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Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 11:32:37 PM, you wrote:
MD> You mean having this message have a direct link to itself in the archives.
MD> Already in the next revision.
>> I know the servers are overworked, but would it be possible to insert
>> a permanent
Where did i say Judaism and Israel arent' related? Nowhere. I said that
Judaism is more than a religion.
I want to point out that very orthodox Judith totally understands my secular
judaism. Isn't that nice!! Makes me warm and fuzzy.
I believe that the secular movement in the us that i grew
Thank you judith.
Thats what i meant!!
- Original Message -
From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> She said Israel provides sanctuary, not
> The Torah isn't true, neither the Jews nor the Muslims have a "claim" on
the
> land, but they are both genetically human and further distinctions are
moot;
> they should live happily together.
Whether the jews or the muslims have a religious claim to the land has no
bearing on whether they cou
Power goes out at home for a few hours and the Hard Drives crashes on the
mail server.
Luckily, I have an interesting setup that held all of the e-mail and I am
just not getting it.
But It is late and I have been working on this for way to long, I'm going
to bed.
With the amount of caffeine that the average programmer drinks, combined
with other 'supplements and constant radiation exposure, I'm sure we're all
chemically imbalanced. :)
> Of course schizophrenics are never alone either as they have plenty of
> imaginary people to talk with. However, scienc
Of course schizophrenics are never alone either as they have plenty of
imaginary people to talk with. However, science has found these people
are just chemically imbalanced.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
> -Original Messa
> "There are two types of people in the world...
>
> People who think they are alone and believe things happen by luck.
>
> And there are those people who believe that there are NO coincidences...
and those people are
> never alone."
So thats why I feel uncomfortable in the bathroom. ;)
_
"There are two types of people in the world...
People who think they are alone and believe things happen by luck.
And there are those people who believe that there are NO coincidences... and those
people are never alone."
(Paraphrased from Signs, by Drew Harris)
Judith
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She said to HER it's all about cultural significance. And that cultural significance
is probably connected to the Holocaust and the idea of Israel as a refuge from
anti-Semitism -- this is our land, where no Jew can be turned away.
You have no idea how strong a force that is in Jewish culture.
> When primitive humans became cognizant of the sun, they wondered how it
> worked and decided there must be a sun god. When a volcano erupted and
> they didn't understand why, they figured it must be a volcano god. When
> a lightning struck, they figured there must be a lightning god...a
She said Israel provides sanctuary, not the Bible.
Judith
- Original Message -
From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> Beth F wrote:
> >
You mean having this message have a direct link to itself in the archives.
Already in the next revision.
> I know the servers are overworked, but would it be possible to insert
> a permanent link to the post in the archives? That would definitely
> make it a lot easier to point people to an answ
I know the servers are overworked, but would it be possible to insert
a permanent link to the post in the archives? That would definitely
make it a lot easier to point people to an answer given in the past
already.
Maybe not now, but in the future it would be really nice.
--
jon
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So what calendar system does an Atheist go by? (Ending sentences in
prepositions is good :)
-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:16 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Existence
I was going to say pretty much the same thing...just
At 02:45 PM 10/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>This goes out to Atheists...
>
>This is not flame bait, just out of curiosity.
>
>(Athiests) have yet to even speculate or even remotely conceive where the
>particles from the big bang might have come from (if you have please let me
>know).
>
>But do you ev
Well, I agree at least with the part about they should all live happily
together. Don't ever see it happening, but hope springs eternal.
> You're thinking like a Zoroastrian Michael. There is at least a third
> choice:
>
> The Torah isn't true, neither the Jews nor the Muslims have a "claim" on
t
Yes, I got weird characters, but strangely they aren't the same as the one
in the questioning email.
Kevin Graeme
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:00 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: [META] weird characters
>
>
You're thinking like a Zoroastrian Michael. There is at least a third
choice:
The Torah isn't true, neither the Jews nor the Muslims have a "claim" on the
land, but they are both genetically human and further distinctions are moot;
they should live happily together.
Kevin Graeme
> -Original
Exceptional comment Maureen!
It brings to mind one of my favorite Oscar Wilde quotes:
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious."
That and my own personal philosophy:
"People are greedy and stupid."
Kevin Graeme
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue
Agreed, economics and/or tribalism.
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:01 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
At 05:20 PM 10/8/02, Michael Ross wrote:
> > This is why I hate religio
Claude have mercy...
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/02 17:53 PM >>>
> test... ahem is this thing on?
Nope
> How many holes in
Did anybody else receive some weird looking glyphs in that email from
me? Specifically, I am referring to:
Original Message
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 23:09:47 +0200
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [E
Judith -- thanks for the muffin. It's getting cold here in Ohio and I
needed that.
Gel -- cranberry irange is the bomb... you must try it if you get a
chance!
Well, the singing went fine for me, the other wanna be divas are the
ones who had the problem. Trying to outsing me... and I was being so
At 04:55 PM 10/8/02, Michael wrote:
>Well, if we hold the Torah to be fiction, then the Jews never forced the
>Canaanites out and Jericho may or may not have ever existed. :)
I never said the Torah was fictional, but you want to go that route, then
that would eliminate the "god told us it was ou
I was going to say pretty much the same thing...just to add that if
one can't comprehend a scientific explanation, how exactly can the
logical jump be made to an omniscient being that created our universe.
The point is, that it's better not to try to rationalize belief to an
Atheist. Just as an A
Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 5:06:12 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> RC> In other words - open source is nice - but we don't
>> _force_ developers
>> RC> to give their code away.
>>
>> RC> Just some rambling thoughts this morning
>>
>> Benefits of freeing the world from Mickey Mouse licensing fees?
At 05:20 PM 10/8/02, Michael Ross wrote:
> > This is why I hate religion's and do not believe a god could exist.
>Religion is what people created way back when, when they needed an excuse to
>hate. And to this day its still a reason to hate. Take religion out of
>this and make them all atheists
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> >
> >>Iran and Saudia Arabia ? get real...
> >
> > Both fund terrorists, both have missile capability and both hate Israel.
I
> > am being real, especially after that Janes report on the Saudi missile
base.
>
> They don't make it very high on my threat list.
If Bin Ladi
My answer to that is:
The universe just is.
Why project an anthropromorphic deity into the equation, it just
fulfills a human need to bring it down to our level?
-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:45 PM
To: CF-Community
Subje
You are aware that your comparing events of 3000 years ago with events of
today. Be that as it may, it falls under a very simple formula:
The Torah is true, God gave the land of Israel to the Jews and that's that
The Torah is false, God didn't give the land or does not exist.
In the first case, th
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>
>>Iran and Saudia Arabia ? get real...
>
> Both fund terrorists, both have missile capability and both hate Israel. I
> am being real, especially after that Janes report on the Saudi missile base.
They don't make it very high on my threat list.
>>France ? oh my...any
Oh my goodness ... it's been an hour and you haven't got your muffin ... but
then my last post hasn't made it through from an hour ago ... so ... hmmm
..
Candace, great that you are back, and next time just find a NJ solution for
those divas ... maybe concrete diving gear ...
* dan hands candace
*** TROLL ALERT ***
Where?
At 04:51 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Pat, I'm kind of wondering who you are and what your background is. Your
>responses on the entire Israel topic seem very extreme and don't seem to fit
>with those of religious Jews (such as myself), non-religious Jews (such as
>
Judith Dinowitz wrote:
> They were allowed to relocate, or to renounce idolatry and accept God.
That sounds a lot like "Accept Communism or go live in Africa" to me. I
wonder how the world would have looked if that had happened in Europe in
the 70-ties.
> Furthermore, they were warned before
I hear ya! Guess everyone else is too involved in the debate..
Sothe trip wasn't worthwhile eh?
Getting ready for devcon yet?
I am bummed erika won't be there...
I missed it last year and we were supposed to room together...
But I guess she did ok anyways
~~
Stephenie
> |-Origi
Those of us with no beliefs don't care. How can the universe be infinite?
How can it not? Do the scientists exploring the origins of the universe
know for certain what happened? No. They believe they do based on their
scientific beliefs. Do the religious minded individuals know for certain
wh
Ahh well put Judith.
I hate when God gets the bad rap for man's sins
Shawn Regan
pacifictechnologysolutions
15530-B Rockfield Blvd. Suite 4
Irvine, CA 92618
949.830.1623
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, Octob
Phoeun Pha wrote:
> This goes out to Atheists...
Not sure if that includes me.
> (Athiests) have yet to even speculate or even remotely conceive where the
> particles from the big bang might have come from (if you have please let me
> know).
Zero point energy of course.
> Do you guys ever th
>>This is not flame bait, just out of curiosity.
yeah right. heh.
>>(Athiests) have yet to even speculate or even remotely conceive
huh? where does that come from? where is that statement grounded? ie you
don't know any athiests so you presume they don't speculate?
>>Think of space as a contain
Yes, they do but the ones on the Jewish side aren't going out of their way
to kill women and children.
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > Yes, the entire basis of Israel is religious and yes its a holy war but
its
> > not about who's right anymore. It's about who wants peace and who wants
to
> > kill
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > Well, the only solution that will make the Arabs happy is the removal of
> > Israel.
>
> I am sure that if I ask my friend (an Arab from Jordania studying here)
> what would make him happy the answer would not be the removal of Israel.
Please do ask him. I think you m
> >. No rewards for the good that you do
> > in life (especially the selfless good you do without anyone knowing). >
>
> Well, of course there ARE rewards for the good that you do, or at least
> there are for me (a non-believer). There is the satisfaction of knowing
> that I helped another human
> Why would that mean that we have no purpose in existence other than to
> eat and die?
Overall purpose, Final goal in existance, spiritual meaning, etc.
> I didn't say that there was no god/spirit etc. I just said what if all
> the tracts and 'truths' etc. that people take as truth is just a fic
When primitive humans became cognizant of the sun, they wondered how it
worked and decided there must be a sun god. When a volcano erupted and
they didn't understand why, they figured it must be a volcano god. When
a lightning struck, they figured there must be a lightning god...and
so o
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> Well, the only solution that will make the Arabs happy is the removal of
> Israel.
I am sure that if I ask my friend (an Arab from Jordania studying here)
what would make him happy the answer would not be the removal of Israel.
Who exactly do you mean if you say Arabs?
In Israel, due to a law from when the state was created, those who learn
full time are exempt from military duty. There are Religious units in the
military and just about everyone in the country, religious or not has
military training.
> Beth F wrote:
> > I am a non-religious fanatic and I assure
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> Yes, the entire basis of Israel is religious and yes its a holy war but its
> not about who's right anymore. It's about who wants peace and who wants to
> kill every Jew.
People that just want to kill the other exist on both sides. If only
they knew how to kill eachothe
Phoeun, I'm almost positive the people who wrote the Koran, the Bible, the
Torrah and any other highly opinionated, improvable religious texts were
sitting there thinking the same thing you are now.
What they found out in doing this was that they could actually take these
beliefs and make money o
Candace! Hi!
*slides her an Orange muffin*
We don't have cranberry-orange over here..never tasted that..
:-\
So the singing stuff went okies?
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Hello cf-community!
I see you all have been busy over here the la
Beth F wrote:
> I am a non-religious fanatic and I assure you that most of israel is NON
> religious. Entirely non-religious folks.
I wonder why it was then decided not to put a separation between
religion and state in the constitution. For instance, isn't it true that
if you attend the right
"before the grace of God we sign this treaty of peace"
> LOL, c'mon now Michael..how many times has the phrase 'Well, if we
> go to war God's going to be pissed' been used.
>
> I'll agree about the amount of wars not declining, but no matter what
> side you're on, 'God is on our side' can be
: This goes out to Atheists...
Well, I used to be agnostic (and still fall in the "miscellaneous" category)
so I'll give it a shot.
: This is not flame bait, just out of curiosity.
right :-)
: (Athiests) have yet to even speculate or even remotely conceive where the
: particles from the big ba
LOL, c'mon now Michael..how many times has the phrase 'Well, if we
go to war God's going to be pissed' been used.
I'll agree about the amount of wars not declining, but no matter what
side you're on, 'God is on our side' can be heard from everyone.
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>Riight.
First... I would start this out by saying im not an Atheist...
Where did God come from?
In my mind, a supernatural power is SOMETHING too...
Atheists have beliefs just like anyone else does, it just happens that they
believe that SOMETHING has always existed...
*Religious* people believe th
> > Israel followed the rules on this and the UN basically said it doesn't
care.
>
> Maybe the UN thinks "on this" are the most important words in that
sentence.
Or that they don't think, which is basically the same thing.
> > Then when Israel tells the UN to stuff it, everyone gets their back up
DIVATUDE!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Beth F, denizen of Anchorage, AK
Owned by Kavik (samoyed) and Toklat (keeshond)
Owner of a Rans Gliss, Bacchetta Giro, Trek R200, Kickbike and Merlin, the
MTB
http://www.bad-dawgs-in-ak.com
A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two-tired.
__
Well, I dont' believe in God, and I still believe Israel has a right to
exist and Israelis have a right to go shopping without being bombed.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:59 AM
Subje
> Phoeun.
> I saw a bumper sticker that said "I don't know if God exists. And neither
> do you"
I of course say that I do know that God exists, but any proof I'd be able to
give to anyone else could be taken as anecdotal evidence. Proof of a
supernatural event or entity is usually something that
Judith Dinowitz wrote:
> There's a very big difference. You're comparing apples and oranges. The Jews in
>Biblical times _were commanded by God_ to conquer the land.
I though Judaïsm knew the concept of free will. It doesn't?
> (I say Arabs above, not Palestinians, because technically there ne
Not really...
The only thing you can think of...is that you don't know enough to
broach a reasonable scientific explanation.
Hence God...
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
This goes out to Atheists...
This is not flame bait, just out of curiosity.
:)
I wike you Beth :)
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Nothing. I don't believe the bible is of any importance and still think
that Israel holds great cultural significance for my people and also
provides jews with a much needed sanctuary from anti-sem
>
>
> RC> In other words - open source is nice - but we don't
> _force_ developers
> RC> to give their code away.
>
> RC> Just some rambling thoughts this morning
>
> Benefits of freeing the world from Mickey Mouse licensing fees? I see
> none :)
> However the court case is really more ab
I believe in God but it's just as incomprehensible to ponder where matter came from as
it is to ponder where God came
from, no? No human being can (at this point) comprehend where the universe came from
or where God came from.
Howie
- Original Message -
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROT
At 03:47 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I think the thing about a holy war is that it an oxymoron. There is no such
>thing.
Depends which god you're worshipping. The followers of Ares/Mars would
strongly disagree I'm sure. As would most all the gods worshipped in South
America before the Spani
Why would that mean that we have no purpose in existence other than to
eat and die?
I didn't say that there was no god/spirit etc. I just said what if all
the tracts and 'truths' etc. that people take as truth is just a fiction
fairy tale...
What would that mean to the current conflict?
-Gel
>. No rewards for the good that you do
> in life (especially the selfless good you do without anyone knowing). >
Well, of course there ARE rewards for the good that you do, or at least
there are for me (a non-believer). There is the satisfaction of knowing
that I helped another human being. And
Beth F wrote:
>
> Nothing. I don't believe the bible is of any importance and still think
> that Israel holds great cultural significance for my people and also
> provides jews with a much needed sanctuary from anti-semitism.
I agree with the much needed part, but not with the providing part. T
Phoeun.
I saw a bumper sticker that said "I don't know if God exists. And neither
do you"
that pretty much sums up my feelings about the topic.
- Original Message -
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:45 AM
Su
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>
>>Does it matter what is obvious to you or me? The problem is that they
>>can't agree. I'm sure that we could work out something what we both
>>consider fair within an hour.
>
> What do you mean can't agree.
The involved parties.
> Israel fol
Well, if we hold the Torah to be fiction, then the Jews never forced the
Canaanites out and Jericho may or may not have ever existed. :)
> At 02:26 PM 10/8/02, Beth wrote:
> > > How is that different from "god told me to strap on bombs and get on
that
> > > bus"?
> > >
> >
> >
> >One is violent
> I'd love to take your word for it Judith, but isn't Israel a Jewish
> Democracy (their word not mine)? Then if you say most of the people are
> non-religious, then where exactly does the democracy part come in?
Democracy? Its a form of government, you can read about it here:
I am unsure what
Jon Hall wrote:
> Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 8:30:58 AM, you wrote:
>
> JvD> Not. Ironically, the current system of delegation of voting rights to
> JvD> some representative is the ultimate form of capitalism in the "Wealth
> JvD> of Nations" meaning.
>
> You are the one who questioned the syst
At 02:26 PM 10/8/02, Beth wrote:
> > How is that different from "god told me to strap on bombs and get on that
> > bus"?
> >
>
>
>One is violent and one isnt'.
Driving the extant tribes out of the land wasn't violent. And the walls of
Jericho just fell softly down?
___
Ask it in google. I found this in google
"space shuttle rotate liftoff"... number 3 or 4 on the list...
At 03:11 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > Answer to the question ;-)
>
> >
>http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/feedback/expert/answer/MCC/sts-106/09_08_21_57_1
>31.html
>
> >> At 08:59 AM 10/8/20
Pat, I'm kind of wondering who you are and what your background is. Your
responses on the entire Israel topic seem very extreme and don't seem to fit
with those of religious Jews (such as myself), non-religious Jews (such as
Beth), or even trolls (like some names I'm not going to mention). :)
___
Well, the original Jews closely resembled my brother, his children and my
own son. Olive skinned, dark hair, etc. This is the basic Semitic, middle
eastern phenotype. As we accept converts, it is possible for anyone to
become a Jew no matter what their skin tone. Personally, I'm one of that
large
Well, then the holy book can't be one owned by Christians or Muslims, both
of whom recognize (at least in their own holy writings) the legitimacy of
the Torah.
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > It means that everything from the existence of the Jews (with all the
> > biological evidence of our conne
> why would lebanon attack Israel ?
Because hizballah has thousands of rockets along the border and is just
waiting for the word to attack en mass.
> Why would Syria attach Israel ?
Because they are still at war with Israel, controls hizballah and wants to
destroy Israel.
> Egypy ? Please..Egy
Hello Nathan,
You need to create a list and append the value of env_var to it each time
you loop the query.
Then set the session variable equal to the list.
I wouldn't call the session variable the same thing as the query either, but
that's my preference.
Hope that helps,
Patrick
> -Origin
Troll --->Jon
:-D
-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:29 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Russia will attack Israel
Troll...
--
jon
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 1:41:42 PM, you wrote:
J> Please explain
>Nothing. I don't believe the bible is of any importance and still think
>that Israel holds great cultural significance for my people and also
>provides jews with a much needed sanctuary from anti-semitism.
What ?.u r kidding i hopeso Israel the promised land for the Jews,
is
Me three. Hey, Beth, we should move to Israel and show them how to live in peace!
Judith
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of
> test... ahem is this thing on?
Nope
> How many holes in a golf ball?
None. On the other hand, the question of how many dimples can be found here:
http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1147.htm
"... 330 to 500 dimples - depending on which company designs the ball "
As you you, the answer is 2 (that I
This is what I never understood. I thought that the "original" Jews closely
resembled Arabs more than they do Caucasians. But how come there are
Caucasian Jews? Did they pick up the religion in Europe?
Are you a Jew if you practice Judaism? Or are you a Jew if you're
genetically a Jew?
Or Bo
Here's your muffin, piping hot! :)
Welcome, Candace -- sorry the trip was a waste but at least you got away.
Judith
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From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: Lotsa talking
None -- unless it's the holy Golf Ball.
Hi Candace -- thanks for the new subject. : )
Judith
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From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: TEST
> test... ahem is this thing on?
No one is going to attack Israel, maybe Saddam after the US levels every house to the
stone age, he will try in desperation to hit Israel with a missle that will land in
the sands somewhere as a good bye gift...
why would lebanon attack Israel ?
Why would Syria attach Israel ?
Egypy ? Please...
Exactly. Once people get to what they believe is their goal, and they don't
have a new one, they flounder.
> Mikey, or "worse", SCIENTOLOGY!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: CF-Commu
They were allowed to relocate, or to renounce idolatry and accept God. They would have
been allowed to stay if they had renounced their idolatry. Furthermore, they were
warned before Israel attacked their cities. You can't say that the Arabs give warning
that they're going to blow up busses or
> My dear Michael,
>
> I couldn't disagree with you more, and I don't believe you really believe
> this. If you follow this logic then you must take everything in the Bible
as
> literal truth. Or is there there some kind of equation you must follow
where it can be 10
> or 20 or 30 percent inventio
Religious: practicing one's religion. Some may prefer the terms observant and
non-observant.
Are all Christians practicing Christians? Do they all go to church?
Some Jews don't follow the laws of the Torah. They were born of a Jewish mother. This
makes them Jewish. They count as part of Israel
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:19 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
What do you mean 'what if' :)
Angel Stewart wrote:
>Hey ...ya know..umm..
>
>What if the
Mikey, or "worse", SCIENTOLOGY!
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From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> Oops, I meant most Israelis are non-religious. Sorr
test... ahem is this thing on?
How many holes in a golf ball?
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Beth F wrote:
>>How is that different from "god told me to strap on bombs and get on that
>>bus"?
>
> One is violent and one isnt'.
You're right. I'm sure the Canaanites all got a very nice relocation bonus.
Jochem
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As do I.
> I find the hatred between the orthodox and secular groups in Israel
> revolting.
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Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> It means that everything from the existence of the Jews (with all the
> biological evidence of our connectedness) to Christianity to Islam itself to
> the constitution of most governments have no basis at all. It means that
> everything that we've built up in civilization
My dear Michael,
I couldn't disagree with you more, and I don't believe you really believe
this.
If you follow this logic then you must take everything in the Bible as
literal truth.
Or is there there some kind of equation you must follow where it can be 10
or 20 or 30 percent
invention and the r
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