build it they
> will
> > > > come."
> > > > > > Not that you're saying it is... but it does sound a bit like you
> > are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Erika L. Rich &l
t; > > > Not that you're saying it is... but it does sound a bit like you
> are.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Erika L. Rich >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > >
ng out on connecting to potential customers.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isn't
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> FB is the one million ton boulder and no-one, not even Google, has been
> able to defeat that inertia and push it out of the way. And Google's tried.
> Orkut, Wave, Google+... None has even put a dent in Facebook.
>
Who knows, one
Clap clap clap! Well said. Very eloquently. +100
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> > eh, maybe. I did put that link on my list of things to look at. I still
> > wouldn't buy the stock. To me, it just screams "AOL
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Dana wrote:
> eh, maybe. I did put that link on my list of things to look at. I still
> wouldn't buy the stock. To me, it just screams "AOL". Note to everyone that
> is talking about Facebook's uses for keeping in touch and for marketing
> small businesses: yes
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
> You use a Facebook page. Granted, Cam needs to do a little gussying up on
> this page, but here's an example:
> https://www.facebook.com/sumo.consulting
Cam needs to do a bunch of Gussying up. :)
The cobbler's children do not have shoe
oncept.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:15 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
>
>
> Facebook has evolved some, and I don't think you see the fu
on connecting to potential customers.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't that wha
al group that I am involved with on Linked in on my
> public profile...I don't use facebook for business networking.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: I
se facebook for business networking.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:10 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
> >
> >
>
eh, maybe. I did put that link on my list of things to look at. I still
wouldn't buy the stock. To me, it just screams "AOL". Note to everyone that
is talking about Facebook's uses for keeping in touch and for marketing
small businesses: yes yes. Just saying. I am talking about the *stock*.
On Th
h business
> > stuff
> > > > on
> > > > FB.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:39 PM
> > > > To: cf
mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > I just don't thin
t that what linkedin is for? I don't do anything with business
> > stuff on FB.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:39 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boo
't do anything with business
> stuff
> > > on
> > > FB.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-
> > > From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:39 PM
> > > To: cf-community
>
my public profile...I don't
> use facebook for business networking.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime
don't
use facebook for business networking.
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threera
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> I just don't think that I want my clients or employers in on what I am
> discussing with friends or familyit' just too personal. The only
> people
> that I have on facebook that I work with are people w
bout it on FB.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:52 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
Then you are missing out on connecting to potential customers.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3
Facebook is too personal for that...
-Original Message-
From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:52 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
Then you are missing out on connecting to potential customers.
On Wed, A
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:14 PM, GMoney wrote:
> It's easy for us nerds to get got up in your next sentence, which is mostly
> true, that there's no technology innovation there. But really, so what?
> Being the next big thing is rarely about a technological innovation...and
> almost always about
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> I still don't think the company is worth billions. They have eyeballs and
> there's value in that. But still, there is nothing that amazing about their
> product. No real technology innovation. And there are all those privacy
> negatives. It's goo
oberts <
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Isn't that what linkedin is for? I don't do anything with business
> stuff
> > > on
> > > FB.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erika L. Ric
Google Mari Smith Facebook.
You want to learn more about how to use it every single little bit of it
for business and marketing?
Google her. Read and absorb every word she has to write. She is the queen
of all things Facebook. I want to be like her when I grow up.
P.S. I took in your flippant f
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Isn't that what linkedin is for? I don't do anything with business stuff
> > on
> > FB.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
> >
Message-
> From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:39 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
>
>
> There's TONS of room for growth with Facebook.
>
> But the only way you see that is if you
big question is are those friends willing to bail you out of jail.
Mind you a true friend would be sitting beside you in jail and saying
that really rocked.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> There were a whole lot of words there, but I still dont understand what you
correct, think if it had more rich content it would be more engaging
and we'd all be more connected, sure. but who needs that now, thanks to fb.
at last count, i have like 4 friends who are not on fb. maybe 5.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012
PRECISELY amigo.
those who get it, are the target market. those who do not, i just
don't think are FB's target market.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
>> i am also a person who has always been one to "keep in t
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
> 1000? How on earth do you keep up?
>
> I only have 120, and there is no WAY I can keep up. Even checking it once
> per day is overwhelming.
The more I think about it, the more FB is EXACTLY like this email list.
Sometimes useless, so
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
> i am also a person who has always been one to "keep in touch" with the
> special people in my life, anyway. fb has enabled this to continue in a
> MUCH
> easier way.
Totally...
Without Facebook I wouldn't have seen a photo of you from 20 y
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
> how on earth does it do those things for you?
>
By giving me a view into the everyone's life. Little bits of data, big
bits of data, seeing photos of friends and family, posts about things that
matter to them that might also matter to
I have over 700 friends, from all the different aspects of my life, so
I organized them into custom friend lists, and I only read the lists
each day that I really want to keep up with, like my family and close
friends. Occasionally, I'll check in on people on the other lists.
The longest list con
On 4/11/2012 2:38 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
> Just because some people don't care to post every little nuance of their
> day, doesn't meant it's going the way of myspace. FB isn't going anywhere
> for a long time. There's a LOT of behind the scenes changes with marketing
> dollars, features, ads, e
i am also a person who has always been one to "keep in touch" with the
special people in my life, anyway. fb has enabled this to continue in a MUCH
easier way.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
> id say that 40% of them occasionally post, some number actively post
> and within
id say that 40% of them occasionally post, some number actively post
and within that group are "close friend", "family", "geek" lists.
its VERY easy.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> 1000? How on earth do you keep up?
>
> I only have 120, and there is no WAY I can
I used to feel that way about Twitter. Then I remembered that this is the
internet and nobody expects me to read everything. I see what I see. A lot
of it is cool. Now, that applies to using Twitter the way I do, as an
incoming feed -- there are also use cases for setting up an outgoing
stream, li
I have 243 friends. Like Ras, most are people that I've hung out with
a fair bit in person. There are some exceptions, like a couple folks
from this list. I also use it as a way of staying in touch with some
people from high school and college that I otherwise wouldn't be in
touch with at all.
I
1000? How on earth do you keep up?
I only have 120, and there is no WAY I can keep up. Even checking it once
per day is overwhelming.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson
> wrote:
> >
> > There were a whole lot of words t
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> There were a whole lot of words there, but I still dont understand what you
> are talking about.
>
> how on earth does it do those things for you?
through connections with people.
> how often do you check it?
whenever i can, whenev
I just think the content I get on Google Plus is more interesting. That
said, Facebook has allowed me to reconnect with people I knew in college or
did MMUDs with in the 90s. It makes it easy to see what my nephews are up
to, whereas if I emailed them -- well, first of all I *wouldn't -- and
asked
There were a whole lot of words there, but I still dont understand what you
are talking about.
how on earth does it do those things for you?
how often do you check it?
how many "friends" do you have?
what kinds of stuff do you yourself put on there?
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Ras Tafari
fb rocks. i use it for business (new sites), pleasure (Friends,
family, fun-times, cool pictures, news gathering, etc),
entertainment (following some cool industry peeps, rags, etc), see a
lot of twitter stuff that makes it through to fb feed.
personal and, close friends and family lists that are
Same here jerry. The only reason why I have a facebook account was to
test some scripts, otherwise I don't use it or even pay attention to
FB. Its an alien landscape as far as I'm concerned.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> that wasn't a complaint, or a dis, but a c
Yes - I think that the key to understanding Facebook's success is to
completely disregard what *you* use it for (or not), and instead consider
what *other* people are using it for.
-Cameron
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
> that wasn't a complaint, or a dis, but a con
Isn't that what linkedin is for? I don't do anything with business stuff on
FB.
-Original Message-
From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:39 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
There's TONS of
that wasn't a complaint, or a dis, but a confused cry for help.
obviously it is working for millions of other people. but there is no click
for me. I dont get what people are seeing.
(much like i dont understand any programming on mtv, nor any "reality
show".)
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM,
I agree with you but, the marketers have taken it over and the
audience has grown weary.
.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
> There's TONS of room for growth with Facebook.
>
> But the only way you see that is if you use FB as a BUSINESS TOOL, and
> that's where the growt
An ad a client just placed for advertising their business, ON Facebook, got
over 600 clickthroughs. In 2 days. To their services. Cost them $43. They
sold thousands. I'll take that ROI any day.
Again. Might not click for you, but there's plenty of other users it clicks
for. :)
On Wed, Apr 11, 2
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
> But the only way you see that is if you use FB as a BUSINESS TOOL, and
> that's where the growth is. Those that ignore this in their day to day
> dealing with clients, are doinng a disservice.
>
That's one potential. I also see the opport
I have to admit I don't "get" facebook at all.
I see my wall, and it does nothing for me. 100% noise.
I get blogs, I get wikis, I get twitter, I get flickr/picassa, I get (but
dont use) youtube. I dont get foursquare, but can see how it works.
But facebook just makes no sense to me. nothing cli
There's TONS of room for growth with Facebook.
But the only way you see that is if you use FB as a BUSINESS TOOL, and
that's where the growth is. Those that ignore this in their day to day
dealing with clients, are doinng a disservice.
Just because some people don't care to post every little nua
of a dying
company trying to scrape every last penny from the pot.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:02 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
I am not sure that interesting is the right word. That&#x
I am not sure that interesting is the right word. That's one of the best
arguments I've ever seen for patent reform, and I'm including the
ridiculous Blackboard patent in that statement.
I mean... calendaring reminders? Someone let a corporation patent that?
Managing electronic messages? OK, I di
Go here: http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.htm
and type an/aol in the query box.
Some really interesting stuff they own.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> my tech stock wtf of the weekend: Microsoft is buying patents from AOL. I
> am rather curious as to what patents
it probably depends on how you measure success. I prefer Google +
personally but for keeping in touch with old college friends and nephews
and such I'm pretty much stuck with keeping the Facebook account. But
Google + is much better for delivering interesting content.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:35
g+ is a joke. an absolute abysmal failure.
facebook is the web/internet for many many people.
nothing has become a way of life, since the internet,
like facebook has become. id LOVE to see their server farm.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:00 PM, PT wrote:
>
> I am not making fun of them. I honestly
I am not making fun of them. I honestly don't think they will live up
to their IPO expectations. I think they will go the way of Myspace when
something better comes along.
The consensus on campus is that the students like the usability of
google+ more, they just don't use it because no one e
Some of my designer friends love Instagram...i dont get it either...but
then I am not the artsy fartsy type ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 1:48 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: It's Dot Com Boomtime Again!
$1 bi
not after Egypt, no. It's already been attempted with Twitter.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM, PT wrote:
>
> Where does it have left to grow? It already has most of S. Korea and
> the Philippines, and a lot of the rest of the Asian market. The North
> America market is completely saturated.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, PT wrote:
> Where does it have left to grow? It already has most of S. Korea and
> the Philippines, and a lot of the rest of the Asian market. The North
> America market is completely saturated. I highly doubt they are getting
> into China any time soon.
>
> A
They can get all the dead accounts to login more than once a quarter.
I thought it went the way of myspace.
.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, PT wrote:
>
> Where does it have left to grow? It already has most of S. Korea and
> the Philippines, and a lot of the rest of the Asian market. The N
Where does it have left to grow? It already has most of S. Korea and
the Philippines, and a lot of the rest of the Asian market. The North
America market is completely saturated. I highly doubt they are getting
into China any time soon.
A good 10-20% of their traffic (and revenue) is from p
good point, it probably does. So I guess the stock price increase is from
people who have a trigger set on that ratio. I guess I just don't see why
AOL even still exists. As for the patents, good question and I don't know.
I am having trouble imagining what they even are. If I get a chance later
I tend to agree, but then I never thought any of that stuff would go any
farther than 12 yo so ...
That said the thinking is that Facebook will become the directory for humanity,
that it has tons of room to grow globally and that it hasn't even begun to
monetize yet (via ads for example).
Wha
It might improve their asset (cash) to liability ratio. The more cash
they have, the more likely they can pay their bills if their debts get
called early, for whatever reason. Were they generating any kind of
revenue from those patents?
On 4/9/2012 2:31 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> my tech stock wtf
$1 billion for software that makes pictures taken with a phone/camera
costing several hundred dollars (at least) look like they were taken
with a Disc Camera.
I am not embarrassed to say, 'I don't get the appeal of Instagram'
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> http://w
my tech stock wtf of the weekend: Microsoft is buying patents from AOL. I
am rather curious as to what patents AOL might have that are actually worth
that sum, but on the whole, hey, good for AOL. Why, however, would this
make the stock price go up? It's not like AOL is going to be creating any
ki
yep. They are headed down the Groupon highway.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, PT wrote:
>
> WTF indeed. This does nothing to change that facebook is an over hyped
> chat/photo sharing thingamabob. I noticed part of the purchase was in
> stock. I assume that $1B is based mostly on faceb
WTF indeed. This does nothing to change that facebook is an over hyped
chat/photo sharing thingamabob. I noticed part of the purchase was in
stock. I assume that $1B is based mostly on facebook's expected
artificially inflated IPO. Those Instagram peoples better sell fast.
Facebook isn't g
Ohhh... Looks like I stole this from Gel's FB post... hehe
-Cameron
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/instagram-facebook-acquisition_n_1412623.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp0009
>
> Key Instagram Stats:
> Employees: 13
> Age: 2 ye
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