> most people like Brittney (puke) Spears and all the vomit sounding
> mainstream crap...
>
> That audience, tasteless as they typically are, incidentally
> are totally
> obedient... so no worry about sales staying with them of course...
Welcome to a democracy then. In other words - if people p
s just the same?
-paris
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:56 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
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That is because there are two different things you are buying. Th
3 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
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>
> I love capitalism... The art of more for me Nick :)
>
> What product do you ever buy where you are so limited... Does your
> lawnmower
> dictate that you can't
, 2002 10:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
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Amen...
I have a proximate thought that is... Mall culture, the Walmart marketplace,
is so cheap and corny that any wazoo can consume... so pilfering goods from
this mall of Americ
to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
CNET.com
You know when we moved from albums to tapes and then CD's, some of the
mystique of the object got lost in the shuffle - I think. But that is still
there and I think more than ever these days it is becoming important. So
with th
hursday, August 22, 2002 10:33 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
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> it's not a matter of proving money loss.. its a matter of being
> anti-competitive... its about abusing privileges to conduct in
commerce..
> its about ille
You know when we moved from albums to tapes and then CD's, some of the
mystique of the object got lost in the shuffle - I think. But that is still
there and I think more than ever these days it is becoming important. So
with the album/CD you get Photos, artwork, lyrics and other little extras,
eve
2, 2002 9:22 AM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News - CNET.com
>>
>>most people like Brittney (puke) Spears and all the vomit sounding
>>mainstream crap...
>>
>>That audience, tasteless as they typica
their own albums or doing the Indie circuit...
Die Hollywood Die.
-paris
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:57 AM
To: CF-Community
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>
> it's not a matter of proving money loss.. its a matter of being
> anti-competitive... its about abusing privileges to conduct in
commerce..
> its about illegally controlling assets you bought
>
> Sure if someone sell a copy of something and makes money they should
be
> liable to buy/reimbur
Just read my post...that didn't make sense. Should be because of
things like 15% breakage fees.
--
jon
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Thursday, August 22, 2002, 10:15:58 AM, you wrote:
JH> First, concert proceeds are where artists make their money. Record
JH> sales all go to the company, because of
: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:03 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
CNET.com
I just want to ditto Nick's comment. The thing that a lot of people on
the net seem to think is "I don't like this license so I ignore it."
Tha
It's all well and good for a company to be stupid, but legislating that
stupidity at the expense of the will of the public is another matter. When
the CSS encryption came out, Lawrence Lessig referred to it as "Code is
Law". By preventing copying, the CSS encryption code violates the Fair Use
prov
Message -
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:56 AM
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> So you are saying that because they aren'
o: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
CNET.com
So you are saying that because they aren't loosing money it is legal?
I would say the companies are loosing a little money on single sales
more than anything. But they make up for it by rai
First, concert proceeds are where artists make their money. Record
sales all go to the company, because of the 15% "breakage" fees, which
are a standard parts of roylaties. From the old days when records
broke a lot...now all it does is reduce artists portion of the
royalties by 15%. How often do
The Senator from Disney, Fritz Holling's is a Democrat. He is one of
the most senior Democrats and receives a ton of funding from the RIAA
and the MPAA. He alone got $300,000 from them in his last election.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,47296,00.html
The article also mentions that during 20
-Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:58 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech
> News - CNET.com
>
>
> You are purchasing a license to a piece of
You are purchasing a license to a piece of music, by making that
purchase you agree to the terms of the contract.
Just like software, you have a single license for a single computer. You
may or may not be able to make a backup copy. Same thing with music, you
don't like the license, wait for the
>
> I am not arguing that piracy should create innovation... And
> I don't believe
> in a cup of free tea either...
Actually, I _do_ think innovation should have been their response - not
legislation. But again - there is no law requiring companies to be
intelligent. Look at how the movie indus
everybody else does.
> -Original Message-
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:20 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
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>
> This is exactly the reason w
ent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:32 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News -
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> The Republiclans are at it again.. Defending an industry that has
> essentially proven to be recession proof and that can't
> really substantiate
> The Republiclans are at it again.. Defending an industry that has
> essentially proven to be recession proof and that can't
> really substantiate
> any claims related to losses due to file sharing/swapping...
Oh come on - don't tell me the Democrats don't sell out and are purely
"Defenders of
ler.com
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-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:03 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: DOJ to swappers La
nity
> Subject: DOJ to swappers Law's not on your side - Tech News - CNET.com
>
>
> Even giving your wife, husband or SO a copy can net you five years. Isn't
> this getting a bit heavy handed.
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954591.html
>
> Don
> Even giving your wife, husband or SO a copy can net you five
> years. Isn't
> this getting a bit heavy handed.
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954591.html
>Don't the DOJ have better things to do, such as catch criminals or
>terrorists?
Errr - aren't people who take songs w/o paying for t
Even giving your wife, husband or SO a copy can net you five years. Isn't
this getting a bit heavy handed.
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954591.html
Don't the DOJ have better things to do, such as catch criminals or
terrorists?
A couple of other things, this person was speaking before a grou
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