We're not fishing Tuna from local streams, we fish them mostly from
the South Pacific ocean. It's a world wide issue.
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
> The point here is our national food supply has been poisoned - that's
> not a small issue. I would expect the President to be very concerned
> that
> Matthew wrote:
> For what I understand about Sarbanes-Oxley (which isn't much), I agree.
> However, it is understood that the CEO does not have his finger on every
> button. Richard Scrushy just got off, didn't he?
>
The point here is our national food supply has been poisoned - that's
not a s
> -Original Message-
> From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
>
> > That's like expecting the CEO of a company to walk
> > though the buil
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> That's like expecting the CEO of a company to walk
> though the building looking for dirty corners so he can tell the janitors
to
> get a mop to clean it.
This is exact effect of Sarb
> Sam wrote:
> Isn't that what the new energy bill is doing?
>
All of that is buraucratic speak for, "we're getting filthy rich off
of tax payers! Wee!"
"Um, yes, I, ah, um, need a million no! A BILLION dollars for,
ah, um, coal ... ah ... related ... um ... research and other stuff
a
> That's like expecting the CEO of a company to walk
> though the building looking for dirty corners so he can tell the janitors to
> get a mop to clean it.
This is exact effect of Sarbanes-Oxley.
CEOs _are_ being held accountable. The President should be, too. And
_YES_ that applied to Clinton w
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> their expensive bug. :-)
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
Cause I am a complete nerd...
Crustacean is a
Isn't that what the new energy bill is doing?
http://www.mineweb.net/sections/energy/468127.htm
The bill also authorizes a three-year $1.1 billion program
specifically intended for coal and coal-related research and
development. It establishes a $90-million, 10-year carbon capture R&D
program for
Cause I am a complete nerd...
Crustacean is a class/subphylum of arthropods (insects, spiders, crustaceans)
Mullusks are a phylum, with classes including bivalves (oysters,
clams) and cephalopods (octopi)
On 8/2/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well silly me :)
> I thought crustacean was just
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
>
> Gruss, I thought you were for small government.
>
> Really, how can you expect the
Well silly me :)
I thought crustacean was just another word for shellfish.
On 8/2/05, Jerry Johnson wrote:
> Um
>
> All but the perch are invertabrates, but not crustaceans.
>
> Scallops, clams, oysters (and octopi) are mollusks
> Lobsters and crab are crustaceans
>
~~~
" You absolutely cannot say that this governments environmental policy
has not been directly shaped by the president. And you cannot say that
the current policies aren't directly affecting the mercury levels. Can
you?
He made an issue of the Terri Schiavo case. If he has the time and
compassion fo
Then you should be scolding the FDA rather than the President.
Matthew Small
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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:48 PM
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> Matthew wrote:
> Really, how can you
> Matthew wrote:
> Really, how can you expect the President (any of them) to make an issue of
> Tuna mercury levels?
I don't understand your point. One of the things the Federal gov't is
responsible for is national security. How are toxins in our food
chain not a national security issue?
I'm n
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Hope You Don't Like Tuna
>
> Um
>
> All but the perch are invertabrates, but not crustaceans.
>
> Sca
No, but he overrode policies set by previous administrations, he
choose cabinet posts that oversee such things, he bent over backwards
to give the energy industry anything it wanted (including letting them
write their own rules) and generally set a tone that made it clear he
would back the interes
OK, I agree.
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
> I'm not blaming Mr. Bush for causing it, I'm blaming him for not doing
> anything about it. And it's not limited to any one toxin - If our
> food supply is being compromised then we should be taking steps to fix
> that.
>
~~
> Sam wrote:
> OK, your getting too far out there.
You must not understand my point which is:
Our food chain has had poison(s) introduced. Yet average Americans
and our government don't seem to care. Would we take the same
attitude if Al Quaeda had introduced the toxin?
I don't think we would
ity
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> Sam wrote:
> You're the one that made this political
>
That's true. However, I didn't make it political I just piled on, but
you're right.
> My point is the toxins in Americans has gone down not up. You picked
> o
Um
All but the perch are invertabrates, but not crustaceans.
Scallops, clams, oysters (and octopi) are mollusks
Lobsters and crab are crustaceans
On 8/2/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hehehe
>
> I was referring to his list:
> "Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab, perch, anything.
> Kevin wrote:
> Gruss, who was President in 1998 when the FDA decided to top testing
> mercury levels in tuna in order to save money?
>
As I originally said, we should blame everyone who had a hand in it.
If Mr. Clinton did, then he should be held accountable. But blame is
not productive.
Mr.
Well, gosh, I hadn't thought of it that way. In fact, I'd
ventu
- Jim
Kevin Graeme wrote:
>Wasn't that when the sleestacks were doing some genetic tinkering and
>accidentally grabbed the homosapiens test tube instead of the dinosaur
>one for brain improvement
OK, your getting too far out there.
Someone queue up the twilight zone theme song :)
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Let's us an analogy: let's say we got word that Al Quaeda had
> introduced industrial pollution into our food chain. Would we say,
> "oh well, what can one person do?"
>
~
> Sam wrote:
> You're the one that made this political
>
That's true. However, I didn't make it political I just piled on, but
you're right.
> My point is the toxins in Americans has gone down not up. You picked
> one kid that over did the tuna and blamed the Bush admin.
> The farm-raised fish
Wasn't that when the sleestacks were doing some genetic tinkering and
accidentally grabbed the homosapiens test tube instead of the dinosaur
one for brain improvement?
On 8/2/05, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A common mistake. "Crustacean" is the geologic period when dinosaurs
> were
hehehe
I was referring to his list:
"Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab, perch, anything."
All are except the perch, which is nasty anyway.
On 8/2/05, Jerry Johnson wrote:
> Do you think that tuna is a crustacean?
>
> On 8/2/05, Sam wrote:
> > I read in an old book that you should avoid cr
True, but...
"The Clinton administration proposed reducing mercury emissions in
power plants by 90 percent by 2008. But, thinking he knew better, Bush
has decided to slow that wagon down and instead is proposing to reduce
those emissions by 70 percent by 2018"
Sacramento Bee:
For five years, hea
A common mistake. "Crustacean" is the geologic period when dinosaurs
were created and walked the earth with primitive man.
- Jim
Jerry Johnson wrote:
>Do you think that tuna is a crustacean?
>
>On 8/2/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>I read in an old book that you should avoid crusta
Gruss, who was President in 1998 when the FDA decided to top testing
mercury levels in tuna in order to save money?
-Kevin
On 8/2/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not just canned fish that has the problem, it's anything that
> lives in water! ANYTHING! Scallops, clams, oysters,
> Brian wrote:
> Ok, logic tells me that i'm probably not going to die from eating tuna fish,
> and that this problem probably goes so far beyond one man, that "holding him
> accountable" seems like an exercise in futility that would do little to
> address the root cause of the problem.
>
As Pres
Do you think that tuna is a crustacean?
On 8/2/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I read in an old book that you should avoid crustaceans anyway :)
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You're the one that made this political
"Mr. Bush and his Republican friends also felt ...
And if you still don't think so, why just eat some tuna sushi and
you'll be blissfully ignorant to the Republican hand digging into your
wallet."
I read in an old book that you should avoid crustacean
> It's not just canned fish that has the problem, it's anything that
> lives in water! ANYTHING! Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab,
> perch, anything. And it's not just if it's canned, the mercury is in
> any part of any creature that lives in the water. Meaning tuna
> steaks, sushi, Sub
> Sam wrote:
> Now instead of thinking that Bush is being rapidly poisoning the
> country, lets talk about the good.
>
It's not just canned fish that has the problem, it's anything that
lives in water! ANYTHING! Scallops, clams, oysters, lobsters, crab,
perch, anything. And it's not just if it
Ooops, thanks for the correction :)
On 8/2/05, Jim Campbell wrote:
> I agree with you - eating massive amounts of canned anything will get
> you sick - I had a friend in college who actually got scurvy from a
> similar diet. Although, not mercury poisoning.
>
> Anyway, I did want to point out th
I agree with you - eating massive amounts of canned anything will get
you sick - I had a friend in college who actually got scurvy from a
similar diet. Although, not mercury poisoning.
Anyway, I did want to point out that cooking food at 2,000 degrees has,
along with nutritional loss, also has
This is just too funny.
Did you hear about the kid that died from drinking two gallons of
water in an hour? We should blame Bush for not ordering the FDA to put
warning labels an all faucets.
Now first rule of thumb, if it's sold in a can it's not that healthy!
In order to can food it needs to be
> Jerry wrote:
> Well, fortunately, the Bush administration thinks it is perfectly
> fine.
Mr. Bush and his Republican friends also felt there was a big shortage
of subsidizing energy producers but, by golly, the new energy bill
sure takes care of that!
Now keep in mind that while these subsidies
Well, fortunately, the Bush administration thinks it is perfectly
fine. You wouldn't want the power industry to lose profits (record
profits mind you) by having to meet the actual regulations, would you?
Also fortunately, there is a new Supreme Court nominee who believes
that the Fed gov has no bu
> Gel wrote:
> Umm..hello.. This is INSANE!
> Why are they still on the shelves if they are contaminated???
>
Not to metion the fact that a toxic substance has gotten into our food
chain and nobody seems to think this is a big deal. Although maybe
that's a benefit of industrial pollution: it wig
Powerful lobby?
On 8/2/05, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Umm..hello..
> This is INSANE!
> Why are they still on the shelves if they are contaminated???
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Umm..hello..
This is INSANE!
Why are they still on the shelves if they are contaminated???
On 8/1/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mercury and Tuna: U.S. Advice Leaves Lots of Questions
> Balancing Interests, Agencies Issue Guidance at Odds With EPA Risk Assessment
> A Schoolboy's Sudde
Mercury and Tuna: U.S. Advice Leaves Lots of Questions
Balancing Interests, Agencies Issue Guidance at Odds With EPA Risk Assessment
A Schoolboy's Sudden Setback
By PETER WALDMAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
August 1, 2005; Page A1
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