got from ligand dep is enough to be used in the refmac. Unfortunately I can not find or make the library from PRODRG2 server because the FE can not be handled by that server right now. So maybe you should make the library yourself : either using sketcher

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac library trouble -

2009-01-13 Thread junfeng liu
The right library should be HEO_mon_lib.cif Good luck! leo Jonathan Marvin Caruthers wrote: All: I'm trying to run Refmac with a heme not present in the default libraries. Unfortunately, I can't get the library sketcher to create a library description file and get the following error

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-22 Thread Stein, ND (Norman)
: 19 December 2008 22:46 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066 The latest version with all the bugfixes will of course appear in CCP4-6.1.1. Until then, the latest binaries and source codes are available on the mentioned webpage. Pavol

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I also see such peaks. I have assumed it is because the default in REFMAC is to use the CuKa SE formfactor, which should be modified at shorter wave lengths. (Solution - copy $C:IBD/atomsf.lib and modify Se c to c(CuKa) - f' for your wavelength.. then assign ATOMSF myversion/atomsf.lib in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-20 Thread Martin Hallberg
Hi, Have you specified the right form factor for Se given the wavelength used in your experiment? anomalous formfactor [Name] [f'] [f''] You can also try the new option where you can do simultaneous SAD phasing and refinement. See: http://tinyurl.com/8on2cr You will have to upgrade from your

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread Pavol Skubak
Hi Jan, the difference between 5.5.0063 and 5.5.0066 is just a few bugfixes. However, unfortunately one of them introduced a new bug to 5.5.0066 which has been fixed in the later versions. Could you please upgrade to the latest version (currently 5.5.0070) from

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread Jan Abendroth
Thanks a lot, Pavol, that indeed did the trick. refmacRwork Rfree RMSDb RMSDan 5.5.0063 0.1682 0.2118 0.0204 1.717 5.5.0066 0.1781 0.2247 0.0205 1.764 5.5.0070 0.1663 0.2102 0.0204 1.719 Cheers Jan On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:21 AM, Pavol Skubak wrote: Hi Jan, the

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread Pavol Skubak
The latest version with all the bugfixes will of course appear in CCP4-6.1.1. Until then, the latest binaries and source codes are available on the mentioned webpage. Pavol

[ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-19 Thread Dima Klenchin
Hello, I am at a loss on what's going on: I am refining SeMET containing structure and using REFMAC 5.2.0005 on Linux and, the same thing happening, using REFMAC 5.5.0070 on Windows. When MET were modelled, there were no difference peaks anywhere. When I changed them all to MSE, the large

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.0068 error

2008-12-10 Thread Victor Lamzin
Dear Michael, ARP/wARP should recognise this refmac version with no problem. Before typing './install.sh' just do 'refmac5 -i' to check that refmac is executed fine and CCP4 environment is setup. If the problem remains please get back to us with details on the ARP/wARP version number and

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.0068 error

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson
Hello,   Thank you for the reply about the refmac 5.5.0066 error. I downloaded refmac 5.5.0068 but there appears to be a problem for ARPwARP to recognise the version.  I reinstalled ARPwARP and the install shell script freezes when it looks for the refmac file.

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5 error with ARPwARP7.0.1

2008-12-07 Thread Pavol Skubak
Hi Michael, thanks for your report. It turned out that 5.5.0066 has a bug causing crashes. Could you please try the latest version (5.5.0068) and let us know in case the problem would not disappear. Pavol

[ccp4bb] refmac newligand noexit?

2008-10-26 Thread Pete Meyer
Hi, I'm attempting to use refmac to re-calculate a map from a published structure. Most of the time, this works with no problems. Occasionally, refmac stops with New ligand has been encountered. Stopping now. From the manual, I'd though that using MAKE NEWLIGAND NOEXIT should prevent this, but

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and average B factors

2008-10-06 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32:00 Engin Ozkan wrote: Hi everyone, I was in the middle of creating a Table 1 for a finished structure and was puzzled by one number. It is the average B factor, especially in the case of TLS-refined structures. In this case, the average reported by

[ccp4bb] refmac and average B factors

2008-10-04 Thread Engin Ozkan
Hi everyone, I was in the middle of creating a Table 1 for a finished structure and was puzzled by one number. It is the average B factor, especially in the case of TLS-refined structures. In this case, the average reported by refmac in the header is the average of the B factors in the pdb

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and average B factors

2008-10-04 Thread Juergen Bosch
Hi Engin, you are correct, you have to run TLSANL and report the corrected B- factor in your table 1. Jürgen On 4 Oct 2008, at 18:32, Engin Ozkan wrote: Hi everyone, I was in the middle of creating a Table 1 for a finished structure and was puzzled by one number. It is the average B

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