Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
ngs, etc. In > > other words, more ADD. > > > > I don't know how true it is, but its an interesting theory as to why ADD is > > more prevalent in America than in Europe. > > > > Sandy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert M

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
more prevalent in America than in Europe. > > > > Sandy > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > > > I wond

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
etc. In > other words, more ADD. > > I don't know how true it is, but its an interesting theory as to why ADD is > more prevalent in America than in Europe. > > Sandy > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
I should ask my my friend the doctor of oriental medecine about this. Dana On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:36:58 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder whether there are certain fields that attract people with these > symptoms. Sitting in front of the computer all day with the opportu

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Oh please. I have not beat up anyone in a loong time. And anything I've done worse I can't be convicted for without evidence. :) > Good if you were I'd be worried - probably running for cover actually ;) > > larry > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:05:45 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > One book I read "Add a Different Perception" by Thom Hartmann > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/- > > > > > > /1887424148/

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
/1887424148/qid=1106074208/sr=1 > > > > > > -3/ref=sr_1_3/002-8620599-8030463?v=glance&s=books > > > > > > > > > > > > Theorizes that ADD is actually an inherited trait and that the > > > reason it > > > > > is &g

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
; is > > > > > more prevalent in America is that the people who came over to > > America > > > > would > > > > > have been more apt to be adventurous, willing to try new things, > > etc. > > > > In > > > > > other words,

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
; America > > > would > > > > have been more apt to be adventurous, willing to try new things, > etc. > > > In > > > > other words, more ADD. > > > > > > > > I don't know how true it is, but its an interesting theory as to

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
#x27;t know how true it is, but its an interesting theory as to why > > ADD is > > > more prevalent in America than in Europe. > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> Sandy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > > > I wonder whether there are certain fields that attract pe

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
eory as to why ADD is > > more prevalent in America than in Europe. > > > > Sandy > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: A

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
. > > I don't know how true it is, but its an interesting theory as to why ADD is > more prevalent in America than in Europe. > > Sandy > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PM > To: CF-

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > I wonder whether there are certain fields that attract people with these > symptoms. Sitting in front of the computer all day with the opportunity to > browse the Web whenver my m

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Sandy Clark
---Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD I wonder whether there are certain fields that attract people with these symptoms. Sitting in front of the computer all day with the opportunity to browse

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robert Munn
I wonder whether there are certain fields that attract people with these symptoms. Sitting in front of the computer all day with the opportunity to browse the Web whenver my mind starts to wander definitely helps me get through the day. I can spend a few minutes just loking at some random thing

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
there might be, http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Restless+Legs%22+ADHD&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N for the link challenged http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/102 larry On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:54:38 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and its funny, i didnt even realize, but afte

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
and its funny, i didnt even realize, but after reading a lot of the stuff that this list has produced, im reading that there have been correlations between RLS and ADHD soo, that might also lend some proof towards truth in the matter. tw On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:39:20 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Another brain imaging study from germany this time: J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 1999 Nov;38(11):1363-71. Atypical frontal brain activation in ADHD: preschool and elementary school boys and girls. Baving L, Laucht M, Schmidt MH. Department of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and Psych

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
accepted. I hear a lot of this stuff though, being as I have one kid that no question has it and another that is if anything worse, but she is so charismatic she just sucks everyone into going along with her. If you can't understand it, just take it on faith -- people out there have this and are he

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I aplogise if I have...I didn't mean to ;-) Just trying to get a point > across. > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 16:28 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: A

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
i never claimed that it did. just some real world empirical evidence for you :) -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread G
These look like proof to mei don't know what Neil wants. I was very skeptical of ADD when I first heard it, and I still believe that it is probably overly diagnosed. But neurological differences in the brains of ADD people is, to me, proof that something is wrong. So much of who we are and

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
e in it nor will I ever unless some nice empirical > evidence shows me that there is hard truth. > > The brain activity does not wash as again we are all different. The > arguments pro are so weak its insance. > > N > > > -Original Message- > From: Lar

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I aplogise if I have...I didn't mean to ;-) Just trying to get a point across. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 16:28 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD Neil And what if knowing the diffrence between the right and the wrong way t

watt was that? I don't get it. (was Re: Adult ADD)

2005-01-18 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:15:31 -0500, Adam Churvis wrote: > > > But the most convenient thing about David is that you can hook him up to > the > > > power grid and sell his excess Watts back to the power company. > > > Cha-ching!!! > > > Didn't he ever go through that metaphysical phase where he put

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
But it doesn't mean you have ADD?! -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 16:26 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD i have been an adult in college classes, and still found myself bored, and getting up every 10-15minutes, and

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
rong way to behave in a classroom. > > > -Original Message- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 16:06 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Adult ADD > > Agreed... ;-) > > -----Original Message-

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
e you know > the difference between the right and wrong way to behave in a classroom. > > > -Original Message- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 16:06 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Adult ADD > > Agreed...

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
g way to behave in a classroom. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 16:06 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Adult ADD Agreed... ;-) -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 16:

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
e are all different. The > arguments pro are so weak its insance. > > > N > > -Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 15:52 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > From what I see you&#x

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Adam Churvis
> > But the most convenient thing about David is that you can hook him up to the > > power grid and sell his excess Watts back to the power company. > > Cha-ching!!! > Didn't he ever go through that metaphysical phase where he put up some > resistance? You know, when kids learn about buddhism, sit

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Another one showing similar results, this time using EEG - btw I found 8 others with similar results. Nothing so far that has contradicted these finding. The point is these studies examined clinically diagnosed ADHD kids and compared them to matched non-ADHD controls. They all found profound neuro

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
I believe Adam said the Europeans call it the American disease. On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:37:45 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ? no one said it didn’t exists in Europe...its just that the US seems > to > obsessed with it. ~~~

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
Neil, I think you are being purposefully rude. I think Sam has some trolling techniques to learn. If you would READ some of the literature Larry posted, it has exactly the kind of scientific evidence you say you want. If you don't read it, is it because you are too lazy? Or are from the wrong

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here's a bit of an older brain imaging study on the topic. Again it shows statistically significant differences in the executive control systems between ADHD and non adhd kids. Annals of Clinical Psychiatry 9 (2): 81-86, June 1997 High-Resolution Brain SPECT Imaging in ADHD. Daniel G. Amen & Bla

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Agreed... ;-) -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 16:05 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD neil. i'd stop now dude. if you dont have it you wouldnt know... but it almost seems to me like you may have it as well, if you think yo

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
oh here's the email, duh. I also wanted to comment that CHADD is a highly respected organization in the field and anyone who is interested or concerned could do a lot worse than to have a look at their website. Dana On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:28:30 -0500, Sandy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'v

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
I'd quarrel with the "responsible" part. I assume this was a general practitioner? Many of them are very reluctant to prescribe amphetemines. Rather ironic since they tend to want to hand out SSRI's like candy. But yes, this was one doctor's opinion. I would suggest seeing a specialist. The alterna

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
different. The arguments pro are so weak its insance. N -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 15:52 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD >From what I see you're arguing through your prejudices. In terms of the symptoms po

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
neil. i'd stop now dude. if you dont have it you wouldnt know... but it almost seems to me like you may have it as well, if you think you can relate to all the symptoms trust me. its not a *fun* thing to have, or an excuse to be lazy, FUCK, im not lazy, i work 80-100hrs a week, is that lazy

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ll 'symptoms' posted on that > > list (or nearly all) are just indications of normal human behvaiour. If you > > could concentrate on something 100% 24/7, 365 then you would be a > > robot... > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lar

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
> Computer industry. I'm not sure. Anyway, I'll do some reading up on it... > > Like Robert Munn said, "I'm not alone" :) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 1

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
I think you're so far off in your definition of ADD as to be ridiculous. Not having ADD does not mean you're going to be focused 100% of the time. It's a lot like saying that people without depression are never sad. (But, you probably don't believe depression is real, either.) On Tue, 18 Jan 2005

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > I take it you're a professional in the area who has carefully studied > the literature base? Are you familiar with Frostig

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Dana
rlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:32:48 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What *You* pay attention (grabs the paddle

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
? no one said it didn’t exists in Europe...its just that the US seems to obsessed with it. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 15:40 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD BTW someone said that ADD is not recognized in Europe

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Ray Champagne
IL PROTECTED] >Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21 >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Adult ADD > >I take it you're a professional in the area who has carefully studied >the literature base? Are you familiar with Frostig's research in the >70's through the most recent fMRI

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
BTW someone said that ADD is not recognized in Europe. Apparently that is not the case: For instance I found this Swedish study: Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry (2001), 42:487-492 The Comorbidity of ADHD in the General Population of Swedish School-age Children Björn Kadesjö a1 and C

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
iatrics and both them agree that it targeting people like this is wrong. Not all kids/adults will The first rule of Psychiatry is to mess with peoples minds -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
st rule of Psychiatry is to mess with peoples minds -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD I take it you're a professional in the area who has carefully studied the literature base? Are yo

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Charlie Griefer
#x27; posted on that > list (or nearly all) are just indications of normal human behvaiour. If you > could concentrate on something 100% 24/7, 365 then you would be a > robot... > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 J

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
ormal human behvaiour. If you could concentrate on something 100% 24/7, 365 then you would be a robot... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD I take it you're a professional in the

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
guess since you have to pay for your > treatment it makes easy prey for these sham doctors. > > Maybe I will train up and convince everyone they have AGS : Acute > Gullability Syndrome - I could make a fortune.. ;-) > > Ka Ching Ching > > -Original Message- >

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In terms of the scientific debate on ADD and ADHD that was resolved in the early 80's. Now if there is a dispute as to whether it exists its in a political debate. larry On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:55:55 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > > I cant help it :

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
hese sham doctors. Maybe I will train up and convince everyone they have AGS : Acute Gullability Syndrome - I could make a fortune.. ;-) Ka Ching Ching -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 14:49 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adul

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Marlon Moyer
> -Original Message- > From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:29 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Adult ADD > > I've been doing a lot of reading on the subject lately since a close friend > is ADD and I am helping to coa

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Charlie Griefer
the debate over whether or not ADD is a 'real' disease (or disorder) is another reason I suggested looking into the sleep apnea. easier to get empirical evidence to support that than to support a diagnosis of ADD. On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:55:55 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robertson

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Won Lee
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > I cant help it : ADD (and I am assuming that you mean Attention Deficit > Order) is not a disease so I how can you be 'diagnosed' with it? I don't know if it is a disease in the medical sense, but I remember in college that the administration was making a big pu

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Everyone has their agenda. But the person should be up front as to their theoretical approach and licensing. Again look at the checklist that Dana provided from the CDC and DSM. The criteria if fairly strict. larry. On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:36:39 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would someo

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You should have talked to your college counsellor - many colleges now have very good programs to help people with ADD and ADHD. larry On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:17:31 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i couldnt make it through college, almost didnt make it through high school :) > > i w

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
> From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 13:52 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > Re: ADD > > This is what I was told about ADD by a doctor when I asked about being > tested. I have no medical knowledge and don't know if it&#x

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Lets see fairly intelligent and able to adapt. That's a classic situation. As a prof said to me once, ADHD is one of those things where being intelligent is drawback. You can mask the symptoms fairly easily. Its much better to be of average intelligence - things crash much faster as the kid cannot

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread G
Would someone who specializes in ADHD assessmenthave their own agenda as well? After all, its in the best interest of someone who specializes in the treatment of ADHD for there to be patients with ADHD. I dunno, i'm very suspicious of this. Does anyone know the threshold at which certain pe

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Sandy Clark
I've been doing a lot of reading on the subject lately since a close friend is ADD and I am helping to coach him (create structure and stability) since I seem to have a natural knack for it. First thing is to get a diagnosis. A good first step is to get the book "Driven to Distraction" which has

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Unfortunately all too many people have their own agendas with ADHD. Multiple causes. First get a diagnosis from a liscenced psychologist who specializes in ADHD assessments. Then an educational specialist may help by setting up a program to cover whatever deficits you may have. Drugs may work. In

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Tony Weeg
i couldnt make it through college, almost didnt make it through high school :) i would say they might be right on? i was always tooo bored in school to do good, the other kids and their DUMB questions killed me... it pained me to listen to them ask questions that i was like, DUHHH!!! however, i g

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Kevin Graeme
Didn't he ever go through that metaphysical phase where he put up some resistance? You know, when kids learn about buddhism, sit around, and chant "Ohm". -Kevin > But the most convenient thing about David is that you can hook him up to the > power grid and sell his excess Watts back to the po

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I cant help it : ADD (and I am assuming that you mean Attention Deficit Order) is not a disease so I how can you be 'diagnosed' with it? -Original Message- From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2005 13:52 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Adult ADD Re: ADD Th

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-18 Thread Won Lee
Re: ADD This is what I was told about ADD by a doctor when I asked about being tested. I have no medical knowledge and don't know if it's true or not. "If you graduated from college, at worst your ADD is so mild that no responsible doctor should prescribe medication to treat it." Reading thro

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> > What *You* pay attention (grabs the paddles). Adam has a brother > > named David! David is my son. I'm 43 and he's 21. Most people think we're brothers, and they can't believe that David's that young because of all he's accomplished already. He was a child prodigy who tested at the coll

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread David Churvis
Adam is my father - ooh! what a pretty flower! Dave - Original Message - From: "Charlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Adult ADD > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:32:48 -0700, Dana <[E

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:32:48 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What *You* pay attention (grabs the paddles). Adam has a brother > named David! > > Dana Really? David has a father named Adam. Must make for interesting Churvis family reunions :) ~

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
What *You* pay attention (grabs the paddles). Adam has a brother named David! Dana = Adam Churvis to CF-Community Show options 5:28pm (1 hour ago) > I'm starting to think that I might have adult ADD. Anyone know how you go > about getting diagnosed? Anyone else been diagnose

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Graeme
Bzzzt. /me administers electroshock therapy. -Kevin On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:20:52 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oops, yer right, it was his brother :P lolol > > Dana ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
oops, yer right, it was his brother :P lolol Dana On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:16:45 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who? > > /me smacks Dana's knuckles with a ruler > > Pay attention! > > :-D > > -Kevin > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:44:54 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Graeme
Who? /me smacks Dana's knuckles with a ruler Pay attention! :-D -Kevin On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:44:54 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously, David, if you have any references on that I'd like to see > them. ~| G

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
yeah, to refocus -- the primary care doctor will often diagnose it in children. In adults they seem to like for a psychiatrist to weigh in. There is no doubt in my mind that such a condition does exist. If it's only in America, it might be fun to speculate why. Dana On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:15:02

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Robert Munn
So, getting back to the original focus of the post, Marlon, I hope this discussion has convinced you that you are not alone and that the condtion really exists. It has made me feel a whole lot better, that's for sure. >I'm starting to think that I might have adult ADD. Anyone know how you

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Robert Munn
I agree with that, and some parents especially don't want to admit that their child has any kind of "mental issues"- too much social stigma, even today. My mother was a psychologist for years and she didn't see it. 25-30 years ago this was not a commonly diagnosed problem, I think. I'm 35, I jus

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Marlon Moyer
January 17, 2005 3:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > i was told i had symptoms, altho there was no 'official' diagnosis. a > psychiatrist I was seeing said the symptoms were there, and he > prescribed strattera. > > however, a few months later,

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Vernon
> does she get the odd feeling in the legs? or does she have periodic limb movement or something like that? She describes it like her bones are itching and you have to shake your legs or they move involuntarily to get rid of it. If she goes to bed, it gets worse Moving on to Adams point tha

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
Look at the fire truck! Hey, who saw Law and Order last night? Seriously, David, if you have any references on that I'd like to see them. I can't recall any discussion of it in a European context, but then... I haven't been looking for that. It's an interesting factoid though... Dana On Mon, 17

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Graeme
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME o, a caterpillar! -Kevin On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:28:05 -0500, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey! Who wants ice cream? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Tic

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> I'm starting to think that I might have adult ADD. Anyone know how you go > about getting diagnosed? Anyone else been diagnosed with it? There are some people who think this disease doesn't even exist. For example, if you go to Europe they call this sort of thing "an American disease" because

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
A lot of parents are in the "I don't want to label my child" mindset. I've done this rant once to often this week already but let's just say that it's a valid concern that I disagree with :P Dana On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:17:26 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thats me too :) > > im

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
hmmm should probably mention too that both my kids hated all the stimulants; said they gave them headaches. Since I homeschool they have to spend a good deal less time sitting quietly and being good than is demanded of most children and as they have gotten older the impulse control has improved to

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Weeg
thats me too :) im wondering how it slipped through the cracks for sooo long? my parents blind to it? my child is perfect nothing can be wrong with him syndrome? strange, as my parents were VERY active with me @ school, and my mother was a teachers asst. while my siblings and i were attending e

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
The classic Rx is ritalin or some other amphetimine. Some doctors are reluctant to prescribe it to adults for fear that they are just making this stuff up to get drugs. If you have an established primary care doctor you have a better chance, or he may suggest a trial with Wellbutrin. Personally,

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Weeg
;) good. tw On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:39:46 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't take any offense. I do have some quirks that can look like > psychological problems, but I'm in enough control that they aren't. Yes, I > love information and will hunt down a concept or idea wh

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Weeg
www.rls.org that will explain a lot. but for me, i have the odd tingling (almost) annoying feeling in my legs, during times of mental boredom. its almost like a tattooist is tattooing my femur when it happens, but not the pain of it, just the annoying dull feeling of it.. its WAYY to strange of

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Personally, I don't find caffeine helping me all that much. No real buzz at all. > Boy, that's me right there, the whole 1A set. > > So the primary treatments are stimulants? I find, for instance, that I am > much more able to focus when I have something with caffeine, especially > green tea whe

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Haskell
I took Ritalin, still do sometimes, but i try to just deal with it and force my self to pay attention, I am going through one of those I dislike taking medication phases. My brother started Statarra not too long ago and my sister-in-law seems to be happier so it must be good stuff lol. I am not see

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Robert Munn
Boy, that's me right there, the whole 1A set. So the primary treatments are stimulants? I find, for instance, that I am much more able to focus when I have something with caffeine, especially green tea where I get a long mild buzz instead of a short intense one followed by a crash. >The st

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
RLS = Restless Leg Syndrome I didn't bother trying to find the 'best' link, so take your pick :) http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-34,GGLD:en&q=%22restless+leg+syndrome%22 On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:01 -0400, Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wh

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
restless legs On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:43:01 -0400, Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is RLS? > > I like to shake me feet from side to side to get to sleep. But once I'm > asleep..they stop moving (of course ^_^). > > -Gel > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg > > hmmm

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Dana
The stimulants don't alter your personality. Strattera might, not sure. Just for everyone's information here is the checklist that is usually used to diagnose children. Diagnosing adults is a little trickier because anyone with the disorder who is intelligent has learned some coping mechanisms.

Re: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Weeg
same here man. same here. took ritalin a couple years ago, and i felt like it wasnt me. like i was a shell with no person inside, VERY weird feeling. not nice. stopped taking it, now just try to pay attention, and basically FOCUS on paying attention tough stuff! tw On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 1

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Angel Stewart
What is RLS? I like to shake me feet from side to side to get to sleep. But once I'm asleep..they stop moving (of course ^_^). -Gel -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg hmmm... mine is diff. i sleep like a motherf***er, for hours on end :) thats a good thing. what happens to me, is

RE: Adult ADD

2005-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I don't take any offense. I do have some quirks that can look like psychological problems, but I'm in enough control that they aren't. Yes, I love information and will hunt down a concept or idea when it comes up, but I can also turn that off and put it aside till later. I also know when to give up

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