On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are power groups in this nation that do want to ensure that others
> are "kept down" and suppressed.
>
Like the IRS. B.
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Larry Lyons wrote:
> Or sex, or religion, or religious belief, or political ideology. What I am
> saying is that if there is a way to legitimately discriminate it will be
> used. There are power groups in this nation that do want to ensure that
> others are "kept down" and suppre
>Man you love trying to make this shit about race huh?
Or sex, or religion, or religious belief, or political ideology. What I am
saying is that if there is a way to legitimately discriminate it will be used.
There are power groups in this nation that do want to ensure that others are
"kept dow
Did I say otherwise? These are factual statements about the policies of
various countries with respect to dual citizenship, and they are offered
without editorial comment. Period.
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMNSHO that is as it should be.
>
> You can serve
munity
> > Subject: Re: McCain may not be eligible for the presidency
> >
> > See I don't think it's ambiguous at all. It simply means that you must
> > have been born a citizen. Must be at least 2nd generation.
>
> I'm not arguing... but I'm cu
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:45 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: McCain may not be eligible for the presidency
>
> See I don't think it's ambiguous at all. It simply means that you
Man you love trying to make this shit about race huh?
My opinions have nothing to do with race. They do however have to do
with commitment, culture, education and even ideology.
The difference with mine, and that taken towards minorities in the past
is that it would be color blind.
Arnie was
Nope, just different.
If you want to be here, there are legal methods of making that happen.
I even think we should afford foreign citizens more methods (military
enlistment) than are currently available.
I don't believe in racial supremacy, I do however believe in cultural
supremacy. I think
So in essence you're saying that these people are less than other Americans?
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> Larry Lyons wrote:
> > Why? Shouldn't these children have the same rights and privileges as
> others who have been born in the US? They had no say on their parents
> why punish them for their effro
> >My take.
> >
> >We need to end the practice of anchor babies.
>
> Why? Shouldn't these children have the same rights and privileges as
> others who have been born in the US? They had no say on their parents
> why punish them for their effrontery for having non-US citizens.
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Larry Lyons wrote:
> Why? Shouldn't these children have the same rights and privileges as others
> who have been born in the US? They had no say on their parents why punish
> them for their effrontery for having non-US citizens.
>
> Or are you advocating a selective citizenship.
Neither was born on American soil. While McCain had no choice about his
citizenship, Schwarzenegger chose to become a US citizen. It seems to me that
making an active choice is a better indicator of a commitment than when you
just stumble into it via an accident of birth.
As for second class ci
>My take.
>
>We need to end the practice of anchor babies.
Why? Shouldn't these children have the same rights and privileges as others who
have been born in the US? They had no say on their parents why punish them for
their effrontery for having non-US citizens.
Or are you advocating a selectiv
IMNSHO that is as it should be.
You can serve only one master.
Dana wrote:
> This is true. I obtained Canadian citizenship cards for my children who
> were born in the US a while back, just in case they should ever need or want
> them. I did the same for their elder step-brother, who was born in
Arnold was born to Austrian parents. McCain was born to a military
officer serving abroad, if you can't see the difference than I don't
know what to tell you.
I don't have a problem with 2nd class citizens, I believe in staged
citizenship, I've said so many times before, and would support a sy
12:21 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: McCain may not be eligible for the presidency
>>
>>> after all, my sister was born in Nuremberg, Germany (in the public
>>> hospital there, not on the base where my father was stationed at the
>>> time), and there'
My take.
We need to end the practice of anchor babies.
There should be 3 ways to become a citizen of the US.
1. You are born to an American parent. Father or mother, makes no
difference to me, don't care where you were born, one parent must have
been a US citizen.
2. You go through the leg
Nope, the VP must meet all the requirements of president in case the
president dies or is impeached.
William Bowen wrote:
> agreed.
>
> after all, my sister was born in Nuremberg, Germany (in the public
> hospital there, not on the base where my father was stationed at the
> time), and there's n
This is true. I obtained Canadian citizenship cards for my children who
were born in the US a while back, just in case they should ever need or want
them. I did the same for their elder step-brother, who was born in France.
This was fortunate in his case as the French do not consider him a citizen
>agreed.
>
>after all, my sister was born in Nuremberg, Germany (in the public
>hospital there, not on the base where my father was stationed at the
>time), and there's never been a question about her citizenship. She
>was born to parents who are (and were) US Citizens, done.
>
>I realize she's not
If you disallow one group simply because they had the effrontery of choosing
the wrong place to be born in you're creating second class citizens. People
who have all the duties and responsibilities of citizenship but not all of the
benefits or privileges.
btw what is the difference between McC
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:21 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: McCain may not be eligible for the presidency
>
> > after all, my sister was born in Nuremberg, Germany (in the public
&g
> after all, my sister was born in Nuremberg, Germany (in the public
> hospital there, not on the base where my father was stationed at the
> time), and there's never been a question about her citizenship. She
> was born to parents who are (and were) US Citizens, done.
I haven't been following thi
agreed.
after all, my sister was born in Nuremberg, Germany (in the public
hospital there, not on the base where my father was stationed at the
time), and there's never been a question about her citizenship. She
was born to parents who are (and were) US Citizens, done.
I realize she's not running
It wasn't just that, it was also there to prevent new immigrants that
hadn't assimilated from becoming president.
Arnie shouldn't be permitted to be president. McCain was born to a
military family abroad, he should be.
Dana wrote:
> I don't think we should be manipulating the consitution to al
I don't think we should be manipulating the consitution to allow mccain to
run or to prevent arnold from doing so. On the other hand, I think the
citizenship clause which afaik was intended to keep the British from
floating a candidate for president, has served its purpose. I'd have no
issue with t
Scott Stewart wrote:
> This sounds like a non issue
I don't know if it is a non-issue or not. I am very comfortable with
the idea that McCain is eligible to be president, I don't expect to vote
for him, but I don't feel a court will remove him from the running.
But I found the pieces focu
So you have no problems throwing out the constitution?
Its a relatively good thing, this provision, otherwise we'd have the governator
running either this election or in 4 years.
Myself I think its a very stupid provision. Given what immigrants have
contributed to the nations, the country is wa
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: McCain may not be eligible for the presidency
That's to be decided, but from what I understand apparently not. That's one
of the reasons why the US has the status of forces agreements with most
countries whe
That's to be decided, but from what I understand apparently not. That's one of
the reasons why the US has the status of forces agreements with most countries
where there's a US base, so that US laws apply to american personnel on US
bases. The state department seems to think that US forces bases
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-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:59 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: McCain may not be eligible for the presidency
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Oh give me a break.gsh.
I don't give two shits what the founding fathers meant by "natural born
citizen". There. I said it. I'm tired of having to genuflect everytime
someone utters the phrase "Founding Fathers".
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since he wasn't born on in the US.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html?nav%3Drss_politics&sub=AR
and for the wrap challenged:
http://antiwrap.com/x481b63cb855ae
McCain's Birth Abroad Stirs Legal Debate
His Eligibility for Presidency Is Questioned
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