Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I can give you 113 convictions from one city in 2008. Those were the cases > that were prosecuted. There were many more suspected cases that were not > sent to trial or had the statute of limitations expire. Actually, that was one state,

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > The libertarian part of me thinks people should plan > ahead as much as possible on their own by providing their own safety > net and reducing risks, but the realist in me knows that not everyone > has the means to cover expenses and things

RE: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
They seem to confuse that and election fraud with voter fraud quite a bit Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com ---

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Justin Scott
> The insurance industry is special. They do everything possible to > convince people of the importance of having insurance and then > after purchase, do everything possible to deny the use of it. Not to defend the lengths that the insurance companies go through to follow this to its logical co

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Maureen
Voter registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I can give you 113 convictions from one city in 2008. Those were the cases > that were prosecuted. There were many more suspected cases that were not > sent to trial or had the st

RE: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
What does a poll have to do with whether or not it is an actual issue? It only shows that a lot of people were supped into believing it is an actual problem to distract them from real issues. How many of those 118 voter fraud cases would have actually been solved by an ID? Most voter fraud issu

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The only real issue with voter id is that its a fake issue, intended to give the republicans a way of suppressing the vote of those who are most likely to vote against the Republican party. " A poll conducted by the Washington Post during July 2012 found that 74% of respondents favor voter id.

RE: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I was with Blackmoor Keep (Lake Charles, LA)back when it was a shire. We used to hang out with a lot of folks from Antseorra...the Barony of Bordermarche (from TX). Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-4

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I pay too much to be treated like this." The insurance industry is special. They do everything possible to convince people of the importance of having insurance and then after purchase, do everything possible to deny the use of it. J - The individual who can do something that the world want

RE: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I have been with progressive for a while and have only had 1 claim with them and that all went pretty smoothly. I really don't have any complaints about them...plus Flo is pretty cool LOL Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravens

RE: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Scott Raley
I'm getting ready to dump a very well known insurance company myself for my home and auto and move to a smaller one that has protected my business for the last 5 years. The well known company has treated me like crap the last couple of years and this year sent me a cancellation notice because I di

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > the FBI apparently considers the group a paramilitary > organization because we teach combat with more primitive weapons like > swords > and appears and axes... > When I can actually afford to do so after a

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Eric - what Barony I was with Castile Rouge years and years ago. I still have my armour from it - a barrel helm and coat of plates with some chain inserts. The weird thing is that the Insane Clown Posse and the Juggalos are considered domestic terrorist groups. They're suing the FBI and DHS over

RE: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I am not that paranoid...they can track me all they want...which with being a former SCA member and a political activist, I am sure they already are. For those of you unfamiliar with the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms), the FBI apparently considers the group a paramilitary organization bec

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The only real issue with voter id is that its a fake issue, intended to give the republicans a way of suppressing the vote of those who are most likely to vote against the Republican party. In 2008 for instance of the 110 million votes cast, there were 8, yes 8 cases of voter fraud, or 0.07272

Re: next time I have a coding problem

2012-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Hey we're talking male coders here, how many are not would be the question. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Or desperate and horny LOL > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com >

RE: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
It's called picking your battles. If it isn't something that is a big problem, it has a low priority to fix. We have much more important and bigger fish to fry. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486

RE: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
So how would voter id's solve that Jerry? Again...it is still a solution looking or a problem... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

RE: next time I have a coding problem

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Or desperate and horny LOL Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: Larry

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread William Bowen
There should be a Voight-Kampff for Corporations... "Citibank, you're walking along in the desert and you see a tortoise..." On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > But they are people too. > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website > Solutions wro

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread William Bowen
Comedian Matt Fisher's tumblr claiming Progressive paid a lawyer to defend his (Matt's) sister's killer (Matt's sister was insured by Progressive, had a gap policy against under insured drivers, she was killed in an auto accident by an underinsured driver who was established to be @ fault, Progres

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Robert Munn
Facebook is a black hole. You go in and time seems to stop ... you come out the other side and hours have passed in what seems like seconds. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > was evil. Now I know. > > > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/germany-facebook-must-des

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread William Bowen
> EVERYONE: Abandon your cell phones before it's too late THERE! Do you see it? A perfectly formed triple-homophone! So very rare to see one of these in the wild! *Shoots it with a tranq-dart* :-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptab

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
EriKa, I would be interested in the information that you have. I have my motorcycle insurance with Progressive. So far I have not had any issues with them at all but then I have not had to file a claim either. You can hit me up off list. sor...@gmail.com Bruce ~

Re: My stuff on remote drives

2012-08-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Speaking of multiple backups, I just ran across this via LifeHacker. Box.com (not to be confused with Dropbox) seems to do all the sync stuff you'd expect and is giving away 25GB of space free. https://www.box.com/signup/o/hellosign_25 Haven't looked into their security stuff, however. Cheers,

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Several years ago, blue cross in our state went from non profit to profit. > You want to guess how coverage has worked since then? > I just walked down and checked the mail to find a check from Blue Cross for one penny. Seriously? -Camer

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Maureen
I've written a lot of software for the insurance industry, including some of the very first electronic claims processing software back in the seventies. I'm not going to name names and open myself up to any form of liability, but I saw so much fraud and and corruption that I finally just couldn't

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
But they are people too. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >> Unfortunately, it seems that they have become pretty bad. Several years >> ago, blue cross in our state went from non profit t

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Unfortunately, it seems that they have become pretty bad. Several years > ago, blue cross in our state went from non profit to profit. You want to > guess how coverage has worked since then? > Corporations have no soul! http://www.youtu

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Erika L. Rich
I can't speak about the experience at "other" insurance companies, only the one hubby worked for... and I can't go into details on here. And I could go on for hours about some of it ... :) Email me separately if you're really curious. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Hey Erik

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Erika L. Rich
As an aside, I do like Progressive's commercials. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-co

No Criminal Case Is Likely in Loss at MF Global

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
No Criminal Case Is Likely in Loss at MF Global A criminal investigation into the collapse of the brokerage firm MF Global

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I'm sorry - but insurance companies are evil and suck, and it sucks we need them at all. " Unfortunately, it seems that they have become pretty bad. Several years ago, blue cross in our state went from non profit to profit. You want to guess how coverage has worked since then? "Such a Catch-

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"still waiting..." Me too. J - Protection of the environment has become the principal tool for attack against the West and all it stands for. Protection of the environment may be used as a pretext to adopt a series of measures designed to undermine the industrial base of developed nations. It

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread GMoney
Hey Erika, what did Progressive do that was worse than what other insurance companies were doing? What were some of the "progressive way" things that irked your hubby? (If you're free to discuss them) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Being privy to the behind the scen

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
still waiting... On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Lets make it easy on you, 2 citations from reputable peer reviewed scientific > journals." > > Reputable? > > Uhhh. > > That would be one of the problems with these bogus studies you cite from > time to time. You would d

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I wonder what became of that poor child" He doesn't know. Hopefully, it was adopted by a good family. Probably a good chance since it was a baby. What makes it worse is that they got to keep the baby for a month or so before it was taken. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the othe

Re: Life With Progressive

2012-08-16 Thread Erika L. Rich
Being privy to the behind the scenes goings on when my hubby worked for one of the Big Box insurance companies, I am not surprised. In fact Progressive is partly responsible for the overall deterioration and downfall of employee moral at hubby's company because they brought in numerous ex-Progress

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > My father-in-law is a single child. When he was a teenager, someone left a > baby on his family's porch with a request for them to raise the child. His > parents were well respected in the neighborhood. > > The state would not let them

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Based on what I've seen, there is not a single state agency anywhere that is capable of removing children from their parents and actually providing decent care for them. " Absolutely. And it has become a red tape nightmare to adopt. As has been stated before, it's easier and cheaper to go to V

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > The relational database has made tracking so easy. Combine that with > cheap storage and it is easy to see how so much of your life can be > catalogued and kept forever. Who do I call to find out the name of that bar I went to last weeken

Re: next time I have a coding problem

2012-08-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > i read it on the internet, it must be true... > ...and if it claims to be associated with a hot woman, there is no way that could be fake at all right? -Cameron ... ~| O

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"EVERYONE: Abandon your cell phones before it's too late" May as well abandon your pc as well. And make sure not to log in to any more websites on other PC's. Ditch those consumer discount and loyalty cards loved by grocery stores. Don't use your debit or credit cards. Make sure your care

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread GMoney
You just jumped 1000 points on the cool meter! EVERYONE: Abandon your cell phones before it's too late On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Don't have a cell enabled tablet. No smart phone either. >

Re: this is really sick

2012-08-16 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Maureen wrote: > (and that a credit score is the Number of the Beast) > Poppycock. My credit score is 665, and it's only going up! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.ama

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Maureen wrote: > Doesn't matter. If you've bought any new clothes in the last five > years, they come with a chip. > I lost my wallet, I'm using my passport as ID right now, they know where I'm at at all times ;-) ~

Re: I suspected facebook

2012-08-16 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Dana wrote: > > cell phone tower tracking is so 2010. Only accurate to within a hundred > yards or so. GPS can pinpoint your location no not only which store but > also which aisle. Sadly enough, I'm not joking. > > Not exactly... They can but still need a warra