> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: evolution and homosexuality
>
> There is a reason monogamy and monotony have the same root word. ;->
>
> Marriage is totally a social convention.
> touch o. pause for a half a sec.
> pq at same time. hold for a sec. let go and pause.
> wo at the same time. hold for a tick, let go and pause.
> pq, and repeat.
WOW! I got to 9.1
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> -Original Message-
> From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:59 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: the list
>
> What about gay couples who adopt children?
>
> David Churvis
They get the exact same "tax breaks" that are being argued as a ben
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:56 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: the list
>
> Michael Grant wrote:
> > ...
>
> Pinhead.
>
> I'll let others with more time to point out some of the many short
> comings in you
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:47 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: the list
>
> Keeping that in mind, let's look at the root of marriage. Marriages (in
> the traditional sense) get certain tax breaks and legal
They're spreading it around. I only have it on one of my accounts so far.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Rob Parkhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> damn google for only rolling it out to selected users. I mean I have the
> themes for iGoogle, but Gmail is so boring, a theme would be nice... ah
damn google for only rolling it out to selected users. I mean I have the
themes for iGoogle, but Gmail is so boring, a theme would be nice... ah well
I guess i shall wait patiently
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did the beach theme and it asked me where
I did the beach theme and it asked me where I lived. So I put in the
city. Earlier today I had sunshine over the ocean, now the sun is
setting. This is very cool.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> man.. i just changed my gmail theme to mountains. and am l
6.4 here, but it was a painful run, by the looks of it.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Rob Parkhill wrote:
> that is sooo tough.. 2.5 meters for me, but I think i spent more times on
> my head
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that is sooo tough.. 2.5 meters for me, but I think i spent more times on
my head
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> touch o. pause for a half a sec.
> pq at same time. hold for a sec. let go and pause.
> wo at the same time. hold for a tick, let go and p
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Vivec wrote:
>
>> That's a lot of what-ifs.
>> What does the research say about the benefits that gays have over
>> heterosexuals?
>> As far as I know, there aren't any.
>>
>
> Gay men don't have to put the t
touch o. pause for a half a sec.
pq at same time. hold for a sec. let go and pause.
wo at the same time. hold for a tick, let go and pause.
pq, and repeat.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:01 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > 5.3 m, but thats about it
>
> HOW?!?!?
>
> I got 2m and th
http://clipotech.net/post/60569689/gmail-themes-fans-have-been-building-unofficial
That dude is a monster with the social networking info... lots of
interesting tweets.
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Tony wrote:
> must be
> 5.3 m, but thats about it
HOW?!?!?
I got 2m and that was it!
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:05 PM, David Churvis wrote:
> When there is overpopulation in a given area, reducing the amount of
> breeding going on is extremely beneficial.
Happens all the time in "nature" (don't get me started on "natural"
and whatnot!).
Life is all about teaming up (and staying in
There is a reason monogamy and monotony have the same root word. ;->
Marriage is totally a social convention. It has nothing to with biology.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to extend this argumentwho actually thinks marriage is
> biologically
to extend this argumentwho actually thinks marriage is
biologically normal? There are very few monogamous species, mammals
in particular, in the animal kingdom. With the amount of cheating and
the divorce rate in our species, I would surmise that we're not one of
them.
On Nov 19,
Dead horse man. I was just continuing on what you said, but adding a touch
of realism.
Victory can be achieved here and we are seeing progress here every day.
Each day we go on a raid and capture a bad guy, and the Iraqi Army is the
one leading the way, that is progress.
When we can walk out of ou
5.3 m, but thats about it
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:27 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Someone tell me how the H-E-Double Hockeysticks you make this game work:
>
> http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
Someone tell me how the H-E-Double Hockeysticks you make this game work:
http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html
Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
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Did you read that statement to mean they already have the cash?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No money has been given to American Express.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> such as in the case of American Express.
>
>
I heard a report recently about transgenderism, and a prevailing theory
points to hormonal effects on fetal brain development. I suspect that
something similar is at work with homosexuals.
If true, it would mean that homosexuals could be 'born gay' with or without
genetic causation.
Btw, the fact
must be a slow rollout type thing, cause i aint got it yet...
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> settings/themes
>
>
>
~
No money has been given to American Express.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> such as in the case of American Express.
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There are no known genetic markers for homosexuality. Homosexuality
seems likely to have some genetic components and some social
components. The genetic portion that been being investigated so far
centers around the endocrine system and fetal exposure to androgen.
The endocrine system is enormously
i have a first run 60 gbno problems at all in 2 to 3 years.
get a remote. and resistance 2 and littleBigPlanet..
call in sick for 2 weeks.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Matthew Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> I am going to take advantage of microsoft's 25% buy it now rebate on ebay
> and fin
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's a lot of what-ifs.
> What does the research say about the benefits that gays have over
> heterosexuals?
> As far as I know, there aren't any.
>
Gay men don't have to put the toilet seat down when they're done peeing at
hom
I am going to take advantage of microsoft's 25% buy it now rebate on ebay and
finally pick up a playstation 3. Any tips on what I should look for?
I would prefer to buy new and from someone with tons of positive feedback, and
I'm hoping to get a game, movie, or hdmi cable bundled in the deal.
That's a lot of what-ifs.
What does the research say about the benefits that gays have over heterosexuals?
As far as I know, there aren't any.
2008/11/19 Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> But let us say that the homosexual allele is linked to another trait,
> say efficient metabolism.
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What benefit does anyone gain from posting on an opinion based forum, other
than a mild reprieve from the work-a-day world.
So by posting what benefit did you gain Maureen? The former or the latter?
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008
>
> Read your link. nothing indicates that any money will be going to the
> Automakers by any interpretation of legislation.
The bailed-out banks c
> Shall I make a cf-science podcast of that? :)
+1!
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will
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> Like gg say's, maybe you should read up on it.
I did.
and my statements stand.
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM, GG's mini-me wrote:
>> It did/does mean only banking. that's what Obama's change to the TARP
>> legislation was about expanding the *What* that could be bought beyond
>> toxic a
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008
Read your link. nothing indicates that any money will be going to the
Automakers by any interpretation of legislation.
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122616278065311225.html
> House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California
Like gg say's, maybe you should read up on it.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM, GG's mini-me wrote:
> It did/does mean only banking. that's what Obama's change to the TARP
> legislation was about expanding the *What* that could be bought beyond
> toxic assets in the financial community. It had no
Maybe you should read before you toss out names. You know I don't
enjoy proving you an idiot, but you always force my hand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, commonly referred to
as a bailout of the U.S. fin
oh jeez :)
Judah McAuley wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> and if you want to sit at your desk and giggle, read this again, but
>> imagine Cartman from South park reciting it.
>>
>
> Shall I make a cf-science podcast of that? :)
>
>
And lots more fun ;->
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In short, biology and evolution don't work the way you think they
> do...and bisexual people still have the best of all worlds :)
>
~~~
I fail to see the point of espousing an opinion if you don't gain
benefit from it, even if the only benefit is the social attention you
receive from stating said opinion, or the warm fuzzies you get from
feeling superior to those who hold divergent opinions.
Unless, of course, you're playing devil
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and if you want to sit at your desk and giggle, read this again, but
> imagine Cartman from South park reciting it.
Shall I make a cf-science podcast of that? :)
~~~
Thanks David. Evolution is a difficult subject to explain in part
because it seems like it ought to be obvious because it is so close to
us. The temptation to impose non-scientific ideals on it, like social
darwinism, is understandable because it deals with humans in a way
that, say, particle physi
and if you want to sit at your desk and giggle, read this again, but
imagine Cartman from South park reciting it.
Judah McAuley wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It's certainly not genetically defective. In fact homosexualit
Actually my point is that it doesn't necessarily *matter* from an
evolutionary perspective if they can reproduce. Having a kid is
important in terms of heredity, but it isn't the end-all be-all of
evolution.
Now you can argue that marriage has a benefit from a social
perspective and how heterosexu
Judah,
This is one of the best descriptions of natural selection I've ever heard.
It's hard to reduce such a complex principle into a very few words, which is
I think why curt phrases like "survival of the fittest" cause more harm than
good.
David Churvis
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From: Judah M
No... I'm simply giving an example where homosexual behavior can have a
beneficial effect on a population. Uprooting gay people from where they
want to be and forcing them to go elsewhere would be downright cruel and,
well... Malthusian.
David Churvis
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From: Michael Gra
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's certainly not genetically defective. In fact homosexuality appears in
> many species, not just humans. However mother nature (for lack of a better
> term) has just made it so that it can't be (naturally
Deviates slightly from the point I was making which is that biologically human
homosexuals can't reproduce. But very insightful nonetheless.
So to summarize you can have a gay marriage as long as your sister has kids or
you're a termite.
Good news is I've never put as much thought into my opin
How do you change your gmail theme? I can change my iGoogle theme, but not
my gmail.
and I have thought for some time now that google would rule the world...
actually here is a movie of how google takes over the world...
http://urgo.org/flash/ols-master.html
Rob
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM,
I'm trying not to spend much time writing to cf-community while I
finish this project, but misconceptions on evolution tend to draw me
out anyway...
A common misconception is that homosexuality is evolutionarily
maladaptive. That misconception tends to come from a simplistic view
of evolution. One
So to have an opinion you have to gain some benefit from it?
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Then what good is it?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's an opinion. It's not meant to gain me any benefit.
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The truth is that the Gay marriage issue is more about economics than
morality. Ranting about morality is just the smoke screen., although
the government propaganda machine has no qualms about exploiting those
who would enforce their mortality on the rest of us.
Figure what the cost would be to e
It's an opinion. It's not meant to gain me any benefit.
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From: Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:27:38 -0500
To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: the list
> What benefit do you derive from holding onto an opinion that you admit
> Maureen wrote:
> You're assuming intelligence not in evidence.
>
The real question is should be constrain personal liberty based on
arbitrary ideas of morality?
Bible says that you shouldn't have pictures on your walls. Should we
legally constrain people's liberty to hang pictures of themselve
+1
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What benefit do you derive from holding onto an opinion that you admit
> is full of holes.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You should go hat shopping with me... it's
> impossible.
>
> I certainly agree that my opinion has many many holes in it. Luckily I'm
> just a guy posting his opinion and not a l
Well if they can be either gender then they are biologically "proper" n'est pas?
Ever think to yourself... "why did he put quotes around the word proper." It
was for lack of a better word. Substitute the word "proper" for viable then.
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From: "Gruss Gott" [EMAIL PROTECT
What benefit do you derive from holding onto an opinion that you admit
is full of holes.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You should go hat shopping with me... it's
> impossible.
>
> I certainly agree that my o
man.. i just changed my gmail theme to mountains. and am loving it!
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> When it was convenient he said Obama added the ability to buy any
> asset. Now he's dancing around trying to claim it meant only banking.
It did/does mean only banking. that's what Obama's change to the TARP
legislation was about expanding the *What* that could be bought beyond
toxic assets in
> Sam wrote:
> When it was convenient he said Obama added the ability to buy any
> asset. Now he's dancing around trying to claim it meant only banking.
> I guess insurance too. But we know Obama and the Dems are trying to
> move some to the Auto industry. Sounds like dancing to me.
>
Bush soun
It's certainly not genetically defective. In fact homosexuality appears in many
species, not just humans. However mother nature (for lack of a better term) has
just made it so that it can't be (naturally) genetically passed on. It's the
exception to the rule.
-Original message-
From: Sc
> Scott wrote:
> I could certainly see the evolutionary benefit in ending procreation in
> defective gene lines,
What about organisms who can be either gender or who bud? (not weegs,
spontaneously grow another creature. I said not weegs)
To claim that anything is biologically proper is to essen
So if I get this right you're suggesting we send all gay couples to
overpopulated areas?
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From: "David Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:16:30 -0500
To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: the list
> Dude. It's biology; nothing
No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You should go hat shopping with me... it's
impossible.
I certainly agree that my opinion has many many holes in it. Luckily I'm just a
guy posting his opinion and not a lawmaker. I wouldn't even vote on this issue
if a ballot was placed in front of me. I still mai
You're assuming intelligence not in evidence.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How seemingly intelligent people do not/cannot view Prop 8 as discrimination
> is beyond me.
>
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Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote:
> Sure, by using technology to artificially inseminate. Show me one case of a
> gay couple having sex with each and getting pregnant as a result.
All children are born solely from intercourse between a 'married' couple?
~~~
I could certainly see the evolutionary benefit in ending procreation in
defective gene lines, as part of natural selection
(and no, before anyone even asks, I'm not implying that homosexuality is
in any way genetically defective)
Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote:
> "That there very well may have
Dude. It's biology; nothing sinister or Malthusian about it. If there are
too many creatures in a given area and not enough food, lots will die. If
there are less creatures being created, less will die. I'm not taking away
their Christmas or anything...
David Churvis
-Original Message
When it was convenient he said Obama added the ability to buy any
asset. Now he's dancing around trying to claim it meant only banking.
I guess insurance too. But we know Obama and the Dems are trying to
move some to the Auto industry. Sounds like dancing to me.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote:
> "That there very well may have been evolutionary benefits to homosexuality"
>
> Explain the benefits to not being able to continue a species?
That continuing the species takes a lot more then just every member
producing copies. That there very well may have bee
Oh, sorry, missed thatmy apologies Ian.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> in spite of the fact that Ian disagrees with Michael, i think the "pinhead"
> comment specifically was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, since Michael closed his
> post with "ok, now e
uh huh.
THAT's what it's really about isn't it...
mmm hmm...
I see.It's a sort of closet thing going on isn't it.
yup.
Well this isn't THAT KIND OF LIST buddy!
2008/11/19 Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Show me one case of a gay couple having sex with each
> Sure, by using technology to artificially inseminate. Show me one
> case of a gay couple having sex with each and getting pregnant
> as a result.
Not a man and not pregnant by normal means, but there's always Thomas Beatie
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/13/gayrights-usa-thomas-beatie-
Bingo...
We have dogs (and cats, and ferrets) does that count?
David Churvis wrote:
> Or couples (and there are a lot of them) who just don't want children?
>
> David Churvis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52
Michael Grant wrote:
> ...
Pinhead.
I'll let others with more time to point out some of the many short
comings in your arguments. That there very well may have been
evolutionary benefits to homosexuality. That there are more ways to be
productive to society then having children. Etc.
~
> When there is overpopulation in a given area, reducing the amount of
> breeding going on is extremely beneficial.
Sounds rather Malthusian of you, like Scrooge, "If they would rather
die they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population".
~~~
in spite of the fact that Ian disagrees with Michael, i think the "pinhead"
comment specifically was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, since Michael closed his
post with "ok, now everyone can attack me and call me a pinhead" :)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Come o
Also, it's easy to prove that marriage benefits have nothing to do with
having children because there are separate tax benefits for every child you
have. So... yeah.
David Churvis
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:56 PM
Sure, by using technology to artificially inseminate. Show me one case of a gay
couple having sex with each and getting pregnant as a result.
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From: Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:00:03 -0500
To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Subje
When there is overpopulation in a given area, reducing the amount of
breeding going on is extremely beneficial.
David Churvis
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From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:59 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: the list
"
haha, ok, I accept this answer. Plus the earth would be a whole lot better for
it.
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> Mike wrote:
> If we draw our conclusions of what's "right" and what's "wrong" from
> biology... the only proper "union"
"proper"?
So your whole point seems to be the only reason to couple is to pro-create.
By that logic why create benefits for anyone that procreates whether
they're married or
Come on, be respectful of his opinion..
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Grant wrote:
> > ...
>
> Pinhead.
>
> I'll let others with more time to point out some of the many short
> comings in your arguments. That there very well may have been
>
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:58 PM, David Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about gay couples who adopt children?
>
> David Churvis
>
>
Ooh, i've heard religious talking heads argue that this is even worse. That
having to explain to their friends why they have two mommies or two daddies,
is
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "That there very well may have been evolutionary benefits to homosexuality"
>
> Explain the benefits to not being able to continue a species?
>
Have you ever watched Jerry Springer? Maybe the time has come
> So, what about infertile couples, or people who marry after the age of 50?
Or couples that simply choose not to have children (Mr. and Mrs. Gruss
have a career and an Audi for their kids, but are married, should they
be penalized because they're not crapping out a few yard-apes?).
Just because
How seemingly intelligent people do not/cannot view Prop 8 as discrimination
is beyond me.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Michael Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well after reading this post I just had to say something. And I'm sure that
> my comments are going to lead to gaining a few enem
Michael Grant wrote:
> As a rule gay couples can't procreate.
The can't? There seem to an awful lot of gay persons who seem to have
managed it somehow!
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What about gay couples who adopt children?
David Churvis
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From: Michael Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: the list
Well after reading this post I just had to say something. And I'm sure that
my comm
"That there very well may have been evolutionary benefits to homosexuality"
Explain the benefits to not being able to continue a species?
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From: Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:56:04 -0500
To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Subject:
Second try, this time with editing...
Google may eventually own the world, but they do come out with cool
stuff.
http://images.google.com/hosted/life
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>So, what about infertile couples, or people who marry after the age of 50?
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>(so far, the argument does not hold much water)
I'm not saying "unless you have a chance at having children you shouldn't be
allowed to marry." That's getting way too specific. As a rule gay couples can't
procreate. A
Michael Grant wrote:
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Pinhead.
I'll let others with more time to point out some of the many short
comings in your arguments. That there very well may have been
evolutionary benefits to homosexuality. That there are more ways to be
productive to society then having children. Etc.
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Or couples (and there are a lot of them) who just don't want children?
David Churvis
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So, what about infertile couples, or people who marry a
So, what about infertile couples, or people who marry after the age of 50?
(so far, the argument does not hold much water)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Michael Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well after reading this post I just had to say something. And I'm sure that
> my comments are goi
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Well after reading this post I just had to say something. And I'm sure that my
comments are going to lead to gaining a few enemies.
Let me preface my comments by saying I have absolutely no problem with two
consenting adults choosing to do whatever they like. I have about a half dozen
gay frien
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