I thought that was kinda humorous too. I guess Obama's election was rammed
down their throats too...oh wait...that was a democratic process where the
majority voted for something...just like the health care bill...imagine
that...
-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wired
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "The only slide to socialism that is really happening is from the pundits
> who slid into using the word when they realized they could no longer scare
> the masses by labeling someone a liberal."
>
> Sure.
>
> Just as a small reminder, in c
Meh...Bush had some of the worst public opinion numbers on record at
points in his presidency.
I am not saying these numbers are not important, just trying to add
some perspective. Obama still has 2 years to try and turn those
numbers around. Not impossible to do.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:12 P
I never said Churches should not be allowed to marry couples fo the same sex.
I can see how that first point may have been misinterpreted. I did not
mean to imply that Churches should not be allowed to marry same sex
couples. I was trying to say that in that 'solution' saem sex couples
be allowed
Sam, I owe you an apology. It seems we are a hell of a lot closer in
our opinions of this issue than I thought - and you even pointed it
out earlier - I apologize.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> My argument is if using the word marriage offends why bother. So few
> gays care abo
That was kinda my point. Ford has been making AFV and FFV vehicles since
the late 1990's.
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:30 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: how do they come up with this crud?
They needed to be bailed
They needed to be bailed out because for many years they produced
sub-standard vehicles, and negotiated outrageous union contracts.
Poor management and quality control also had a lot to do with it.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> I think the fact that they are just now r
I think the fact that they are just now releasing this is why they needed to
be bailed out and Ford didn't.
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: how do they come up with this crud?
Do me a
Coming from a state dumb enough to elect Boner, I am not surprised.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:12 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: new polling results are in
And they ain't pretty
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/20
The leaf goes 100 miles and then nothingwait a few hours to charge back up
and then you can go. Meanwhile, the volt is probably gonna have a range over
300 miles. Then if you run out, it's as simple as refilling the gas tank.
They are not the same car.
On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Jerry
> Its not rocket science just being systematic
> and persistent.
All true, but we just don't have the time and experience to deploy and
configure all of the necessary pieces and be sure we're doing it properly.
We can/could do a lot of things, but we'd prefer to outsource things we feel
an outsid
That and Ultima I, II, III, and IV...
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Dangerous Sam?
"The Bard's Tale was my first RPG on my C64."
I wasted a lot of hours playing Bard's Tale and Ba
I was going to call this steam-punk, but its the real thing.
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/objects/display.aspx?id=5936&image=1
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Sounds interesting.
J
-
No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session. - Mark Twain
The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and
provisions should be made to prevent its ascendancy. - Thomas Jefferson
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:
Here comes the spelling Nazi...
I meant pieces
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Sam wrote:
> Naw, leave him in peaces.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Maureen wrote:
>>
>> Sorry. Maybe you can hire someone to put it back to together for you.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sa
Naw, leave him in peaces.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Sorry. Maybe you can hire someone to put it back to together for you.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> On that note I think mister hate's head just exploded.
>>
>
~
Do me a favor. Read this, and pay attention to the dates that design
and construction began on this car.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt
Then tell me if you still think the current administration is forcing
them to release it.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
Sorry. Maybe you can hire someone to put it back to together for you.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On that note I think mister hate's head just exploded.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Maureen wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure he meant you need to let up on hating, not on hat
"Just curious, but why do YOU think Chevrolet is releasing the Volt?"
Wonderful question.
I would say that they were told to by the government.
Compare the Volt to the Mazda Leaf
The Volt cost 41K versus 32K for the Leaf.
The Volt gets 40 miles per charge versus 100 miles per charge for the Le
Whether you agree with the content of the bill or not, and I don't,
health care legislation was voted on and passed by duly elected
representatives of the Republic. Nothing socialist about that.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> Just as a small reminder, in case you forgot
I'm saying Obama ignores everyone except his handlers.
Just not at the same time as you would like to imply.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> So now you are saying that Obama has indeed ignored the people? SO I guess
> then that you have first implied it by posting this
On that note I think mister hate's head just exploded.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Pretty sure he meant you need to let up on hating, not on haters.
> Projection, I suspect.
>
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
> we lived in kings quest as children :)
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>>
>> "The Bard's Tale was my first RPG on my C64."
>>
>> I wasted a lot of hours playing Bard's Tale and Bard's Tale II.
>>
>>
>
"The only slide to socialism that is really happening is from the pundits
who slid into using the word when they realized they could no longer scare
the masses by labeling someone a liberal."
Sure.
Just as a small reminder, in case you forgot, the current administration
rammed through health car
we lived in kings quest as children :)
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "The Bard's Tale was my first RPG on my C64."
>
> I wasted a lot of hours playing Bard's Tale and Bard's Tale II.
>
>
> J
>
> -
>
> No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is
Pretty sure he meant you need to let up on hating, not on haters.
Projection, I suspect.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> No I don't...I dont need to ease up on hate or injustice...that is
> something I will fight until my last breath. Maybe you should look inside
> you
"The Bard's Tale was my first RPG on my C64."
I wasted a lot of hours playing Bard's Tale and Bard's Tale II.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session. - Mark Twain
The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and
provisions
Did you get my reply ... ?
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Justin Scott
wrote:
>
> > There are a ton of open source load testing tools,
> > you could do this yourself...
>
> Yeah, we've been down that route before but we just don't have the capacity
> to generate the kind of load that will crus
What do you mean? You can set up a distributed jMeter load test with
multiple slave instances over 2 or 3 machines and a master instance of
jMeter controlling the lot. It would give you the equivalent of
thousands of simultaneous hits, well beyond what could possibly occur
in reality.
As for doin
No I don't...I dont need to ease up on hate or injustice...that is
something I will fight until my last breath. Maybe you should look inside
yourself and see why that makes you uncomfortable.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:50
No...you described fascism...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:46 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: how do they come up with this crud?
I described Nazism, Fascism, Communism and Socialism.
What I did not describe was capitalism
ROFL...
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:46 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: how do they come up with this crud?
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> Isn't there a corollary to Godwin's Law that saws th
id say both, but ill know soon enough
i dont have it yet...
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> *I take it this is for regular gmail and not gmail hosted?
> *
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Tony wrote:
>
>>
>> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/priority-inbox.html
>>
>> ver
just maybe ;)
im filtered/foldered and starred up, i have only 8 in my inbox ATM
:)
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Casey Dougall
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Tony wrote:
>
>>
>> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/priority-inbox.html
>>
>> very very cool!
>>
>>
> Maybe it's time
Scott...Why shouldn't they be allowed to marry in a church (or other
religious institution) if said church has no issues with same sex marriage?
That's not very equal...if Sam wanted an example of you suggesting
discrimination...there would be one... ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Scott Str
+infinity on that one Larry...
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:55 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
Everyone on this list knows my opinion on this matter. I
It was a dishonest attempt, Sam's usual MO in arguments...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:50 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
You are both wrong.
You can't use that as
> There are a ton of open source load testing tools,
> you could do this yourself...
Yeah, we've been down that route before but we just don't have the capacity
to generate the kind of load that will crush our servers and really bring
out the weak spots, nor the time or expertise to properly conf
Why should we respect the POV of someone who wants to discriminate against
anther human being? Should we also respect the POV of the KKK or the
Neo-Nazi's? Where's all the respect for the Muslim's POV?
-Original Message-
From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug
How would that be changing anything on the church side other than allowing
churches to marry same sex marriages if they are ok with that. None of this
would force anyone to marry same sex couples. All a marriage license does
is say that the legal requirements (like age and verification that they
No that was you Sam and you alone. Scott was pointing out that people were
once morally ok with keeping humans as slaves, yet today you and most other
people would have no problem pointing out that it is morally wrong to do so.
I think you are the one that needs to breathe slowly, you seem to be
Justin,
There are a ton of open source load testing tools, you could do this
yourself...
Just sayin' :)
-Original Message-
From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Load Testing
I'm curious if anyone ha
How is it cramming anything down anyone's throats? IF I were to marry
another man, how would that effect your marriage (assuming you are married
for sake of argument)? Just because something is part of someone's moral
code doesn't mean that it is right. Stoning was once part of the Christian
mo
Exactly...ask an African-American how separate but equal worked out for
them...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:45 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
Sam - they do
It's not dismissing other's morality causally, it's dismissing their attempt
to force their morality on everyone else. If you don't like homosexuality
and you think it is wrong, well don't have sex with a member of your sex and
don't try to marry a member of your own sex. But don't tell someone
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I feel that homosexual couples should be granted the same rights as a
> heterosexual couple - as a matter of fact, I think they should just be
> called 'couples'. This includes, legally being a 'spouse' and all the
> benefits that affords -
I think that's what it's called. It was a game for the Atari ST. You were
like a little spy guy I think and you had guns and sticks of dynamite as
your special weapon. Anyone remember it?
While looking for it I came across this and got all nostalgic.
http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20070223b/ba
In case you hadn't noticed...gay has been mainstream for a long long time.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
Why do you always take th
Most gay folk could care less if you accept them or not...just stay out of
their lives and stop discriminating against them.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:06 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck an
I they were so worried about the sanctity of marriage, they would stop
having affairs. Again, who gives a rat's ass if one or more religions think
that it is immoral? This is not a theocracy...not yet anyhow...so the
opinion of religions don't count. Not everyone thinks that it is
immoral...so
So now you are saying that Obama has indeed ignored the people? SO I guess
then that you have first implied it by posting this article, which states
it, and now you have stated it. So that makes it said twice.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug
Yeah, you need to ease up on it.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Hate is also hate...homophobia is hate. 40-50 years ago, they had th
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-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
So you're saying it's not about rights, it's about making gay normal?
Isn't that what the avoidable f
Sam, you are taking a lot of what I have said out of context.
I am going to clarify it for you (again):
I feel that homosexual couples should be granted the same rights as a
heterosexual couple - as a matter of fact, I think they should just be
called 'couples'. This includes, legally being a 's
I described Nazism, Fascism, Communism and Socialism.
What I did not describe was capitalism or libertarianism.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> OK...what you described was fascism...
>
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It's much easier to hate and spread that pestilence to the next
generation...
-Original Message-
From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:25 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
Opposition to gay m
Glenn Beck represents his wallet...and that's it.
-Original Message-
From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:17 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This sums it up nicely
Hey Sam...Glenn Beck does not represent "the people".
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:5
How would a church be forced to do anything? It would only allow religions
that are not homophobic to marry their parishioners who are gay. Religious
institutions are free to tell someone they won't marry them and laws cannot
be passed to change that as that would be violating the first amendmen
Why change the name...marriage is marriage. It doesn't matter what you call
it. Hate is also hate...homophobia is hate. 40-50 years ago, they had this
same exact argument except then is was allowing interracial marriages. The
arguments are the same, the hate is the same, only the labels have c
All it takes is for someone to get married in one of the states where it is
legal and then they move to another state and get denied benefits and then
sue...then it will be game over for the homophobes.
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
That because Rush and Glenn and other conservative talking heads keep
pounding that bullshit into their heads as a wedge issue. They know their
faithful masses are too gullible to believe otherwise.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31
Socialism isn't the only leftist political-economic theory. Marxism is one
in its own. It does share some concepts but it doesn't mean that everything
on the left is socialism.
Where did I say communism is good? Drinking more of that kool-aide Sam?
Sweden and Denmark are Social Democracies t
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>> You do realize that's what we're all saying? Yet you're arguing like
>> you have an unique point.
>
> No, you are not. You and others are saying gay people already have
> civil unions, that should be good enough. Its not. Separate but equal
No, because 1. Fascism is part of the topic and 2. Godwin's law is crap
that was originated by some gasbag who lost an argument.
-Original Message-
From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:27 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: how do they come up wi
OK...what you described was fascism...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:23 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: how do they come up with this crud?
It does.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> And that doesn
The Fair Faith in Credit clause ensures that marriages in one state are
recognized in the other states.
No...states do not recognize civil unions for same sex couples.
How is that the government discriminating against religion? No one is or
would be forcing your church to marry homosexuals. Wha
You said you got a rainbow farting unicorn with your new job. Maybe
you were drunk when you said that?
Judah
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> Yeah. America is about as far from socialism as I am from a rainbow farting
> unicorn.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Maureen w
Yeah. America is about as far from socialism as I am from a rainbow farting
unicorn.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> The only slide to socialism that is really happening is from the
> pundits who slid into using the word when they realized they could no
> longer scare the m
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> Isn't there a corollary to Godwin's Law that saws the thread's over when
> someone brings the Nazis into it? So shouldn't this thread be over? :)
Godwin's law:
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
involving
The only slide to socialism that is really happening is from the
pundits who slid into using the word when they realized they could no
longer scare the masses by labeling someone a liberal.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> At least Obama's rapid move towards European soc
*I take it this is for regular gmail and not gmail hosted?
*
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Tony wrote:
>
> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/priority-inbox.html
>
> very very cool!
>
> Tony Weeg
> Sr. Web Applications Architect & Developer
> Navtrak, Inc.
> "Driving Business Productivity"
> ww
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>> Many states are making them equal. It's a much easier task to get
>>> civil unions to equal marriage than to change marriage. But they don't
>>> want to go that route.
>>
>> Who are 'they'?
>
So deliberately twisting then. Why do you do that? Everyone knows you're
full of it when you try to dictate to someone else what they just said.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:50 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opi
Everyone on this list knows my opinion on this matter. In part here's why.
As you may not know same sex marriage is legal across Canada. About 3
years ago my cousin finally married his significant other with whom he
had been with for quite a while. It was a very beautiful marriage
ceremony on a p
You are both wrong.
You can't use that as a comparison and then claim they are completely different.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> No, Sam, he wasn't. Either you're reading out of context or you're
> deliberately twisting what he said in a dishonest attempt to discredit
It is actually an extension of the notion that rights are inherent,
not given through a government decision. Government is there to
protect human rights, not to hand them out. You don't get to vote on
whether someone has human rights or not and the right to love, reside
with, cherish and marry (in
Actually my point was more about debating the issue with respect for the
opposing side's view. I took your point as meaning that approach is not
always practical.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:33 PM
To: cf-community
Subje
forgot to mention that the cfc is also on riaForge
http://imagecfc.riaforge.org/
I think the author, Rick Root, is on CF-Community, but definitely on CF-Talk.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> I have something archived but its been a while since I've worked with
> it. I
No, Sam, he wasn't. Either you're reading out of context or you're
deliberately twisting what he said in a dishonest attempt to discredit
him. Either way your commend was off point.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:26 PM
To: cf-co
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>> Many states are making them equal. It's a much easier task to get
>> civil unions to equal marriage than to change marriage. But they don't
>> want to go that route.
>
> Who are 'they'?
You, Gmoney the folks that are fighting the wrong fight
No, I was not, and you know it.
I was merely putting the attitude Kris mentioned, 'who are we to tell
the majority they are wrong' , into perspective.
Just because the majority wants something, does not make it right.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> No, Scott was comparing same
I have something archived but its been a while since I've worked with
it. It may be easier to try ImageCFC:
http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
>From the site:
This image component can:
READ jpg, gif, and PNG files, and provide dimensions and other details.
Images can be read from local files
No, Scott was comparing same sex marriage to slavery.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> My point here was that cramming gay marriage down people's throats was
> the wrong way to go about getting it allowed. Scott's point was that
> sometimes that's the only way to get the
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> Sam - they do not have the same rights. They cannot get 'married' in
>> the 'civil contract' sense. yes, some places offer 'civil unions' for
>> gay couples but it is not the same as what is
My point here was that cramming gay marriage down people's throats was
the wrong way to go about getting it allowed. Scott's point was that
sometimes that's the only way to get the right thing done. Your point
seems to be that not getting married isn't as bad as slavery. Fair
enough, but it has no
You're saying not having a marriage certificate equates to slavery?
I'm guessing either you don't mind slavery or that certificate means a
real lot to you.
You can have mine, it's just a piece of paper to me.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:21
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Sam - they do not have the same rights. They cannot get 'married' in
> the 'civil contract' sense. yes, some places offer 'civil unions' for
> gay couples but it is not the same as what is available for
> heterosexual couples.
Many states a
Point taken.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:49 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Sisk, Kris
wrote:
>
>
> See, therein lies the i
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
>
> See, therein lies the issue. What can you accomplish by dismissing the
> morality of others so casually? Would it not be better to convince them
> to keep their morality to themselves than to push your morality on them
> by telling them tha
Sam - they do not have the same rights. They cannot get 'married' in
the 'civil contract' sense. yes, some places offer 'civil unions' for
gay couples but it is not the same as what is available for
heterosexual couples.
I think its been proven, more than once, that separate but equal just
does n
I don't think they have a legitimate reason. Just because their faith says
it's immoral doesn't mean any other faith says it is immoral and even if
every other faith said it was immoral, our laws are secular and cannot be
defined by religious belief. So whether or not they think it is immoral is
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:04 PM, G Money wrote:
>>
>> I don't think they said ALL Americans. Remember when Obama was
>> campaigning large crowds meant something to you. Now...not so much.
>>
>
> OOPS! Wrong answer!
>
> I know you LOVE to put me into a group and throw one of your stock answers
> a
Hmmm. Because I have no idea how to do that. ha.
Any place you can point me?
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> I think Alagad has a image manipulation CFC. That said why not create
> a CFC wrapper for the java image manipulation classes. That's
> essentially what CF8 di
I don't think they have a legitimate reason. Just because their faith says
it's immoral doesn't mean any other faith says it is immoral and even if
every other faith said it was immoral, our laws are secular and cannot be
defined by religious belief. So whether or not they think it is immoral is
>But WHY is it an immoral act? What makes it immoral? Who is having
their
rights trampled on? You? Me? God?
See, this is what the immoral crowd can never reconcile with me.
Nope, religion tells them it's immoral as a cover for the real
reasonit's icky.
See, therein lies the issue. What can
Because you are so angry in you attacks. You think everyone that
doesn't have your point of view is a hater. They have legitimate
reasons.
I do think the extremists in the gay rights movement are dangerous and
powerful and a little push back is good.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:10 PM, G Money w
I think Alagad has a image manipulation CFC. That said why not create
a CFC wrapper for the java image manipulation classes. That's
essentially what CF8 did.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I've got the task of CF7-izing a CF8 app. It uses CFImage for some tasks.
> Anyone know
You misunderstand me. I'm all for gay marriage. I'd prefer that it go by
the name of civil unions, but I'm not about to say it should or has to.
I simply understand where the other side of the debate is coming from.
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
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First off Kris, are gays second class citizens?
Shouldn't they have the protections granted by the 14th amendment? Or
should there be special provision made for those with slightly
different genetic dispositions from the rest of us?
Marrying the person of your choice has been considered a fundam
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