Hi
On the server (CF 8.0) I have an Excel .xls file. It is a simple file
containing text and formatting (no macros etc). What I want to do is to read
it, replace a few placeholders (date,username)in cells with their actual
values (the current date and name of logged in user) and stream the
Apparently the teacher bailout is offending some now. The money to used to
help bail states out of reducing the teacher work force came from money used
for food stamps (or will come I should say).
This could lead one to ask oneself if teacher unions are more important to
certain politicians or
I certainly wouldn't use funds for food stamps to do this...how about funds
used to pay these outrageous bonuses of bank CEO's...
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Piling On:
What is the purpose of applying logic of any kind to a discussion
about writing massive amounts of code to do what lcase() does? =)
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On the one hand they blame Obama's government for the deficit
situation, and talk at length about what must be done to reduce the
deficit..
But they are firmly against repealing tax cuts on the rich.
And then Newt Gingrich turns around and says that if America were more
like China the economy
You had me at Insane GOP
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
On the one hand they blame Obama's government for the deficit
situation, and talk at length about what must be done to reduce the
deficit..
But they are firmly against repealing tax cuts on the rich.
the cost of 2 stealth bombers would cover the cost of the so called
teacher bailout.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
I certainly wouldn't use funds for food stamps to do this...how about funds
used to pay these outrageous bonuses of bank
Our Daughter isn't a selfish brat; Your son just hasn't read Atlas Shrugged
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I assume you mean funds from TARP that were/are used to pay the
bonuses of bank CEOs?
I would hate to think you mean we should just take money from any bank
CEO solely because they got a bonus.
I think that the bonuses paid to many of the CEO of large
corporations(not just banks) are obscene,
bwahahahah
On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Medic wrote:
You had me at Insane GOP
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
On the one hand they blame Obama's government for the deficit
situation, and talk at length about what must be done to reduce the
deficit..
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
Our Daughter isn't a selfish brat; Your son just hasn't read Atlas Shrugged
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2010/8/12hague.html
I wouldn't have given that kid my Elmo ball either. I earned that ball!
-Cameron
I kept reading it as Emo Ball
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
Our Daughter isn't a selfish brat; Your son just hasn't read Atlas Shrugged
You had me at Insane GOP
You had me at cuts.
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I think his exact words were, Have a ball, peas [sic]? And I'm sure you
were very proud of him for using his manners.
To be sure, I was equally proud when Johanna yelled, No! Looter! right in
his looter face, and then only marginally less proud when she sort of shoved
So they bitch about Obama being too socialist, yet they want to be more like
a communist dictatorship? Huh?
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From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:37 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts
On the
Take a look at the Apache POI utility. There are some CF wrappers for
it, I believe, and it is also what Adobe is using under the covers for
its cfspreadsheet tag.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:34 AM, marc -- m...@marcbakker.com wrote:
Hi
On the server (CF 8.0) I have an Excel .xls file. It is a
the cost of 2 stealth bombers would cover the cost of the so called teacher
bailout.
Someone should ask the administration and congress why they chose food
stamps over stealth bombers.
Better yet, they should ask why in the hell the federal government is
bailing the states out anyway.
J
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
the cost of 2 stealth bombers would cover the cost of the so called teacher
bailout.
Someone should ask the administration and congress why they chose food
stamps over stealth bombers.
Because food stamps are more
On the one hand they blame Obama's government for the deficit situation,
and talk at length about what must be done to reduce the deficit..
It's an easy argument to make when the Obama administration announced that
the July deficit was 165 billion dollars. That is more than the deficit for
the
That was painfully awesome. Thanks.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
Our Daughter isn't a selfish brat; Your son just hasn't read Atlas Shrugged
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2010/8/12hague.html
Because food stamps are more useful than stealth bombers.
So, then why didn't they cut the bombers? Are you saying gov't always cuts
the more useful items?
Because the federal government has borrowing power that the states do not
and it would be counter-productive not to mention morally wrong
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
On the one hand they blame Obama's government for the deficit
situation, and talk at length about what must be done to reduce the
deficit..
Yes, it's very important.
But they are firmly against repealing tax cuts on the rich.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19303-emc2-not-on-conservapedia.html
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Ben Nadel has a great Poi component.
http://www.bennadel.com/projects/poi-utility.htm
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
Take a look at the Apache POI utility. There are some CF wrappers for
it, I believe, and it is also what Adobe is using under the
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Because food stamps are more useful than stealth bombers.
So, then why didn't they cut the bombers? Are you saying gov't always cuts
the more useful items?
Ah, because politicians are craven and get more money from
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
Ah yes, the spoiled brat theory. The best time to kick someone is when
they are down. They'll never learn until their constituents are
starving in the street. Well, actually, they already are and the
politicians
It may be an easy one, but it's not an honest one...
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts
On the one hand they blame Obama's government for
This is why I hate people.
Not you guys, though, other people.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19303-emc2-not-on-conservapedia.html
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
It's an easy argument to make when the Obama administration announced that
the July deficit was 165 billion dollars. That is more than the deficit
for
the entire year 2007 under the not so fiscally conservative Bush
The cost of farm subsides would more than cover the school lunch programs.
And way too much of the current education budget is going to highly paid
management rather than to teachers.
But the current political system lives on media bites and scapegoating, and
has no desire to really solve the
It's a good thing you're the only one that reads it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19303-emc2-not-on-conservapedia.html
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Going off your meds again? This makes even less sense than your usual
obscurantism.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a good thing you're the only one that reads it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com
wrote:
Isn't Conservapedia one mans ranting against the bias of Wikipedia?
The only people that read it are the ones looking to mock real conservatives.
That would be you and Zaph.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
Going off your meds again? This makes even
I'd like to see the stats for that.
According to UNESCO the US is #36 on per capita spending on primary
school students (i.e., K-6). Most of the EU, Britain, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, etc., spend more or the same as the US per
student.
So lets try another myth.
I did not say that we spend the most. I said that if 'I remember
correctly' (see that little disclaimer there?) there were a lot of
countries that send less but do a better job educating.
Just showing what countries spend is only half the data.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons
Well, you can include me in there, but I was just curious abou this
particular article :D
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't Conservapedia one mans ranting against the bias of Wikipedia?
The only people that read it are the ones looking to mock real
You also have to look at the sampling. For many of these international
tests, only select groups (i.e., for many countries those bound for
university or other higher ed programs) take these tests. If you did a
similar comparison with US students in the same situation e.g., IB or
AP programs,
Also I find this set of stats very interesting: %GDP spending on education:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_spe_per_pri_sch_stu-spending-per-primary-school-student
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_edu_spe-education-spending-of-gdp
I'm not arguing against education reform. State budgets are frequently
whacked out in priorities (like the national budget), education reform
in important, social welfare systems are not optimally designed...I
can go on and on. My point was that the funds that are going to,
partially, help plug
Just piling on a bit more:
http://nces.ed.gov/Pubs/eiip/eiipid43.asp
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
Also I find this set of stats very interesting: %GDP spending on education:
Bush was many things. Fiscally conservative was not among them. Even the
conservatives will agree with me on that.
Exactly.
That's why I said the not so fiscally conservative Bush Administration.
When you make the Bush Administration spending look weak, you're are
accomplishing something.
Once more, these numbers are meaningless to my point (or to counter my point).
My point was, throwing more money at the problem may not be the best
solution (I would go so far as to say I do not think its the best
solution).
Knowing what each country spends per student (either in straight up
Do you bring them to the ER or a bar?
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
you come across a drunk driver injured in an accident, there is every
reason to scold them for reckless behavior. But don't let the scolding
get in the way of stopping the
I have family and friends in NJ who are teachers and got laid off, so
I understand that side of the issue.
For each of these people I know, who got laid off was based on
seniority. If you were there longer, regardless of how good of a
teacher you are, you stayed. If you were a newer teacher, you
You do not understand, the fact is that the US is not throwing money
at a problem. If anything, these stats show its almost the opposite.
Given how little we spend on education we're getting a lot for what is
spent. So a simple overlay chart, average educational attainment
scores by average
Ah, because politicians are craven and get more money from the defense
industry than they do poor people.
Or they get more money from teacher unions than poor people.
Ah yes, the spoiled brat theory. The best time to kick someone is when they
are down. They'll never learn until their
I did not say that we spend the most. I said that if 'I remember correctly'
(see that little disclaimer there?) there were a lot of countries that send
less but do a better job educating.
Here's a nice video on school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
You do not understand, the fact is that the US is not throwing money
at a problem. If anything, these stats show its almost the opposite.
Given how little we spend on education we're getting a lot for what is
spent.
I am pretty sure this video is what I was referring to earlier. (I
thought maybe it was an article I read, but I guess I was wrong)
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
I did not say that we spend the most. I said that if 'I remember correctly'
(see that
And in NY the only way to get in is to know someone. What a scam.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
I have family and friends in NJ who are teachers and got laid off, so
I understand that side of the issue.
For each of these people I know, who got laid
Very expensive bi-partition reach by Pres Bush that didn't win any
love from the left anyway. he should have learned that from his dad.
But to say it was a waste is incorrect. It brought the grades of
minorities and mentally challenged way up.
I call that a success. The rest of the students had
20/20 is like a supermarket tabloid.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a nice video on school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw
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About the only good thing as far as I can see we got from NCLB is that
it generated a lot of data, most of it baseline with some real
follow-up info. That gives a good starting point for charting real
reforms. The problem with it is that it generally mandated changes but
didn't mandate any
Sorry.. I missed the word not when I read your post.
Curious as to which spending being done by the current administration you
think should be cut. Be specific.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why I said the not so fiscally conservative Bush
I will agree with you on that Scott...that is one of the many places where
unions have gone very wrong and encourage poor performance rather than
encouraging it.
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From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:15 PM
To: cf-community
Spending more almost never translates into better results. Look at the Los
Angeles or Atlanta school systems, which have huge per pupil expenditures
and horrible test scores and dropout rates. They also both have bloated
bureaucracies and poor programs for dealing with problem children.
Teaching to the test for NCLB is one of the worst things to ever happen to
the American public school system.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
About the only good thing as far as I can see we got from NCLB is that
it generated a lot of data, most of
LOL
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Emo Kid wrote:
You had me at Insane GOP
You had me at cuts.
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Not the bombers! They're mandated.
The schools tho... well, they ain't. Or something like that.
It's related to why we don't have a standing army, I think.
;-]
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I would disagree...in Dupage County, IL (just west of Cook County...where
Chicago is), we spend a lot on education and have some of the best schools
in the country. I do agree that unions are the biggest impediment to
improving schools.
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From: Maureen
I don't know if I buy that theory. Unions do some pretty swell stuff.
Our local one just held a bake-sale to try to raise money to offset
the spending cuts. ;)
Fer reals tho-- aren't teacher unions made up of, um, teachers?
So the biggest impediment to improving schools is the teachers?
Partly because they are not willing to give up things like tenure and
seniority which does keep bad teachers employed. While they may want to
improve things as teachers, they are not willing to do what it takes to make
it happen. They are too secure and comfy in their positions to give that
up.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:17 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
Fer reals tho-- aren't teacher unions made up of, um, teachers?
So the biggest impediment to improving schools is the teachers?
robot voice: does not compute
Made up of teachers, but not run by anyone you'd equate with a
The old it's who you know not what you know deal.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:17 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
Fer reals tho-- aren't teacher unions made up of, um, teachers?
So the biggest impediment to
Well sure... I mean, would you want to give anything up? (rhetorical
question) Especially if you had a job as demanding as teaching?
I blame the system, foremost-ly, for bad teachers. It alone, will
make a good girl turn bad, so to speak.
That's not exactly a union problem.
The actual
Its harder to get rid of a tenured teacher, regardless of how poor
they perform in their job than it is to get rid of herpes. That is
ridiculous. And who do I blame?
For the herpes?
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:17 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if I buy that theory. Unions do some pretty swell stuff.
Our local one just held a bake-sale to try to raise money to offset
the spending cuts. ;)
Fer reals tho-- aren't teacher unions made up of, um,
Two problems here:
First, not all teachers teach...too many just hand out assignments and
babysit.
Second: While teachers should be picked from the creme of the crop, valued
and paid accordingly, teaching is too often the default career for those who
can't cut it in harder disciplines.
When I
It is hilarious to see such stupid people abusing their children so.
Hilarious to see them support and even encourage one child to berate
and attack another. It'll be even funnier when they get old and she
won't even spare a dime to get them into a rest home. They'll be
living on the streets
Strange. over half my stats courses (and all the most advanced ones)
in grad school were taught by Education faculty.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Two problems here:
First, not all teachers teach...too many just hand out assignments and
babysit.
I think it was a poor attempt at satire trying to point out
conservatives are selfish idiots.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Michael Dinowitz
mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote:
It is hilarious to see such stupid people abusing their children so.
Hilarious to see them support and even
Canada, right? Maybe it's different there.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
Strange. over half my stats courses (and all the most advanced ones)
in grad school were taught by Education faculty.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Maureen
Somehow Judith and I missed the satire.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it was a poor attempt at satire trying to point out
conservatives are selfish idiots.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Michael Dinowitz
mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote:
It
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:33 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe unions do bad things, protect bad people... but group power is
derived from the group, not the leaders of a group.
Time to bring back corporeal punishment in schools. The teachers'
unions need to get spanked - HARD.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote:
Time to bring back corporeal punishment in schools. The teachers'
unions need to get spanked - HARD.
They aren't nearly as much of a problem as the prison guard union.
Fund education first, but only after true reform.
It may be a generation thing..I got it, just didn't find it humorous at all.
On 8/12/10, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote:
Somehow Judith and I missed the satire.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it was a poor attempt at satire trying
It was a rather apropos example of the similarities between
Libertarians and Toddlers.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Michael Dinowitz
mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote:
Somehow Judith and I missed the satire.
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Fund education first, but only after true reform. The current system is an
unmitigated disaster.
I'm in favor of education reform, but do you think that defunding
public education will help anyone
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
...
We have about as much hope of the 'teachers' who run the unions making
realistic change in the education system as we do congress enacting
realistic campaign reform.
Slim to none - and Slim is packing his bags.
I think it's more our
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Maureen wrote:
Two problems here:
First, not all teachers teach...too many just hand out assignments and
babysit.
Second: While teachers should be picked from the creme of the crop, valued
and paid accordingly, teaching is too often the default career for
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