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"I'm pretty sure that the Klan was founded by racists." Yep. But I repeat myself. J - The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern. - Lord Acton ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

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"Awesome quotes" I got a million of them. What's I find amazing is the insight so many leaders from around the world and from so many different era's had about class envy, government bureaucracy, and loss of freedom. It's almost like they knew what was coming. J - The state is that great fi

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Wasn't the Klan founded by Americans? <_< >_> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Wasn't the Klan formed by the Dems?" > > Absolutely. > > > > J > > - > > You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. > You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. >

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I'm pretty sure that the Klan was founded by racists. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Wasn't the Klan formed by the Dems?" > > Absolutely. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.ama

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Awesome quotes > You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. > You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. > You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich. > You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money. > You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down t

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"Wasn't the Klan formed by the Dems?" Absolutely. J - You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich. You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money. You cannot help

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Roberts swore him in that's a separate issue. Each party has to certify that their candidate is eligible by law to be president as per the constitution. All states certified McCain and every other presidential candidate. For some strange reason the removed the "eligible" portion of the text form 4

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:27 AM, morgan l wrote: > I don't follow them, I looked into them because they originally made some > interesting claims. I dismiss their claims because, in the face of evidence > and reason, they still make claims that are simply not true. So you looked into some clai

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Again Sam is being misleading. Saul Alinsky was a 60's civil rights > activist. Sam seems to forget that the so called opponents were > conservative groups at the time who were very against civil rights for > all. You know, such groups a

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"> I for one want to know why he wasn't certified by the DNC in any state > but Hawaii." If he was on the ballot, he was certified. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anth

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The first time asking...you are right. it's after it is widely publicised that he has been certified as eligible and that he is indeed, a naturally born US citizen, then one becomes a loon, On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Sam wrote: > > That's why people are asking questions. > He was certifi

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Frrom what I read, most state only require that the candidate say "I am eligible" and that is it. But it also looks like Justice Roberts...hardly an ally...certified him as a secondary certification. To continue on this asinine birther path is...well...asinine and shows a lack of intellectual ho

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Sam wrote: > > > I'm confused, you follow the birthers and yet think everything they > claim has no merit? > Glad I was able to show you at least one item. > I don't follow them, I looked into them because they originally made some interesting claims. I dismiss t

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Again Sam is being misleading. Saul Alinsky was a 60's civil rights activist. Sam seems to forget that the so called opponents were conservative groups at the time who were very against civil rights for all. You know, such groups as the Klan, companies that refused to serve blacks, etc. That said

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:22 AM, morgan l wrote: > I don't read many liberal writings, so that explains that. My apologies for > not being as well-educated as you; my family was and is poor, and college > was out of the question. I've worked my entire adult life just to survive, > and after 20

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:08 PM, morgan l wrote: > > > I used hyperbole for exaggerated effect. Not quite the same thing. > > Yeah it is. > Must be so, Sam says so. > And I have no idea who Alinsky is, and I don't really care. I suspect that >

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That's why people are asking questions. He was certified eligible in Hawaii. Every other state left off the "legally qualified to serve" portion. Why is that? I personally don't give a shyte, but I don't think someone should be called a loon for asking. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Sisk, Kri

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:08 PM, morgan l wrote: > I used hyperbole for exaggerated effect. Not quite the same thing. Yeah it is. > And I have no idea who Alinsky is, and I don't really care. I suspect that > is an attempt to discredit what I say as not even being my opinion, but > rather a c

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27, 2010 3:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. He was not certified as eligible to be president by any state other than Hawaii. McCain was. I wonder why, and he spends so much money to defend his right not to show the cert. Odd that :P On

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, morgan l wrote: > > > > People like me? Really? And what kind of person am I? You wouldn't have > the > > first clue. > > The kind of person that uses talking points with wild accusations to > discredit others. I t

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Nice. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I'm just the voice of reason, you can continue to ignore it if you chose" > > It would have been more dramatic if you would have said: > > "I'm just the voice of reason crying in the wilderness." ~~~

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:11 PM, denstar wrote: > >> The kind of person that uses talking points with wild accusations to >> discredit others. I think it's from the Alinsky book. I don't need to >> know anything about you since I just witnessed you doing it. > > I bet you can tell a good book by

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"The only differences between Conservatives and Liberals are: 1) which rights they want to take from the people 2) which economic segment of the population they want to give tax breaks to vs. which segment they want to raise taxes on 3) how they want to spend the tax revenue. Very nice. I wo

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"I'm just the voice of reason, you can continue to ignore it if you chose" It would have been more dramatic if you would have said: "I'm just the voice of reason crying in the wilderness." J - The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, morgan l wrote: >> >> People like me? Really? And what kind of person am I? You wouldn't have the >> first clue. > > The kind of person that uses talking points with wild accusations to > discredit others. I think it'

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Maureen wrote: > > You have not convinced a man just because  you have silenced him. I didn't silence anyone, that was Judah and Grant. The facts played out as I said they would. > And I find you accusing others of intolerance to be ironic in the extreme. I'm j

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, morgan l wrote: > > People like me? Really? And what kind of person am I? You wouldn't have the > first clue. The kind of person that uses talking points with wild accusations to discredit others. I think it's from the Alinsky book. I don't need to know anything

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You have not convinced a man just because you have silenced him. And I find you accusing others of intolerance to be ironic in the extreme. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > Many on this list are extreme lefties and can't tolerate people that > are not. I hope that hitting them ha

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People like me? Really? And what kind of person am I? You wouldn't have the first clue. In this particular case, there are relatively few facts behind the "Birther's" claims, all of which have been refuted by multiple sources, both in the media and by the Government of Hawaii. There's nothing lef

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really say that asking Obama for his birth certificate is racist because >> McCain was asked the same thing. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] >> > Sent: Mon 7/26/2010 11:55 AM

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:22 PM, morgan l wrote: > > But that's the gist of the whole 'birther' argument--that this was a > conspiracy to get Obama into the White House. And it is stupid. But people > believe it, and you spout their beliefs like you're one of those that do. I > can't say if you d

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But that's the gist of the whole 'birther' argument--that this was a conspiracy to get Obama into the White House. And it is stupid. But people believe it, and you spout their beliefs like you're one of those that do. I can't say if you do or not, but you certainly argue the point as though you do

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, morgan l wrote: > > He's spending money fending off frivolous lawsuits, as Jerry posted a > timeline showing. Justice Roberts of the Supreme Court certified him, and > the SC declined to hear any of the suits because they were and are without > merit. That might

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All state always certify a presidential candidate. It's in the constitution. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > Maybe because no other state could certify it because he wasn't born in any > other state besides HI?  Most of the lawsuits were suits agaisnt the > frivolous laws

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He's spending money fending off frivolous lawsuits, as Jerry posted a timeline showing. Justice Roberts of the Supreme Court certified him, and the SC declined to hear any of the suits because they were and are without merit. Keep your blinders on if you want, but the facts are there. Nevermind.

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Maybe because no other state could certify it because he wasn't born in any other state besides HI? Most of the lawsuits were suits agaisnt the frivolous lawsuits agaisnt the crazy woman that started the birther craze with her fake birth certificates...all of which were easily debunked. Eric On

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > 2 points... > > 1.  The short form is all that HI keeps as thier digital record (they no > longer keep physical copies). They said the destroyed it than they said they have it. Then they said the governors seen it. Which is it? > 2.  Many

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He was not certified as eligible to be president by any state other than Hawaii. McCain was. I wonder why, and he spends so much money to defend his right not to show the cert. Odd that :P On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It's the fact that they keep asking for it becaus

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > ... > don't think it proves anything.  Some people have grabbed onto it though. I wish they'd spend their time and money challenging the wiretapping stuff instead. "toop toop" =DeN -- Without doubt, machinery has greatly increased the num

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can't > really say that asking Obama for his birth certificate is racist because > McCain was asked the same thing. > > > > > > > > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > > Sent: Mon 7/26/2010 11:55 AM >

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2 points... 1. The short form is all that HI keeps as thier digital record (they no longer keep physical copies). 2. Many teabaggers, republicans, etc have accused Obama of saying that the birthers were racists, when, as you pointed out, he never said that. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM,

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king Obama for his birth certificate is racist because > McCain was asked the same thing. > > > > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > Sent: Mon 7/26/2010 11:55 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Gods. The US policy is now s

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First off, let me say that I think the birth certificate issue is pointless. The issue of his citizenship disqualifying him is ridiculous. What should have disqualified him is his adamant belief in redistribution of wealth and his affiliation with anti-American radicals, but that's a debate for a

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On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Maureen wrote: > > This is simply and absolutely untrue.  Obama provided his birth > certificate immediately, and has never claimed racist was a factor in > being asked for it. He released the short form which is not even accepted in Hawaii for identification. Th

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Appapently I have been misinformed if that's the case. I didn't research that point. I suppose -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right

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ause McCain was > asked the same thing. > > > > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > Sent: Mon 7/26/2010 11:55 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. > > > > >

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26/2010 11:55 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. McCain was born in Panama while his father was stationed at Farfan Naval Air Station in the Canal Zone...but since that is considered to be US territory (the naval base), he is a citizen. ---

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This is simply and absolutely untrue. Obama provided his birth certificate immediately, and has never claimed racist was a factor in being asked for it. Statements to the contrary originated with the so-called birthers, and have nothing to do with reality. I expect the level of disinformation f

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You think he was a terrible president? And here I thought it was just the moonbats that didn't like him. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:41 PM, G Money wrote: > > > I can't help it. The memory is too ingrained. He'll always be a great > president in my mind, even if he was a really terrible president

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On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Sam wrote: > > I voted for him twice. > > I loved Reagan.but then, I was 4 when he started his term, and 12 when he left office. At that age, I liked watching his speeches because he seemed like a nice old grandfather telling me that everything was going to

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I voted for him twice. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Were you even alive when he was president? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-

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mmunity > Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. > > > Which is worth less than nothing > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> No...that was based on personal observation. > > > > ~~

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Were you even alive when he was president? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. Which is worth less than nothing On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1

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Which is worth less than nothing On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > No...that was based on personal observation. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antholog

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No...that was based on personal observation. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. He was president until 1989 and diagnosed with

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To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > McCain was asked for his birth certificate as well. There was something > about the possibility of his being born in Panama. The difference is >

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He was president until 1989 and diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 1994. It wasn't apparent at the end of his term. He was sharp as a whip as he left office. You're referring to lies spread by Regan to undermine his presidency. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > He wasn't an i

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I'm a little late to this, but I feel the same, but different. Skin colour is actually an incredibly accurate descriptor. The problem is that there is a whole bunch of baggage that goes along with using skin colour that way. My wife used to live in Trinidad and Tobago for a number of years. It's

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That's funny Jerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:46 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. "There were times over his presidency, a lot of times, where

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Or the we are bombing Russia incident with Reagan... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. "He delivers speeches, more often tha

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He wasn't an idiot...he had Alzheimer's...and it was very apparent near the end of his first term. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Med

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And how do we know that isn't a plant by the tea party? -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. "I haven't seen any ra

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On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > McCain was asked for his birth certificate as well. There was something > about the possibility of his being born in Panama. The difference is > that McCain gladly showed his birth certificate and Obama screamed > racism Please show me the

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to go through a demonstration they were having in a bank parking lot and I didn't see any racist signs. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Gods. The US policy is now set by th

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Maureen wrote: > The problem currently is that both sides have a huge propaganda > machines that use lies, spin and disinformation to discredit anyone > with whom they disagree, often in a manner that shows no respect for > person or office.  Unfortunately, the m

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How about accepting people for how they label themselves? I hang out in a lot of communities where self identification is important. A person tells me that they think of themselves as a "he", I'll use masculine pronouns with him. Obama wants to consider himself black because he feels that that is

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So glad to hear that we are protecting our children from the stereotypes and misrepresentations spewed by the Media. Who is protecting us adults, the ones who should know better? Again, as individuals we need to be cautious of allowing the media to influence our speech, thoughts and actions. Look

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"I do not refer to Tiger Woods as a 'black' golfer to my children or anyone else for that matter." Excellent. "That is how the media describes him." Exactly. "I do not refer to president Obama as the 'black' president to my children or anyone else for that matter. " Excellent. "That is ho

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > described him - they seem to have backed off on the 'African American' > tag ever since he got elected. Because it's doesn't make sense except when they're actually African American. I have a white friend that really is African-American.

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Obama is African American but I don't thing Woods is. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:05 PM, trish simon wrote: > > Tiger Woods, "One-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African > American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch." = Black? > > President Obama,  "Mother white Amer

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > Not relevant to my point. I guess I am not really sure what your point is, to be honest. > > I disagree. Obama doesn't deliver he reads. Head constantly back and > force, pauses for emphasis. It looks like an audition. Then we disagree on this.

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I still say he is far and away better than Bush when going 'off script'. We wouldn't know because he's rarely off script and when he does the press won't report it. When Bush was president the press focused on his mistakes. > There were ti

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I do not refer to Tiger Woods as a 'black' golfer to my children or anyone else for that matter. That is how the media describes him. I do not refer to president Obama as the 'black' president to my children or anyone else for that matter. That is how the media described him - they seem to have b

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > If you were truly paying attention, I gave props to Reagan as well. Not relevant to my point. > I think Obama, like Reagan, is a great speaker. I think both posses > the ability to not just read a speech, but to deliver it. Its hard for >

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Tiger Woods, "One-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch." = Black? Yeah. It's confusing: Tiger still only black golfer on PGA Tour President Obama, "Mother white American, Dad

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"Well, for starters, he is black - at least that what the media has been ramming down our throats since they fell in love with him quite a few years back." Same thing with Tiger Woods. J" Tiger Woods, "One-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native Americ

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"There were times over his presidency, a lot of times, where Bush just sounded like a fucking moron. Not saying he was a moron, but he sure sounded like one." He wasn't eloquent. Also, you had the benefit of the MSM showing every gaffe Bush made. For some reason Obama's gaffe's don't get as muc

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I still say he is far and away better than Bush when going 'off script'. There were times over his presidency, a lot of times, where Bush just sounded like a fucking moron. Not saying he was a moron, but he sure sounded like one. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "He deli

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If you were truly paying attention, I gave props to Reagan as well. I think Obama, like Reagan, is a great speaker. I think both posses the ability to not just read a speech, but to deliver it. Its hard for me to quantify the difference, but I think a lot of people can understand my meaning. A g

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"He delivers speeches, more often than not, his predecessor read them, or tried to at least." He can deliver his speeches. And deliver them well. It's when he goes off script that he sticks his foot in his mouth. The whole Joe the Plumber issue is a great example. The teleprompter is a necessa

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I think it's amazing that we can elect a black president but we can't question his spending without being called racists. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I haven't seen any racist signs. Are you sure they're not DNC plants?" > > Not out of the question. > > Check out th

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I do. Folks on this list are claiming Reagan was an idiot who could read aloud. Now you're saying you like that quality. I don't. I'm not judging Obama, just saying you need to have higher standards. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Who cares? regardless fo whether he us

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Who cares? regardless fo whether he uses a teleprompter or not or writes his own speeches or not, he is a great orator. Like him or not, you cannot take that away from him. There is a big difference between delivering a speech and reading one. He delivers speeches, more often than not, his predec

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"I haven't seen any racist signs. Are you sure they're not DNC plants?" Not out of the question. Check out the history of crashtheteaparty.org. The site has now down now for whatever reason. Probably for the negative publicity the outed owner received. >From the site: WHO WE ARE: A nationwid

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > No...it the racist signs the Tea party displays at their events that makes > them racist... I haven't seen any racist signs. Are you sure they're not DNC plants? > quit making up lies Sam.  And yes...it is racist to ask for > his birth ce

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Maybe you should look into government work. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I am not better off than I was 2 years ago, but then I would have said that > going back every 2 years up you Bush first stealing the office of president. > My better off'ness has been declining

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Did you notice he's always using a teleprompter? Makes it look easy doesn't it :) On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I will say one thing about President Obama. I may not agree with him > on a lot of issues, but damn that man can speak. It is so refreshing > to listen to hi

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] > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:46 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. > > > I feel the same way.  It seems the media is fine referring to his race > when they deem it appropriate but condemn anyone else who uses his > r

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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > However the US does have a history in > terms of racism. Remember we're only 3 generations from race based > slavery, How did they get here? Was it really an America only issue? What about us Jews? You think we're loved by all and allway

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Yep. I thought Kanye West's comment about Bush post-Katrina was totally racist. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Would you think the same thing of a black person who criticized Bush? ~| Order the Adobe C

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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > For many of > these people I think such things like the president not being born in > the US, socialism accusations etc., is nice cover for their own > racism. Would you think the same thing of a black person who criticized Bush? -- Sc

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It is possible to respect the office and not respect the holder of the office, especially if said holder is using the office for his own agenda and gain - Nixon comes to mind. In cases like that, pointing out the failure of the man is not only our right, it's our responsibility. The problem curr

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ever asked for it. Get real same and find some honesty and integrity. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM

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unity Subject: Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media. I feel the same way. It seems the media is fine referring to his race when they deem it appropriate but condemn anyone else who uses his race in a way they do not agree with. I'll be honest, I did not vote for him, bu

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"Well, for starters, he is black - at least that what the media has been ramming down our throats since they fell in love with him quite a few years back." Same thing with Tiger Woods. J - A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air. - Winston Churchill ~

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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:37 AM, trish simon wrote: > > I thought his mother was Caucasian and his father African? Personally, I > think he is a human being...I also thought the other guy would be better at > the job...but, since he is the President, he deserves some respect. More precisely, the

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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM, trish simon wrote: > > I thought his mother was Caucasian and his father African? Personally, I > think he is a human being...I also thought the other guy would be better at > the job...but, since he is the President, he deserves some respect.  He > deserves to b

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I feel the same way. It seems the media is fine referring to his race when they deem it appropriate but condemn anyone else who uses his race in a way they do not agree with. I'll be honest, I did not vote for him, but I do not think he is doing a bad job. I did not think, overall Bush did a bad

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s'All right. Generally write as much as you need to get your point across. I agree with you about the perception of people by race, i.e., President Obama's ethnicity. However the US does have a history in terms of racism. Remember we're only 3 generations from race based slavery, and the Klan and

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