RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Judith Dinowitz
ny hour. >(BTW my wife pointed this out when were were discussing this thread.) > >-Ben > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:44 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Egypt: Lan

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:47 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > I really (really really) hate to say this but in many cases > (well over 50%) the children of reform families drift away > from the faith. > As for who&

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2002-04-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
-Ben > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:22 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > > > > re: "culture" not religion - no matter, you be good people! >

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
d take-out!" Fortunately, he wasn't offended, thought it was a crack-up. -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:22 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > >

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2002-04-08 Thread Beth F
> > re: "culture" not religion - no matter, you be good people! Thank you. > > re: Bat Mitzvah dissuasion - bummer it was slanted Well, I don't know that I really wanted one but it burned me that my mother dismissed my bat mitzvah as unneccesary when my brothers was required. Very sexist of he

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2002-04-08 Thread Michael Corrigan
, IL 60148 630-627-5055 ext.-136 630/627-5255 Fax - Original Message - From: Braver, Ben To: CF-Community Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods Michael, thanks for a very interesting reply. I'll bet there are folks, though, who de

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
y "culturally" not religiously. We talked about 4 sects within Judaism - Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and Gastronomic. -your friend Ben :-) > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:05 PM > To: CF-Community

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2002-04-08 Thread Beth F
come first. IF you can't put kids first give them to someone who can. - Original Message - From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Go

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2002-04-08 Thread William Wheatley
Message - From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > I'm a man who would LOVE to be a "loser" - > guess I need to decrease

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2002-04-08 Thread William Wheatley
CTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > I'm a man who would LOVE to be a "loser" - > guess I need to decrease the food and increase the exercise... > > :-) > -Ben > > > > -Original Message- > > F

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
Hi, Dan! -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > Countdown to comment from Ben. > > 5... > 4... > 3... >

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
onday, April 08, 2002 11:39 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > Ben, > > >The Orthodox answer was basically "by holding fast to our > laws and traditions, and not changing". The Reform answer was > basically "by holdin

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:43 PM >Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > >> Yes, >> was just pulling your chain a little >> >> >> > -Original Message- >

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2002-04-08 Thread Todd
> Yes, > was just pulling your chain a little Um .. I don't think that's how a breast pump works .. Todd - Original Message - From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
ROFLMAO > -Original Message- > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:17 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > I don't think that'll work too good. I've tried

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
Yes, was just pulling your chain a little > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:15 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > Um, did you ever hear the word BREAST PUMP >

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2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
| > >>|Because she is a pitiful codependent freak. > >>| > >>|- Original Message - > >>|From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>|To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>|Sent: Friday, April

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2002-04-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Being born of a Jewish mother simply means your in already. Otherwise you have to convert. That kind of makes it both. As there are specific genes that can be traced to Jews, the race part has to be true. As there are practices that others can accept onto themselves, the religion part has to be

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Beth F
> Beth- > > this is why I'm a Reform Jew. I cant' be a reform jew, I dont' believe in the religion. just the culture. > My daughter had a Bat Mitzvah - not known in Orthodoxy. > She wore a Tallit (prayer shawl) and Yarmulke. > She chanted from the Torah. interestingly enough my secular, athi

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
h, it bothers me that the Orthodoxy (particularly in Israel) tries >very hard to not only make me feel that way, but to say I am not really a >Jew. > >-Ben > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Dan Phillips
Countdown to comment from Ben. 5... 4... 3... 2... -Original Message- From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods it wouldnt get any milk out of me ;) i'm dry as a bone lol

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2002-04-08 Thread Michael Corrigan
say, though, it bothers me that the Orthodoxy (particularly in Israel) tries very hard to not only make me feel that way, but to say I am not really a Jew. -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:25 PM

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2002-04-08 Thread William Wheatley
uot;Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Um, did you ever hear the word BREAST PUMP > > - Original Message - > From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMA

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2002-04-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:44 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods >> >> >> Hm, the women have a choice in the role they play which is nice. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Judith Dino

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2002-04-08 Thread Michael Corrigan
eth F To: CF-Community Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Um, did you ever hear the word BREAST PUMP - Original Message - From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Beth F
Um, did you ever hear the word BREAST PUMP - Original Message - From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Ummm, how ya gonna get him t

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
Ummm, how ya gonna get him to breast feed? It's healthier for the kid... > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:43 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > My goal is to

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-08 Thread Braver, Ben
might need breast-feeding etc. at any hour. (BTW my wife pointed this out when were were discussing this thread.) -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-07 Thread Beth Fleischer
I always say that but dont' really mean it. Erika means it. - Original Message - From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Beth-

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-07 Thread Braver, Ben
Beth- thought you were never gonna have kids? -Ben -Original Message- From: Beth Fleischer To: CF-Community Sent: 4/4/2002 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Hm, well maybe it is sexist, depends on your family: - Would your son serve you with a small pitcher to wash your

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-06 Thread Judith Dinowitz
--- > > > > >>|-Original Message- > > >>|From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >>| > > >>|Because she is a pitiful codependent freak. > > >>| > > >>|- Original Message - >

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2002-04-06 Thread Beth Fleischer
came back Sadly, she may DIE before she leaves this guy. - Original Message - From: "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Having

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2002-04-06 Thread Howard Owens
is on Profiles II if you want to give it a listen. H. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods Having been in a very, very long (8 years), good/bad relation

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2002-04-06 Thread Todd
> Having been in a very, very long (8 years), good/bad relationship with a man > who has a gambling problem, that codependency thing it's a hard thing > to shake. > > We know the man is a loser...or should I say, not right for us, but we love > them. We think they need us, because nothing els

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-06 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| >>|Because she is a pitiful codependent freak. >>| >>|- Original Message - >>|From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>|To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>|Sent:

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-06 Thread Howard Owens
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 11:17 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods - Original Message - From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:38 PM Sub

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-06 Thread Beth Fleischer
> There are men who do the home daddy thing. I don't see anything wrong with > as long as both agree. I could not do it. I have to work to get away from > the house, friends and family. I love my finesse' dearly, but sometimes I > need time away which is why I work. This is why I couldn't ever b

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-06 Thread Beth Fleischer
- Original Message - From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Last time I checked, you can't really choose to have a baby witho

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-06 Thread Beth Fleischer
Because she is a pitiful codependent freak. - Original Message - From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Why does she stay with this l

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2002-04-06 Thread Beth Fleischer
My parents are older than my peers and less traditional. It has to do with personal choice, not age. - Original Message - From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:20 PM Subject: RE: Egy

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2002-04-06 Thread LANCASTER, STEVEN M. (JSC-OL) (BAR)
Technology NASA/JSC 281-244-2444 (voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 12:39 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods Last time I checked, you can't really choose to have a bab

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Howard Owens
or abuse them or use them. Good luck finding that guy. H. -Original Message- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:55 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods I forgot the kicker- he spends all her money on drugs too - Original Mes

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2002-04-05 Thread Howard Owens
Message- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Well it IS sexist - against women or men because I think that women and men should have the same choices in order for it not to be sexist. For example:

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2002-04-05 Thread Howard Owens
EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:07 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods H, as long as its her CHOICE to be the domestic one, I have no problem with it. When its the man's choice it pisses me off. I know some really independent, professional women who are v

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > > >Then you aren't raising your kids with sexist values. I think its good > > >because it gives them more options. > > But by definition I am. I tell Moshe

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Why not, I am. ;) > What if your son grows up and decides that he wants to be a mommy too ;) > > Todd > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Frid

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2002-04-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Seems to me that friend's husband is thinking he has a pretty good deal, > she supports him, cleans up af

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
I forgot the kicker- he spends all her money on drugs too - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Seems to m

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2002-04-05 Thread Todd
What if your son grows up and decides that he wants to be a mommy too ;) Todd - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the

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2002-04-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Seems to me that friend's husband is thinking he has a pretty good deal, she supports him, cleans up after him, etc. It sounds like he has a servant rather than a wife. larry At 09:46 AM 4/5/02 -0900, you wrote: > > Wait a minute. What about when a woman marries a man who tells her that >it

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
April 05, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > >Then you aren't raising your kids with sexist values. I think its good > >because it gives them more options. > But by definition I am. I tell Moshe to put on his Yarmulka, something Hinda doesn't have to do.

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
>Then you aren't raising your kids with sexist values. I think its good >because it gives them more options. But by definition I am. I tell Moshe to put on his Yarmulka, something Hinda doesn't have to do. I don't dress Hinda in pants nor short dresses due to the laws of modesty. Moshe has to s

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
> I wasn't taking it as an accusation. I was just looking at the word with all the bias and baggage it carries and deciding that I just don't understand its usage. I know someone who was so tied to it that I couldn't write a single sentence without her blasting me for being a sexist patriarch (ano

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
At 02:29 PM 4/5/02, you wrote: >> And that's bad? I guess I'll never understand this sexism and gender bias >thing. > > >Bad for you, I think! > >but I was just discussing if its sexist or not, not making any accusations. I wasn't taking it as an accusation. I was just looking at the word with all

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
> And that's bad? I guess I'll never understand this sexism and gender bias thing. Bad for you, I think! but I was just discussing if its sexist or not, not making any accusations. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
hem a responsiblity based on gender. > >- Original Message - >From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:50 AM >Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > >> Hm,

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Hm, according to the definition I don't think it is sexist. > 1.Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women. > 2.Attitudes, conditions, or

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
MAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:01 AM >Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > >> Does it have to be either? It's a requirement for one and a choice for

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2002-04-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Ok...so whatever you believeit wasn't intended for men to bear children. -Original Message- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:51 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Since I dont' believe mother nature had intent

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > Well it IS sexist - against women or men because I think that women and > men > should have the same choices in order for it not to be sexist. &g

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt
I would be happy to stay home with my son :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:41 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Oh, the comments that rolled through my head on that remark! ;) I'll lea

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:13 AM >Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > >> It starts getting different when kids enter the picture. When we got >married, we were both working. When Judith g

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
> Wait a minute. What about when a woman marries a man who tells her that it is her responsibility to cook, clean, etc.? Isn't her choice to marry a man like that the same as choosing it herself? Do you take issue with what she's being told to do or the fact that she's being told to do anything?

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2002-04-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt
ity Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Well it IS sexist - against women or men because I think that women and men should have the same choices in order for it not to be sexist. For example: the fact that I can choose to have a baby and you cant' is sexist. Its also unalterable

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
My goal is to have a househusband when kids enter the picture. - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > It

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
ssage - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Does it have to be either? It's a requirement for one and a choice for the other. It's just

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Michael Corrigan
eing told to do anything? Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 Lombard, IL 60148 630-627-5055 ext.-136 630/627-5255 Fax - Original Message - From: Beth F To: CF-Community Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
e time.he cooks >pretty badly. > >I do not however do as much cleaning as he does. I feel somewhat guilty >about that but he cares if its clean and I dont'. > > >- Original Message - >From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Com

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:02 AM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > I was a bachelor until I was 31, so I know how to cook and clean and sew, > etc. I don't mind cooking a couple of meals a week (usually on the > weekends). I enjoy it. But I'm thankfu

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Does it have to be either? It's a requirement for one and a choice for the other. It's just the way it is. >I am not sure if thats sexist for women or against them. > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.c

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
Hm, the women have a choice in the role they play which is nice. - Original Message - From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Women

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2002-04-05 Thread Beth F
> I'm going to leave the exact answer to that for Judith. My understanding is that they either have to or should pray during the day but are not required to do all that men have to (we're talking over an hour total a normal day for men). My understanding is probably not 100% correct as I'm not lea

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Howard Owens
day, April 05, 2002 7:50 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods Judith, (and everyone) Thank you for these postings. I find them fascinating. I wonder why the public school system here in the US doesn't spend a little time on teaching about religion, in a comparative relig

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
of my jobs). > > > > Really? > > > > So orthodox jewish women can pray but dont' have to? Except over food? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[E

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2002-04-05 Thread Michael Corrigan
30-627-5055 ext.-136 630/627-5255 Fax - Original Message - From: Howard Owens To: CF-Community Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods I was a bachelor until I was 31, so I know how to cook and clean and sew, etc. I don't mind cooking

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2002-04-05 Thread Howard Owens
oesn't cook on days she has to work (part-time)). H. -Original Message- From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:09 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods In Samoan culture, women are not allowed in the kitchen. It's is

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-05 Thread Michael Corrigan
riginal Message - From: Michael Dinowitz To: CF-Community Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods As my son does fight with my daughter to give me a book or do something for me, I'd say yes, he would. Actually, my son is the sensitive one whil

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Judith Dinowitz
odox jewish women can pray but dont' have to? Except over food? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:41 PM

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2002-04-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
gt; > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > > For Christians this is tr

Re: Egypt Land of the Gods showing again

2002-04-04 Thread Todd
Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: Egypt Land of the Gods showing again > Whole day..well from 4pm Eastern till 8pm eastern on Sunday 28th

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Beth Fleischer
Really? So orthodox jewish women can pray but dont' have to? Except over food? - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land o

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Oh, on a totally different note, I was in Shul at the end of the holiday and noticed the bekasha the Rabbi was wearing. A bekasha is a long black coat that one would wear but not as an outdoor thing, kind of like a long suit jacket. The one the Rabbi was wearing had lightning bolts and atoms, v

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
For Christians this is true but for Jews its different. Before the meal there's a blessing on the food to be eaten and after there's thanks for what was eaten and all. During holidays (and Shabbos) the meals are more formal deals with a blessing over wine (or grape juice), then a washing of the

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Beth Fleischer
pe of stuff. He shunned dolls too. - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > As my son does fight with my daughter

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
>my daughter 'serving' me with a small pitcher to wash my hands before we said the grace after >meals. after meals? forgive my ignorance, i thought grace was said before meals ~~ Stephenie __ This list and all House of Fus

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
, but I would like them to be able to make > that choice and not have it decided by me. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Beth Fleischer
- From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Any time. Women's issues are one of the major things held against Orthodox Jews and usually

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:17 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > > > > They count, but not in that respect. Again, its a difference > > in perspective. Men HAVE t

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Braver, Ben
Thanks for the explanation! -Ben > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:17 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > They count, but not in that respect. Again

RE: Egypt Land of the Gods showing again

2002-04-04 Thread Braver, Ben
Thanks, 'Gel -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:24 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Egypt Land of the Gods showing again > > > Whole day..well from 4pm Eastern till 8pm east

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
; > > -Original Message- > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:56 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > > > > I believe (lots of more jewish than me people here to correct

Egypt Land of the Gods showing again

2002-04-04 Thread Angel Stewart
Whole day..well from 4pm Eastern till 8pm eastern on Sunday 28th of April. Wheee! :) -Gel __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://w

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread Braver, Ben
Todd- that suct. -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:07 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > Well, I guess that's why they sometimes are called sects. > &g

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread Todd
Well, I guess that's why they sometimes are called sects. Todd - Original Message - From: "BethF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > I thin

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread Braver, Ben
that was to bad, it was terrific ohmygosh I think I'm contagious 8-) > -Original Message- > From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:22 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > >

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread Braver, Ben
ent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:32 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods > > > I think thats correct. > > One of the reasons I choose to be no religion is that most > of them are > sexist. > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop > Merlin MTB

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
> AFAIK in Orthodox Judiasm, women still don't count > Hope I'm wrong What? They walk into stores and say "I want some potatos" The clerk then asks "How many?" And they have to answer "Some, I'm not allowed to count" Philip Arnold Technical Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedi

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread BethF
: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > 10 men, called a Minyan. > > AFAIK in Orthodox Judiasm, women still don't count > Hope

RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread Braver, Ben
10 men, called a Minyan. AFAIK in Orthodox Judiasm, women still don't count Hope I'm wrong -Ben > -Original Message- > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:56 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods &

Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods

2002-04-03 Thread BethF
MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchorage, Alaska - Original Message - From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:29 AM Subjec

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