at least so says the ACLU:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/22/opinion/crump-cellphone-privacy/index.html
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The behavior of the Chicago police during the Democratic Convention in
1968 cost Hubert Humphrey the election, and gave us 5 1/2 years of
Nixon.
I don't think either candidate wants visible protests at their party's
convention, but might be wishing for a violent mess for the
opposition.
I don't
And Obama has given a very public speech praising police for behaving.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:28 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: NATO Protests
except that mostly they didn't? I mean, didn't we just discuss at great
That's what *they* want you to think!
I tend to believe you, Dana, and I haven't seen much that would
contradict that. However, many folks will never pass up an opportunity
to throw shit at the President and the media, regardless of whether it
is true or not.
It's also not clear to me if Jerry w
except that mostly they didn't? I mean, didn't we just discuss at great
length that the police stopped short of busting heads? Many many times?
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I think what Jerry is saying is that Chicago is Obama's home town and
> Rahm is now mayor. It
Much more well said than my own post. Thanks.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I think what Jerry is saying is that Chicago is Obama's home town and
> Rahm is now mayor. It would hurt the admin's liberal narrative,
> especially populist message of reelecting Obama to r
I think what Jerry is saying is that Chicago is Obama's home town and
Rahm is now mayor. It would hurt the admin's liberal narrative,
especially populist message of reelecting Obama to reduce the growing
wealth disparity, if cops in Chicago were busting heads during Occupy
protests. Hence, the acc
CNN, ABC, and CBS didn't do much coverage either...i don't know about Fox
since I don't watch them...but I suspect, neither did they.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:43 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: NATO Protests
if that's
Not Obama when he is making public addresses where he applauds the
police...not a way to pander to the left.
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:34 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: NATO Protests
Really? In an election cycle, wit
if that's the argument it's bogus. There were some worrisome
police-state-like things that happened, like harassment of journalists, but
they have not really been covered in the corporate media. It's being
written up as kind of a success.
http://www.startribune.com/nation/152522725.html
So lack
I think that argument comes down to this.
By not covering the conference, and any negative actions taken their by
state, local and federal law enforcement; MSNBC give the administration a
free ride. They aren't perceived as the executives of the police state,
and it alienates less voters.
On Tu
wait.
is Jerry saying the lack of MSNBC coverage reinforces the liberal media
trope? If so, how? Chicago is getting written off as mostly a success and
in any event it's Chicago's police that are mostly getting the credit.
If they are so liberal why wouldn't they play that up?
Large-scale abus
"Really? In an election cycle, with things being as close as they
are, who would
benefit from large scale abuses being reported at something like the NATO
conference or the DNC?"
Coverage of huge civil unrest and an over the top crackdown in Obama's home
town would not look good for Team Obama.
Really? In an election cycle, with things being as close as they are, who
would benefit from large scale abuses being reported at something like the
NATO conference or the DNC?
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Wow...Jerry is actually ma
That guy is a turd, pure and simple. The DOJ is scary as hell these days.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "DOJ comes out and argues the seemingly obvious, that videotaping and
> photographing
> police in public areas is a protected 1st Amendment activity. Ridiculously
Wow...Jerry is actually making Sam look intelligent and rational...
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:03 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: NATO Protests
"zing"
Not quite. It actually reinforces it. Would news of polic
ROFL...wow
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:03 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: NATO Protests
"zing"
Not quite. It actually reinforces it. Would news of police brutality and
major unrest help Obama or hurt him?
J
"DOJ comes out and argues the seemingly obvious, that videotaping and
photographing
police in public areas is a protected 1st Amendment activity. Ridiculously
obvious, I know, but something that police departments nation-wide have
been fighting against for quite awhile."
Exactly right. Ridiculou
"Any comments on your experience with it vs DropBox?"
Seem to work about the same. Drive incorporates google documents in with
the folder.
I just store bric-a-brac in each (mp3's, pdf's, epubs, downloads). I'm not
real concerned about privacy. I would not, at this point, store important
info
"The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street."
I'd say that they are all a joke now. The occupy movement started as a
nice grass roots effort and has been compromised now, particularly by the
unions. It seems to be the American way.
J
-
Ninety percent of politici
The irony. Dana used to blast me for posting stuff from the Guardian.
You should check out some Russian news.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger
Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
go out and
"I haven't been following this...what's everyone pissed off about now?"
Same old shit. Basically someone has more than someone else and so on . . .
Personally, I don't really give a damn why they are protesting.
What concerns me is the preemptive attempt to stifle the first amendment
and the p
"zing"
Not quite. It actually reinforces it. Would news of police brutality and
major unrest help Obama or hurt him?
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger
Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunne
Yer breaking my heart
.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:51 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> I'm sure you'll be missed.
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> Methinks this list just jumped the shark.
>>
>>
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I'm sure you'll be missed.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Methinks this list just jumped the shark.
>
> .
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > yeah I am interested, especially in whether people are allowed to do it.
> > But look, if you start condemning peo
Methinks this list just jumped the shark.
.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> yeah I am interested, especially in whether people are allowed to do it.
> But look, if you start condemning people for not agreeing with you then
> you're not doing anything you believe in any good. Ju
LOL
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> if you go carrying pictures of chairman mao...
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> >
> > yeah I am interested, especially in whether people are allowed to do it.
> > But look, if you start condemning people for not
if you go carrying pictures of chairman mao...
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> yeah I am interested, especially in whether people are allowed to do it.
> But look, if you start condemning people for not agreeing with you then
> you're not doing anything you believe in any g
yeah I am interested, especially in whether people are allowed to do it.
But look, if you start condemning people for not agreeing with you then
you're not doing anything you believe in any good. Just making the people
you agree with look a little more intolerant and superficial, is all I am
sayin
It was the whole Eric's of the world bullshit comment...
I was posting them for you and Tim and a few others that do care what
happens.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:32 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Prot
word.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> why post the pictures if you don't think people will be interested on at
> least some level?
>
> GMoney asked why it was important and you blew the opportunity to explain
> it to him. Maybe his mind was closed, but I don't think so. He's on
why post the pictures if you don't think people will be interested on at
least some level?
GMoney asked why it was important and you blew the opportunity to explain
it to him. Maybe his mind was closed, but I don't think so. He's one of the
people here who *will* re-evaluate a position based on n
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> Need a staple for your wrist there Cam?
>
Perhaps a paperclip for my ankle?
I'm all set on office supplies, thanks for asking.
-Cameron
...
~
I like it.
vocally, for some reason, I am reminded of The Red Rockers, but not a 1-1 thing.
I will look for more.
Today I spent some time with all my John Doe Thing music, enjoying that.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> New video from a personal favorite of mine by th
New video from a personal favorite of mine by the name of Langhorne
Slim. Originally from Langhorne, PA then lived here in Portland for a
bit and, last I heard, is a travelling troubadour with no fixed
address. Simple, heartfelt, minimal instrumentation rocking out with
impassioned vocals.
Langho
Need a staple for your wrist there Cam?
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > Why should I find common ground with someone who obviously isn't
> > interested?
>
>
> Oh God, whe
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> Why should I find common ground with someone who obviously isn't
> interested?
Oh God, where to start with this. Seriously. This entire thread is
fantastic.
-Cameron
...
~~~
Why should I find common ground with someone who obviously isn't interested?
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Protest
right. And it's your response I am talking about.
On
I would wager you are right.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> I would wager a month's salary that if you took the facemasks off
> those causing violence, you would find that a large percentage of them
> are plants put their solely to discredit the protesters. I know this
> wa
I would take that bet
.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> I would wager a month's salary that if you took the facemasks off
> those causing violence, you would find that a large percentage of them
> are plants put their solely to discredit the protesters. I know this
> was tru
I would wager a month's salary that if you took the facemasks off
those causing violence, you would find that a large percentage of them
are plants put their solely to discredit the protesters. I know this
was true in the anti-war movement, the free speech movement, the civil
rights movement and t
right. And it's your response I am talking about.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Talk to G about that...I was just responding to his comment...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday
hehe that makes me laugh.
.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> While I'm not crazy about Sam seemingly blind following of republican
> dogma, G's concerns are real ones. I saw the war protesters at Gathering
> of Eagles D.C. doing this very thing. One of the places I had ru
bwahahahahaha
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Demester >wrote:
>
> > The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street.
>
>
> Hell, they are a joke compared to a kid throwing a tantrum in a grocery
> st
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Demester wrote:
> The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street.
Hell, they are a joke compared to a kid throwing a tantrum in a grocery
store.
-Cameron
~~
While I'm not crazy about Sam seemingly blind following of republican
dogma, G's concerns are real ones. I saw the war protesters at Gathering
of Eagles D.C. doing this very thing. One of the places I had run ins with
R.A.S.H. and Black Bloc types in the past. The old people that were out
prima
You want to read a major indictment of the judicial system read this,
scroll past the first page of ad nonsense.
http://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_07_4_roberts.pdf
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> He does sound kind of like a stooge.
>
> The process of denying standing
Talk to G about that...I was just responding to his comment...
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:51 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Protest
see, that's not a good idea either. I grant you that Sam is hopeless
He does sound kind of like a stooge.
The process of denying standing to plaintiffs because the process is itself
secret, and so they cannot prove to have been effected, has been used to
great success actually. It was widely feared that the NY court would use
similar reasoning to throw out NDAA c
The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street.
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:39 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
Yeah - I should have
see, that's not a good idea either. I grant you that Sam is hopeless anyway
and probably a bot to begin with (I have no idea what he said because I
filter him). But statements like this just make it more "hippies not making
sense" in GMoney's mind. I saw a picture of a banner some protesters put u
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> And because of the GMoney's and the Sam's of the world, the country is
> going down the tubes...
>
Country is going down the tubes because I don't sympathize with some
hippies in Chicago???
I knew my ap
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> And because of the GMoney's and the Sam's of the world, the country is
> going down the tubes...
Ironically, also what the internet is made of.
-Cameron
...
~~~
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, GMoney wrote:
> If YOU initiate a confrontation, and YOU end up getting your ass kicked.
> Tough shit.
...including attempting to initiate fights with walls, windows, and other
various inanimate objects...
-Cameron
...
~~
sadly, the player in the lead is "Computer", her only other friend
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
> We run a weekly poker tournament... I'm the tournament director. So yups.
> My poker players. :)
> And I win plenty, I'm in second place. ;)
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:
We run a weekly poker tournament... I'm the tournament director. So yups.
My poker players. :)
And I win plenty, I'm in second place. ;)
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
>
> "Your" poker players... Sounds like someon
And because of the GMoney's and the Sam's of the world, the country is
going down the tubes...
-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:36 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Protest
It's SOPget yourself a large grou
One of the problems with oversight by the judiciary is that it is
appallingly ignorant of technology on the whole. But some oversight is
better than no oversight. As for thinking the plaintiffs are delusional,
right. Tell it to Birgitta Jonsdottir. Or Kim Dotcom for that matter.
Or, more to the p
That particular defense has been quite successful for the government
so far. I'm in the 9th Circuit and we've had a couple of cases winding
their way through the system for awhile where the government
accidentally revealed that they had, in fact, done just what was
accused in this case, that they
The following conversation never happened, but it's what popped in my head
when I read the article:
Editor: "What the heck is this? A travel expense report to the Bahamas?!"
Journalist: "Well, you see, I had to go there because my source doesn't
trust phones any more..."
Editor: "For a whole wee
Wow. Jacobs sounds like an asshole. If he can't separate his personal
distaste for the plaintiffs from the legal standing of their complaint,
then he needs to recuse himself if the matter gets sent back to him.
The government's defense is that the plaintiffs can't sue because no one
caught t
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/05/supreme-court-to-decide-if-journalists-can-sue-over-warrantless-wiretaps/
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I think there is a huge potential market for a private DropBox(ish) product
that you point at your own storage location. You own S3 bucket, or a server
in your office, or whatever... Then you control the level of security, and
bear the cost of storage yourself as well...
-Cameron
On Tue, May 22
no comments either way, I rarely use both/either anyway.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> Any comments on your experience with it vs DropBox?
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
>> Google Drive bab!
>>
>> https://drive.google.com
>
>
>
I don't trust either? ;)
Rackspace Cloud Drive whoo!
On 5/22/2012 10:53 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> Any comments on your experience with it vs DropBox?
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
>> Google Drive bab!
~~
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> This is one of my issues with underground journalism and new media. If
> those of us that are worried about what is going on want to be taken
> seriously we need to be careful about sources as well as using rhetoric
> when the truth is scary
Yeah - I should have taken a pic. I'll see if it's still up later today if
I remember.
They put up a bunch of other signs too, most of them half destroyed by
moisture...
-Cameron
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, PT wrote:
> Heh. You should grab one and scan it.
>
> Talking to the police, a
Heh. You should grab one and scan it.
Talking to the police, as in forming some kind of relationship is a good
thing to do. Other times, talking to the police is an ignorant thing to
do. If the police are asking about witness type stuff, it is probably
OK and a public service to tel what yo
I was going for a walk in my neighborhood this past weekend to visit a new
park they've recently opened nearby and saw a number of cheap photocopied
signs stapled to light posts here and there. I started to look closer and
saw that they were signs produced by Occupy Atlanta, who've been kicked out
Any comments on your experience with it vs DropBox?
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
> Google Drive bab!
>
> https://drive.google.com
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I agree but that is not all that went on imho. I felt a need to call it
where I saw it tho and at least 2 instances of violence that are getting a
lot of play were provoked. Perhaps could have been handled better but were
provoked.
> If YOU initiate ga confrontation, and YOU end up getting your
every woman i mounted before my woman now, never had all her
directories either.
and some had different ones than others ;)
btw, it works on a mac just fine!
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Doesn't work, just randomly syncs directories. Can't figure out why
> every computer I m
I totally agree
.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, GMoney wrote:
>
> It's SOPget yourself a large group of people, do whatever you can to
> initiate some violence (doesn't take much), and then gain sympathy. It
> works on the Eric Roberts' of the world every time. Every single time.
>
> I'v
It's SOPget yourself a large group of people, do whatever you can to
initiate some violence (doesn't take much), and then gain sympathy. It
works on the Eric Roberts' of the world every time. Every single time.
I've just grown weary of it. I sympathize with SOME of the goals of the
protestors
You had to wind them up didn't you :)
.
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
>
>
> But this pretty clearly isn't a case of "aw those poor
> little peaceful protesters" to me.
>
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Doesn't work, just randomly syncs directories. Can't figure out why
every computer I mount has different directories and none have all.
Give it time.
.
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
> Google Drive bab!
>
> https://drive.google.com
>
~~
Very cool.
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