Re: yet another quake in socal

2010-07-08 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: i was sleeping off a bad cold this afternoon when naomi woke me up saying there was a quake shaking the house. i felt the bed shaking and went back to sleep. I didn't feel it. I think I was walking across the street when

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Sam
I'm not even sure what country you're from but I think I took a shit in it :P On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: I am more concerned with my own country. However you probably couldn't even find it on a map so I'll have to stick with musing about your broke ass

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Medic
Indeed. 2012 must be true since this clearly indicates the end of days. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: a nice touch, indeed. a government that's in touch with its citizens, imagine that. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com

Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
We are brining on a new employee internally to double the size of our IT department. We're having to provide proof to our HR department (which is our primary business) that this person should be salary instead of hourly. Their angle is that because the new employee is coming in at an entry

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'm making the assumption that hourly means contract rather than full time hire. If so, then the programmer will be responsible for managing their timesheet, billing, taxes, etc. This will greatly lower their effectiveness. The company should be handling all of these non-work related tasks,

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Medic
Stay classy Sam. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even sure what country you're from but I think I took a shit in it :P On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: I am more concerned with my own country. However you probably

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/8/2010 6:51 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: I'm making the assumption that hourly means contract rather than full time hire. That might be a big assumption. I've worked for 10 years now in this technology job of mine and that has broken down largely as 3 months as a full time salaried

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Sam
Just following your lead. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Stay classy Sam. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
 On 7/8/2010 6:51 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: I'm making the assumption that hourly means contract rather than full time hire. That might be a big assumption. It is - the new hire is a full time employee, on-site with standard company benefits and requirements. Internally the decision is

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Scott Raley
I've done it both ways and I seem to get screwed on salary for the tech people because they run into something they can't handle so they sit and wait for someone to come help them now I have two people working the same job so the other can learn. Or the other person goees home early but they are

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Erika L. Rich
Here's a few different takes on it. Well worth the time to read these links and do your due diligence. http://barnson.org/node/250 Good read to make sure issues like overtime/benefits/etc are clear cut: http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary/2007/01/hourly_wage_vs_.html An EXCELLENT

RE: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Scott Raley
We need a nickname for you cause you gotz answers for every question posted. You like tapped into the matrix or something... -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Hiring question - Hourly

RE: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Jacob
HR is probably thinking that the company could make her salary so they do not have to pay overtime. Could be a costly mistake for the company... -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:10 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re:

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Eric Roberts
The problem is that to do anything, the Senate requires a super majority, which is what the Republicans have been taking advantagenof and filibustering just about everything. On Wednesday, July 7, 2010, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Just because you have the power, does not mean you

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Ras Tafari
its Answer with a K On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Scott Raley sra...@itc-llc.com wrote: We need a nickname for you cause you gotz answers for every question posted. You like tapped into the matrix or something... ~| Order

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread morgan l
I see the problem more as needing a super-majority to vote in favor of having a vote on a bill that only requires a simple majority to pass. Seems backwards to me. Yes, political minority voices need to have some sway, but they should not be able to hold up the proceedings. That, or bring back

RE: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Sisk, Kris
They'd both be terrible places to live. You'd need to split it in three so that the moderates would have a sane place to live. -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: If you can't beat 'em... I

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
HR is probably thinking that the company could make her salary so they do not have to pay overtime. Could be a costly mistake for the company... Actually, that's not it at all - HR is the one who classified it as hourly. We're an HR outsourcing company (aka Professional Employer Organization

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Erika L. Rich
I am the Oracle ... (with a K) ;) On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Scott Raley sra...@itc-llc.com wrote: We need a nickname for you cause you gotz answers for every question posted. You like tapped into the matrix or something...

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread J.J. Merrick
Since we are on the topic... Any of you live up in the Northeast? My wife piped up and said the other day, out of the blue, and said let's move to Washington or Oregon... She was reading in a blog about Seattle and how green it tends to be. We are fairly liberal organic people and Nashville

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread J.J. Merrick
oops I mean Northwest yeah not enough coffee today! On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:19 PM, J.J. Merrick j...@jeremiahx.com wrote: Since we are on the topic... Any of you live up in the Northeast? My wife piped up and said the other day, out of the blue, and said let's move to Washington or

What's going on at the DOJ?

2010-07-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
Last year, the DOJ, led by Obama appointee Attorney General Eric Holder, dropped a voter intimidation casehttp://www.justice.gov/crt/voting/misc/philadelphia_bpp_comp.phpagainst Samir Shabazz, head of the Philadelphia chapter of the New Black Panther Party, and party member Jerry Jackson. There

Thursday Funny

2010-07-08 Thread Scott Stroz
OK, its obvious that Dylan has issues, but his first 'Vison for America' is pretty damn funny. http://www.lamebook.com/dylans-vision -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/8/2010 11:07 AM, J.J. Merrick wrote: Since we are on the topic... So how are you getting Nashville Southern hospitality in Hawaii? Since that is the only state I am aware of from which Oregon or Washington would be north*east*! As for what most of us call the north*west*, I lived a

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread morgan l
So Orakle or Erikle? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com wrote: I am the Oracle ... (with a K) ;) On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Scott Raley sra...@itc-llc.com wrote: We need a nickname for you cause you gotz answers for every question posted. You

Re: Thursday Funny

2010-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/8/2010 11:16 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: OK, its obvious that Dylan has issues, but his first 'Vison for America' is pretty damn funny. http://www.lamebook.com/dylans-vision Emphasis mine. Content blocked by your organization Reason: This Websense category is filtered: *Tasteless.* URL:

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its nice. (I'm from the area - just a bit further north actually). But the Seattle area does not get a lot of sun. Most of the time its overcast, unless you're somewhere like Vancouver Island or the islands nearby. larry On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, J.J. Merrick j...@jeremiahx.com wrote:

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
So Orakle or Erikle? Erkle? (*GDNR*) Hatton ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Cameron Childress
I have visited both Portland and Seattle and both are great cities. I personally prefer Portland though. Great public transportation, good people, kinda a mix of small town / big town feel. This is just my impression from visiting though. I think Judah lives there - maybe he will chime

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Judah McAuley
I live in Portland, Oregon and am a many generation Oregonian. I've got a bunch of friends in Seattle as well and have spent some time there. I know that Jerry Johnson, from this list, used to live in Portland. What do you want to know about the Northwest? Portland and Seattle are definitely

Major step towards an HIV vaccine

2010-07-08 Thread G Money
Amazing work our scientists are doing: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AIDS/hiv-vaccine-coming-antibodies-show-promise-strains/story?id=0290 -- I've seen your flag on the marble arch Love is not a victory march It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
One of my favorite days in Oregon began early on a Saturday, waking up in a yurt on the beach and sea kayaking in the surf, then mountain biking in the mountains under the big Sitka spruce rain forest, hitting Mt Hood in the afternoon for snowboard lessons, and setting up camp that night amongst

Re: New (On Hold) Music Wednesday

2010-07-08 Thread Judah McAuley
That describes a pretty perfect Oregon day I think Jerry. I still have this little dream of mine to work downtown, find a nice little house in St. John's and then commute by kayak. Might be a bit gnarly in the winter time but would be perfect in the summer. Hmm...now you've got me pondering

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...they really need to bring it back to what the constitution says...a simple majority. On Jul 8, 2010 12:41 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: I see the problem more as needing a super-majority to vote in favor of having a vote on a bill that only requires a simple majority to pass.

Now these robot engineers are solving the problems...

2010-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
... that need to be solved! ... robot that delivers beer http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20009969-1.html Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Cq0sy4TBs ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: If you can't beat 'em...

2010-07-08 Thread Sam
Let's see if you still think that in November :) On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yeah...they really need to bring it back to what the constitution says...a simple majority.

Another Thursday funny

2010-07-08 Thread Scott Stroz
This video achieves a level of awesomeness that cannot be measured with existing technology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoqtwmuTyQQfeature=player_embedded -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*k happened. - Cpt.

Re: Another Thursday funny

2010-07-08 Thread Medic
Awesome? Yes! Funny? No! Thread title fail. ;) On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: This video achieves a level of awesomeness that cannot be measured with existing technology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoqtwmuTyQQfeature=player_embedded -- Scott

Re: Hiring question - Hourly vs Salary

2010-07-08 Thread Erika L. Rich
/me snorts ... :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-08 Thread Robert Munn
Finally some clear thinking about gun rights in liberal circles: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/4/881431/-Why-liberals-should-love-the-Second-Amendment a teaser: --- When it comes to discussing the Second Amendment, liberals check rational thought at the door. They dismiss

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-08 Thread Maureen
I'll acknowledge the value of the 2nd amendment when the conservatives acknowledge the value of the other nine. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: When it comes to discussing the Second Amendment, liberals check rational thought at the door. They dismiss

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Roger that...it seems that conservatives only care about the other nine when it serves their purpose. Otherwise they are more than happy to wipe thier ass with the document. On Thursday, July 8, 2010, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I'll acknowledge the value of the 2nd amendment when

Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

2010-07-08 Thread Eric Roberts
I am a liberal and I support the 2nd amendment, but not for the reason The NRA and their conservative sheeple gun nuts do. On Thursday, July 8, 2010, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: Finally some clear thinking about gun rights in liberal circles:

Re: Another Thursday funny

2010-07-08 Thread Scott Stroz
I laughed. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome? Yes! Funny? No! Thread title fail. ;) On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: This video achieves a level of awesomeness that cannot be measured with existing technology.

Re: Another Thursday funny

2010-07-08 Thread Medic
It's pretty amazing. I wish I had that kind of talent. And patience. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I laughed. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome? Yes! Funny? No! Thread title fail. ;) On Thu, Jul 8,