Uh, yeah, I have some, um, beachfront property to sell you. It comes
with a free Brooklyn Bridge!
--Ben
Robert Munn wrote:
If I still lived in UTC in my old condo and worked from home, I could survive
day to day with one of those scooter thingies, although that wouldn't get me
to the beach
Cameron wrote:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/
Great post, thanks. I'm definitely not impressed with the mileage and
it's reinforcing my red herring feeling about these hybrids.
The auto industry has already done POC petrol engines capable of
delivering 70MPG or more, but the
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: More on Hybrid Cars
Cameron wrote:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/
Great post, thanks. I'm definitely not impressed
Wouldn't the hybrid Accord offer the seating room the Malibu does and offer
some increase in fuel economy? What gets me with the Accord is the Passat
looks to be about the same size in regards to passenger room and a TDI
Passat gets a bit more better mpg than the hybrid Accord.
On 5/11/05, Jim
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To: CF-Community
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Cameron wrote:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/
Great post, thanks. I'm definitely not impressed
I get my warm and fizzy feelings from riding my bike to work instead of
I get warm fizzy feelings from carbonated coffee.
--Ben
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From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:49 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: More on Hybrid Cars
Wouldn't the hybrid Accord offer the seating room the Malibu does and
offer
some increase in fuel economy? What gets me
Anyone have a link to some of thise petrol engines that got that mpg? The
only cars I have read about that got in the 70mpg range were diesel hybrids
and some of which were zero emissions cars but never made due to the added
cost and the customer base being unwilling to pay.
For instance, as
If you have no car payment and no car problems, why were you even bothering
to look into a new car? No matter what mpg it got, chances are you would be
facing the same car payment every month and no way the added savings in fuel
could make up for the added payment for the car and probably added
Aaron wrote:
Anyone have a link to some of thise petrol engines that got that mpg? The
only cars I have read about that got in the 70mpg range were diesel hybrids
The auto companies have not invested in efficiency because there's
only a small market for it. The vast majority of people want
How does it save me money going from no car payment and paying for a tank of
gas every other week to a $500/month car payment and getting a tank of gas
every third week?
It's just not economical (for us).
Might not be the only thing that's not economical - it seems hybrids
are impacting
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From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:10 AM
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If you have no car payment and no car problems, why were you even
bothering to look into a new car?
I take it you're not married
This type of technology has been around for a very long time and put in use
a few times in cars. Many years ago there was a car that you could push
buttons to select how many cylinders it would essentially run on. In recent
years besides the BMW example there also is one of the Cadialac plants,
Ah, much like my neighbors who had a perfectly running Malibu but then had
their first kid so the stay at home mom HAD to have a brand new mini van.
On 5/11/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I take it you're not married? I'm not looking into a new car - she is. ;^)
Jim Davis
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- Cynthia Dunning
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ah, much like my neighbors who had a perfectly running Malibu but then had
their first kid so the stay at home mom HAD to have
Ian wrote:
To be fair, I got my Prius used. That was the only way I could get one.
Luckily for
me it was a very lightly used 2004. So I basically consider that I have a
new car.
It's probably a great used car to buy because I'd guess members of the
Prius market segment aren't really
We had a Thunderbird that was going to cost $1500-2000 to make it a) pass
the emissions test and b) have working AC/heater. Ended up selling the thing
off and constantly look back and think should have just fixed it and kept on
chugging along because the extra money on car payments and full
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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:55 AM
To: CF-Community
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I agree, I would not have bought my Prius, if I did not need a new car
anyway. We had just paid over a thousand dollars
: Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: More on Hybrid Cars
Ah, much like my neighbors who had a perfectly running Malibu but then had
their first kid so the stay at home mom HAD to have a brand new mini van
Aaron
I'm not sure about that. I'm not a giant, but I am a solid 6'0. And the Prius
I am driving is the roomiest vehicle I have ever owned. It is much more
spacious then the Corolla that it replaced. Plus it is a hatchback, which
feels more like the station wagon I remember from my
It is all in your body build too, I am 6'2 and actually have a problem in
quite a few cars and to top that off with one kid who is 5'5 or so and the
other still in a car seat it ends up requiring a bit of back seat leg room
to make them fit.
On 5/11/05, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/11/05, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you look at the new cars that are coming out it's size (Cadillac [...]
Hybrids are also new cars that are coming out. I think you're being
very selective in the evidence you choose to present to back your
opinion..
The last time someone tried
The Hybrids have a very efficient gas motor in them and then an electric to
run on based on whatever conditions when it is applicable. Seems like some
people experience mpg ratings they do not expect after getting one and
perhaps it has to do with driving conditions they are using/in causing
On 5/11/05, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Hybrids have a very efficient gas motor in them and then an electric to
run on based on whatever conditions when it is applicable. Seems like some
people experience mpg ratings they do not expect after getting one and
perhaps it has to do
If the technology relies on a drastic change in the bulk of the consumer
base to change their driving habbits then there is certainly a flaw
somewhere. And getting people to just change probably would be the hardest
solution to pursue. But do note I am using IF a lot in this :)
I like the
On 5/11/05, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the technology relies on a drastic change in the bulk of the consumer
base to change their driving habbits then there is certainly a flaw
somewhere.
I think Hybrids and Fuel Efficient cars are still in early adopter
mode. Early adopters are
i just wish they would re-release the geo-metro.
fit me im 6'2
it got between 40-51 mpg on its whoping 3 cylinders
cost after tax around $6,500.00
all around the best car i had, for 10 years 100k miles.
if gm would just dust off there plans throw a airbag in it i would
buy 1 again in a
I actually just have no need at all right now for a new vehicle. By the time
I will have a need for one I am hoping the diesel hybrids will be on the
market since that is really the avenue I would like to pursue anyway. If I
was in the market for a new car today I'd maybe consider a Prius, I'd
Cameron wrote:
Hybrids are also new cars that are coming out. I think you're being
very selective in the evidence you choose to present to back your
opinion..
I'm talking production and sales numbers. I see a heck of a lot more
of Dodge Mangums than Prisuses and the numbers, I'm sure, prove
A much higher likelihood is that ethanol or NG replaces petrol in part
or whole until bio-diesel or ethanol is viable (not dependant on oil).
None of that involves hybrid technology nor, in my opinion, should
it.
Interesting point of view. I guess we'll see how all that works out.
-Cameron
I had a colleague who was at least 6'-4 and he drove a Prius. Loved it, too.
Aaron
I'm not sure about that. I'm not a giant, but I am a solid 6'0. And
the Prius I am driving is the roomiest vehicle I have ever owned. It
is much more spacious then the Corolla that it replaced. Plus it
My friend is 6'4 and can drive my honda with no problem, I have issues
driving it, my brother is 6'4 and he can not even get the steering wheel to
turn in my honda due to his knees.
On 5/11/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a colleague who was at least 6'-4 and he drove a
Damn, the Escape hybrid gets about 8-10 MPG more than my standard Escape. But I
only drive about 8,000 miles a year, so at $3 a gallon I would only save about
$500 a year for a vehicle that is several thousand dollars more expensive than
mine.
On 4/27/05, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/10/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn, the Escape hybrid gets about 8-10 MPG more than my standard Escape. But
I only drive about 8,000 miles a year, so at $3 a gallon I would only save
about $500 a year for a vehicle that is several thousand dollars more
expensive than
I don't drive in traffic at all, so my mileage would suck. Besides, I figure
driving 8,000 miles a year is my gift to mother earth. Believe me, if I could
work from home and drive 2,000 miles a year, I would. Given how far apart
everything is here in SoCal, I doubt I could get away with it even
On 5/10/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If someone would be nice enough to sell me their beachfront home at a
reasonable
price, I could move to the beach and just ditch the car completely.
Now THERE'S a warm fuzzy I could get behind!
-Cameron
--
Cameron Childress
Sumo Consulting
On 4/27/05, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've heard local anticdotal reports that the hybrids aren't performing
as well as originally predicted. Anyone hear/see anything about that?
Saw a thread on Slashdot just now that gives some real stats on the
milage some of the hybrids
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