Marlon, this is one of the most misunderstood issues in the Torah, but I have no time to respond right now because I'm working on the issue.
Aargh!! Why do I read CF-Community when I'm working on my magazine?
Judith
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> So, I guess if we're going to live by the bible
When I was in high school, we did. The "coloreds" had separate schools to
attend as well. They could only enter the back of a restaurant and eat in the
hot kitchen, paying the same (or higher) prices as the white patrons in the
air-conditioned dining room. A tax was charged to register to vote (
So, I guess if we're going to live by the bible, I guess we can all start
having slaves again!
http://www.carm.org/questions/slavery.htm
Slavery was permitted in the Bible because of sin in the world. It
existed before the Jews were formed as a nation and it existed after Israel
was conque
Thanks Kevin,
It's incredible to me that after all this time people still need to be
reminded that history shows us that separate and equal don't coincide.
> Good golly. Why don't we have "colored" and "whites"
> drinking
> fountains too? They're just as good, right?
> -Kevin
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:25:07 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - The problem is that because of how people like Rush
> use these techniques, they wantonly interweave truth
> and fiction.
>
> Sounds like he's calling him a lier to me.
I'm saying that he interweaves truth and hyp
Good golly. Why don't we have "colored" and "whites" drinking
fountains too? They're just as good, right?
-Kevin
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:21:27 -0400, Angel Stewart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good golly..perhaps you've found a solution to the problem, Bill.
>
> Now to just figure out what happen
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:11:12 -0400, Monique Boea
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I said b4, I cannot change how I look. I will be a black female till I
> die, unless I pull a Michael Jackson, which I won't :)
As will most gay people. Only a small minority of people choose a gay
lifestyle, while a
:) as you say.
I also however am genuinely curious as to the exact biblical source of
this "abomination" belief. I have heard it quite a bit in my travels
through the bible belt and have never seen it substantiated. The above
quote seems to disapprove of men lying with men, but puts it in the
sam
> - Original Message -
> From: Monique Boea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:04:15 -0400
> Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is from the book of Romans and there are lots of
> instances thruout the
> bible
> When have the Hindus intervened in a single atrocity?
> When have the muslims intervened in a single atrocity?
> WHen have the Protestants?
> The Buddhists?
> When have the Anglicans?
> When have the Jehovah's Witnesses intevened?
> What case are you resting?
During the Viet Nam conflict a num
well erm ideally you are fair regardless of your personal opinion. So
let's say I with my current opinions on the fitness of Bush for office
were to write a straight news story, as opposed to an op-ed or a
editorial, on some aspect of the war or the election, I would include
all of the details that
Individual writers may have personal bias, but I think most journalists can
hide that.
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:49 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 9/11 Commission to Cheney - You're still wrong.
ok, just for giggles what news so
The Catholic Church could have exercised its belief in redemption by
erring on the side of re-assigning priests accused of pedophilia to
assignments that did not involve unsupervised contact with children.
Library research for instance.
The Catholic Church could have denounced the massacres in Rwa
Well, here is the problem, because there never was a sale, and the only
proof that one could have been are based on forged documents.
I'm not sure how this proves anything.
Is there a phone message from Saddam asking for a Uranium price list?
_
From: Sam Morris [mail
Nobody ever claimed
Well, you are missing something very important, where is the Uranium, if
they didn't actually buy any, then they really didn't do anything wrong.
Regarding your link to France, do you think it is possible that French
Intelligence manufactured the documents and was working to attempt to catch
Sadda
Fair enough.
Although I still fail to understand how the Catholic church was supposed
to stop these atrocities.
Are you advocating that the Catholic church begin to amass a modern army
to enforce it's will?
-Gel
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The la
Tsk :) It's tough when talking to you :) Weren't you saying that in
your opinion Sen Rockefeller's statements about the intelligence
report were somehow due to this memo or pressures described in this
memo? I though you said something of the kind in a post which also
said nobody ever said Niger sol
If somebody comes out with a decent dual DVI card I might just consider
abandoning my Parhelia for better Doom3/Halflife 2 performance.
Jim Davis
From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:36 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What's coming on Aug 3? or Doom3 gone
Sam, I'll read your materials tomorrow. I smell a session of sentence
diagramming coming on :)
Dana
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:00:41 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ok. I started to say I was confused but really, I
> > don't think i
Gel
I don't think he said majority. Pretty hard to argue the proposition
that there have been some.
But while we are here, I think it matters that these pedophiles have
finally been dealt with. Should have been dealt with sooner, sure, but
can any other religious group say that it has cleaned ho
Sheesh Larry - sorry to hear about Augustus :(
Many hugs from this direction.
>>| From: Larry C. Lyons
>>|
>>| Today we lost another of our ferrets. Augustus was the oldest since
>>| Possum died, we figured he was at least 6 probably older.
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As far as I can tell my sites at CrystalTech.net all have static IPs
"through the entire request" (although I'm not sure what that means
exactly). To quote them:
"CrystalTech provides a static IP address for EACH shared hosting account.
Unlike many hosts, we feel a static IP is essential to a ful
No one is trying to legislate social responsibility - merely commenting
on how gross it is that they are spending $45 million dollars to fly a
flame around the world - I know it's their money to do with as they
please ...
But DAMN! All those struggling amateur athletes ... I just think they
could
I actually suspect that this may be the case, though I'm not sure I
have ever said exactly that. But it doesn't matter.
My point is that the teachings of the Catholic church are not the
final moral authority. Even for me, and I was raised as a traditional
high-Latin-mass kind of Catholic.
So.
B
shhh :) that was just a little side debate about what catholic
teaching actually *was*. As a non-practicing catholic I don't think
they're the final authority either, but mmm I don't think all of the
child abuse that's come to light was homosexual in nature. Was it?
So let's not get distracted :P
You are quite correct about what it says about homosexuality, and
thank you for clarifying that. That's definitely an authoritative
source.
I took a look but it is all more ... byzantine than I remember it.
But wasn't there something about deathbed repentence? It might not get
you to heaven but
Not according to the County Clerk of Sandoval County New Mexico.
Dana
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:32:32 -0400, Monique Boea
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is what marriage is.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:19 PM
>
When have the Hindus intervened in a single atrocity?
When have the muslims intervened in a single atrocity?
WHen have the Protestants?
The Buddhists?
When have the Anglicans?
When have the Jehovah's Witnesses intevened?
What case are you resting?
If ,as you've professed on the list before,
> And the point I'm making for the third time. If this was
> just about what goes on in the bedroom, I think most of us
> would care less too. But it is more then that. The
> interpretation of marriage does discriminate against gay
> couples because they are being denied civil rights that
> stra
well, Kevin is fully capable of speaking for himself, but immediately
above that he says:
The funny thing
> > is that people who think in the polemic style are
> > often unaware of the
> > logical fallacies it can introduce. So they are
> > honest in their
> > beliefs that they are making logical
ok, just for giggles what news sources would YOU consider not
biased? And heheEvery adult I knew as a child who was not a
relative was a journalist, so I am finding this discussion
amusing...AP has a political agenda hehe... but ok, you tell me :)
Dana
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From: S
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040715-121130-6893r.htm
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Then so too the teachings of all religions.
As within them all there are those that would subvert the religion, or
those that go against it's teachings.
Do you have any figures to back your claims about the majority of the
Roman Catholic priesthood being homosexual perverts?
Or is this just a b
Nothing to do with yellowcake.
You asked
>just curious, why would you think he is under a lot
> of pressure to
> make Bush look bad?
Refering to Rockefeller so I mentioned the memo.
Stay with us :)
-sm
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found the guy's website but I was like, wtf d
One thing that I keep noticing in these discussions is that the basic
overall reasoning always comes down to Christianity. We have a separation
of church and state, religious values should not be a basis for laws. If
the only reason against gay marriage is that the bible says so, then that is
the
> My first guess, yeah I Googled it - so what, is it's a
> Congressional minority Democratic Party Memo on how they
> plan to make their opinions known on the way the "Senior
> Administration" handled the intelligence and information
> leading up to the war in Iraq; in case of the
> Congressional M
I found the guy's website but I was like, wtf does this have to do
with yellowcake :)
Thanks
Dana
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From: Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:25:34 -0700
Subject: RE: pop quiz for cf-community
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My first guess, y
And the point I'm making for the third time. If this was just about what goes on in the bedroom, I think most of us would care less too. But it is more then that. The interpretation of marriage does discriminate against gay couples because they are being denied civil rights that straight couples
Actually, I think what has been pointed out is that the marriage laws in many states don't specify the genders of the individuals in the marriage. Presumable, because the original authors just assumed that they would always be applied one man and one woman. So most of the hoopla here is that the
Critter = Vanilla Ice? You be the judge!!! :-)
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:15:00 -0400, Critter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > would you like to get complicated and start spitting out lyrical rhymes you ass clown
>
>
> All right stop, Collaborate and listen
> Ice is back with my brand new invention
--- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Didn't this memo come from a Republican operative
> who hacked into the
> Democratic party's system in the senate?
Or a wastepaper basket :)
How come filegate was a bureaucratic blunder but you
think this was a crime? Is every leak in Washington a
Monique Boea wrote:
>
> As I said b4, I cannot change how I look. I will be a black female till I
> die, unless I pull a Michael Jackson, which I won't :)
>
> I can't hide my race.
Until you chose to disclose it I did not know your race. You didn't even have to hide it.
> A gay man or woman c
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok. I started to say I was confused but really, I
> don't think it's me.
>
> - if the link does not support your point of view
> why cite it?
It tells the story except for the ending.
>If there is a link in some reputable newspaper that
you
> do not
Monique Boea wrote:
> In my view, sexual relations outside of marriage (between a man and a
> women) is wrong.
Is that view based on anything else as religion?
> Do you have ANY religious friends at all?
Many.
> Why is it so surprising that I feel this way?
It isn't.
But do you or do you
Monique Boea wrote:
>
> But if a group of people can change laws (and PLEASE don't compare this
> to the black human rights issue) then what is to stop other groups from
> changing the laws to further change marriage, age limits, sex limits,
> crime, etc. Like a man wanting to marry his daughter.
Monique Boea wrote:
> Does ANYONE on this list get my point about the "fear" of people chaging
> laws to fits their lives...which WILL change society
I don't.
> Like teens challeneging stat. rape laws, drinking laws and the like.
It is an important part of citizenship to question and challenge t
Didn't this memo come from a Republican operative who hacked into the
Democratic party's system in the senate?
Considering the source this memo is not credible. Typical Republican
behavior (Iran-Contra, Watergate, Tower Affair etc, October Surprise
etc).
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:29:59 -0700
Monique Boea wrote:
> I think I asked this b4 but is MARRIAGE legally defined?
It is usually defined as the union between 2 people, without any reference to sex.
Jochem
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Thanks Paul.
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:28:50 -0400, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry for your loss man...
> it is some thing great they lend us while they are with us!
>
>
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I'm remembering this from speeches made by Pope John Paul II and
missives sent to Roman Catholic churches from the Vatican.
I was baptised a Roman Catholic.
What Monique said, as far as the Roman Catholic church goes, is true.
Homosexuality, according to t
why didnt god start with eve?
then to adam
kinda ghey
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At the same time being gay can be a positive selection response. While
your own genes may not get passed along, the genes of your brothers
and sisters in your tribe are more likely to be passed along. There
was a very interesting evolutionary psychology article a couple of
years about such a hypoth
Monique, you are preaching to the choir. What does that have to do with Civil
Law, in a country where the doctrine of separation of church and state is
supposed to be in practice?
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Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
Sorry, sending again..
Bill I think Wendy would have something to say about that.
Besides sweetie you're not my type.
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:07:21 -0400, Bill Wheatley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Say i was gay, i am in love i want to be with Larry Lyons the rest of my life... I die and i was rich i try to le
They do? How?
Monique I researched this issue several years ago, both looking at
current methods and alternatives such as Reparative Therapy. I found
no data in a methodologically adequate article from a peer reviewed
reputable journal that reliably demonstrated that homosexuality could
be change
Are you advocating that your bible's teachings be reduced to the law of the
land?
Any Christian, as well as Muslims and others teach that homosexuality is wrong
and impose strict sanctions. Should the US become a Christian state, like the
Islamic States, where we have the religious police dict
Sorry, I thought everyone knew about it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102275,00.html
here's the memo
http://www.hannity.com/story.php?content=/demmemo
-sm
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's a Hannity memo and why should I care?
>
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sorry for your loss man...
it is some thing great they lend us while they are with us!
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My first guess, yeah I Googled it - so what, is it's a Congressional minority Democratic Party Memo on how they plan to make their opinions known on the way the "Senior Administration" handled the intelligence and information leading up to the war in Iraq; in case of the Congressional Majority trie
- The problem is that because of how people like Rush
use these techniques, they wantonly interweave truth
and fiction.
Sounds like he's calling him a lier to me.
-sm
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, Kevin isn't saying Rush is lying.. he is
> saying he believes
> what he
thanks Dana.
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:01:20 -0600, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry
>
> Sorry to hear your sad news
>
> Dana
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:50:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: More sad news
> T
Deanna Schneider wrote:
>
> So, here's the question - if a newbie emails you directly - do you
> answer? For how long?
Time permitting, I usually do if the subject interests me and the newbie shows some clue. Telling why you can't ask on a mailinglist helps.
Jochem
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Yes it has, 4 in one year, and two of tehm were more or less out of
the blue. The younger ones shouldn't be too much of a problem. They're
quite healthy. Too healthy at times.
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:21:09 -0500, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Damn. It's been a bad year for you. O
thanks Phill.
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:20:44 -0500, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry to hear that Larry. I had to put my cat down a year ago. She was
> so sick and I felt far to selfish to let her linger in pain. I guess
> I'm trying to say that I know the feeling.
>
> Phillip B.
>
Yes a few. I'm trying to remember where you're located. But one
hightly recommended breeder is Vicky McKimmie in Maryland, her website
is http://www.mindspring.com/~jbferret/. Currently she has some kits
and some adults available.
larry
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:13:44 -0400, Bill Wheatley
<[EMAIL PR
A little story about the day I learned about homosexuality.
I was 10 years old, July 1976. It was on a 3 day camping trip to Cape Cod with the Webelos (between cub scouts and boy scouts). On Saturday, we went to Provincetown, Mass at the tip of the Cape, where my father had rented a sailboat for t
it's hardly expensive :)
Dana
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From: Monique Boea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:05:45 -0400
Subject: RE: Stremaing Audio
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Live365 is very expensive tho.
Streamer is free and has no affect on bandwidth.
-Origina
I had the same reaction the first time I saw that...
I assume that they are trying to be "first in the door" and when you have
no competitors, you can charge more. I suspect that over time the price
will come down.
I'll also add that the BlueDragon Server (the free version) cannot be
used
What's a Hannity memo and why should I care?
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> Generally, unless I invite the person to take it off-list,
> I don't
> respond to questions not posted to the list. I used to,
> but then one
> person (who I won't name because I don't remember who he
> is) took
> advantage of that, then got pissy when I told him that I
> needed to get
> back to
Actually, Kevin isn't saying Rush is lying.. he is saying he believes
what he says, But that he personally (Kevin) does not consider Rush a
good authority in a reasonable discussion.
Dana
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:23:28 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PR
hehe I think everyone has a right to be polemical and extreme. And I
have a right to laugh and walk away :)
Dana
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opps, my mistake. I missed the beginning of the quote.
>
According to Catholic teachings, being a homosexual, in and of itself, is considered a "condition" or a personal cross to bear if you would and is not a sin. Indulging in homosexual sex is a mortal sin. Catholic teachings are that homosexuals should follow a vow of chastity.
Also, acts of contri
Maybe you are right about Catholic teaching then. I seem to remember
something to the contrary recently, but I could be wrong. As I said, I
don't really follow gay rights, and I don't feel like researching the
matter. Let's say you are right.
Whether Catholic teaching is the best guide in this iss
You were attempting to use a particular analogy to support your view.
Your analogy does not exactly support the point you were trying to make.
That was what I responded to.
Also I do not understand this statement, it seems contradictory:
"But yes i agree they would die out but maybe this is
Oh i understand where the religous right comes from and i KNOW why they are like that, and why they think they are better at times.
Now if the people on the right could step back and say ok i see where you are coming from i still don't like it though then thats fine.
Now allowing civil unions for
it's called an act of contrition. I am not sure it works for mortal
sins though... but then I am not even sure homosexuality is considered
a sin, since it's homosexuality we are discussiong.
Dana
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From: Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:24:56
I'm remembering this from speeches made by Pope John Paul II and
missives sent to Roman Catholic churches from the Vatican.
I was baptised a Roman Catholic.
What Monique said, as far as the Roman Catholic church goes, is true.
Homosexuality, according to the Roman Catholic church, is not righ
ok. I started to say I was confused but really, I don't think it's me.
- if the link does not support your point of view why cite it? If
there is a link in some reputable newspaper that you do not consider
biased then please feel free to provide it
- I am totally unclear as to how the cited story
Its easy, if a couple gets married/civil union they are the same as married in the eyes of the law, and we can use another word to keep the christian right happy :>
First we can pass an amendment to not allow gay couples the same rights. What about next when the christian right takes a stand agani
We're not talking about gay adoption or procreation :> But yes i agree they would die out but maybe this is part of gods plan to let the gays exist? lol
We're talking about the right of 2 people to have equal rights.
William Wheatley
Coldfusion Guru
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
Exactly and gays need a right to be able to share rights of a couple. :>
Glad you are starting to see that its not about religion in the least.
William Wheatley
Coldfusion Guru
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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thank you.
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From: Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:15:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You know - people can argue pro/con on this subject all day but I
think most are miss
Sure but on your death bed if you (i forget the wording its been awhiel since i've been to church) if you ask forgiveness and accept jesus as your lord and savior then boom all your mistakes are whipped away. Sure i know there are 1001 different views on it in the bible let alone the major organize
Good golly..perhaps you've found a solution to the problem, Bill.
Now to just figure out what happens with insurance, mortgages, health
care etc. as these issues are aside and apart from any Religious or
moral aspects.
-Gel
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From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
Sure they can try and stop and all but they are only fighting what their genetics gave them.
Just like a person who is going to have lifelong fight with being fat. If they choose not to be gay good for them it doesn't mean it's not genetically decided.
William Wheatley
Coldfusion Guru
Do no
uh was this supposed to show it was an abomination or something???
Granted it says something about shameless acts but this is in the same
breath as disobeying your parents and gossiping. If everyone in this
list deserves to die, well hey, we wont need to worry about
overpopulation for a while :
Damn. It's been a bad year for you. Or at least for your ferrets.
-Kevin
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:04:58 -0400, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Today we lost another of our ferrets.
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Sorry to hear that Larry. I had to put my cat down a year ago. She was
so sick and I felt far to selfish to let her linger in pain. I guess
I'm trying to say that I know the feeling.
Phillip B.
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From: Monique Boea
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:06 PM
Subject: RE:
But thats not what this is about. It's about giving gays equal rights. They can be quietly gay and not bug you but they can also be married. Or have a civil union
they just want the right to pay their taxes together and the right to be able to get health insurance together etc etc.
I mean some ga
Then why try to legitimise it?
-Gel
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From: Jerry Johnson
But, you don't need a "right" to be female.
But, you don't need a "right" to be Christian.
But, you don't need a "right" to be Hispanic.
But, you don't need a "right" to be short.
But, you don't need a "righ
Sorry, it was joke. I love to point out the bias of
the NY Times.
They ended the story by stating that the documents are
now known to be forgeries.
They want you to think it's all about those docs but
it isn't.
They were decoys. The original facts are still there.
French and British intelligence s
Gel,
Funny, I don't remember that coming up in my catechism. I did not
realize you were Catholic, but I suppose it is possible you know more
about Catholic teaching than I do(?) are you remembering this from
your childhood, or what?
Dana
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From: Angel Stewart <[E
You know - people can argue pro/con on this subject all day but I think most are missing the point. It really boils down to whether it is a good or bad idea to legislate morality in the constitution and, obviously, it is not. You can's legislate morality in the constitution as it would be complet
Yes. Good thing some right thinking logical people decided to buck the laws and "the way things were done" and realize that equal rights just make sense.
Equal rights. The same for everyone. What a great concept.
Jerry Johnson
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I needed a right to be a h
got any good contacts ona good farm to get some ferrets from?
William Wheatley
Coldfusion Guru
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
- Original Message -
From: Larry C. Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 200
But if its outside what is the real world isn't that basically lieing to him? Either he's going to think you lied to him or that you didn't have a clue what life was like. Ask him whathe thinks, kids are the most none hating bunch we have in the world until they are taught to hate and discriminate.
Sorry, sending again...
hopefully w/o the HTML junk
1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of people39 who suppress the truth by their40
unrighteousness,41 1:19 because what can be known about God is plain to
them,42 because God has made it
Several people posted links at the time is all I am saying. Just
pointing out the futility of arguing with a closed mind. But hey, I
have been know to indulge.
Here in New Mexico we had a county clerk conclude that the law did not
preclude same-sex marriage and roughly 150 couples married in the n
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