Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-16 Thread Dana Tierney
ations. This e-mail is > unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. > > > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:47 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > &

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Campbell
I've consistently held forth that if my movie-making career ever takes off, every film I direct will have a Dalek someplace. Sort of a director's mark - like Hitchcock's walk-ons or something. I just imagine an outside scene with, say, two people having a conversation in a park, and among the

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Raymond Camden
> > > Elmo in Grouchland. Adding some Daleks into that movie would > have RULED. > God, I'd _kill_ to see the Daleks again. Sure they looked a bit silly, but aliens that run around screaming "WE ARE THE SUPERIOR BEING" (or whatever) is just plain damn classy. You know - there just aren't goo

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Campbell
;>-Original Message- >>From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:07 AM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony >> >> >>I can imagine a whole bunch of movies that would have b

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Wayne Putterill
Titanic! > -Original Message- > From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 September 2003 15:11 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > > Legends of the Fall, Ishtar, Eye's wide shut :) > > >

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Doom
Barney goes to Funland! -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc : -Original Message- : From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:11 AM : To: CF-Community : Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace &

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Marlon Moyer
t;Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:59 AM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony >> >> >>Can you imagine the increased greatness of those movies if >>they did have deadly atomic robots? Would Ash fight both the >>deadites and the d

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread John Stanley
like The Hours, or Solaris or The English Patient... -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:07 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony I can imagine a whole bunch of movies that would have

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Raymond Camden
I can imagine a whole bunch of movies that would have been improved with deadly atomic robots... ;) -rc > -Original Message- > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:59 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Switzerland and

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread John Stanley
: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony Yep. But Evil Dead didn't have deadly atomic robots for police. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Jim Campbell
But Evil Dead didn't have deadly atomic robots for police. > >-Kevin > >- Original Message - >From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:42 AM >Subject: RE: Sw

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Kevin Graeme
Yep. But Evil Dead didn't have deadly atomic robots for police. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peac

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Heald, Tim
is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony Not unless your name is Gort. -Kevin - Original Mes

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Kevin Graeme
Not unless your name is Gort. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > >>(Klaatu

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Doug White
ROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony | I think what we need to do is have a coalition of nations that are | absolutely dedicated to peace AND to respecting other nations in how they

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread John Stanley
ommunity Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony I think what we need to do is have a coalition of nations that are absolutely dedicated to peace AND to respecting other nations in how they choose to live. Then that coalition of nations needs to build a force of deadly atomic robots

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Kevin Graeme
Kevin (Klaatu barata nikto) - Original Message - From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > I think we would have to we

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Doug White
ROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:39 AM Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony | I think we would have to weigh it against the actual national security | implications, and alliances. If the Brits get attacked we go, or t

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Heald, Tim
organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:47 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > I think we would have to w

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Raymond Camden
> I think we would have to weigh it against the actual national > security implications, and alliances. If the Brits get > attacked we go, or the Aussies. So, if a country was being, basically, razed to the ground, with massive loss of life, but it's a unimportant country, then we stand by and

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Heald, Tim
. 12958. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:35 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony Would this be absolute, or just true 99% of the time? Taken to the extreme, this position would have ignored

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Raymond Camden
Would this be absolute, or just true 99% of the time? Taken to the extreme, this position would have ignored the Nazis. What about natural disasters in foreign countries? Would you be against sending aid in cases like that? -rc > They basically stay out of foreign affairs. They neither > help n

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Dana Tierney
d based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > > key question: Why do they not have the ene

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-15 Thread Heald, Tim
have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Switzerland and

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-12 Thread Doug White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 5:18 AM Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony | key question: Why do they not have the enemies we do? | | hypothesis: better taste in leaders? Less confrontational political style? | No Monroe doctrine? | | Dana | | | Heald, Tim

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-12 Thread Dana Tierney
key question: Why do they not have the enemies we do? hypothesis: better taste in leaders? Less confrontational political style? No Monroe doctrine? Dana Heald, Tim writes: > They have all the gold and money. They are used by everyone else to conduct > "business" plus they don't have the ene

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
That's it. I'm going to stop looking for a job doing CF and go work for the FBI in their counter terrorist department. :) > Major attacks are done by people who have no idea how to cause psychological > terror so they go for size. Lets go back a few months to the sniper attacks in > DC. Was that

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Major attacks are done by people who have no idea how to cause psychological terror so they go for size. Lets go back a few months to the sniper attacks in DC. Was that a major attack? nope. Was it totally effective as a terrorist attack? yes. It caused people to fear going out. It caused people to

RE: AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
w how to play it ;) > >-Original Message- >From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:14 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > >Bring it on! Chump! > >I still h

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
mer >BloodSource >www.BloodSource.org >Sacramento, CA > > >-Original Message- >From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:10 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > >> You

Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread ksuh
Oh totally. Nukes only work against conventional military measures. It's pretty useless against terrorism. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 3:28 pm Subject: Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > All de

Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
to somehow capture important areas in the USA, the US gov't could still destroy the home country, any of their allies, and the conquered areas about 50 times over. > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 2:49 pm

Re: AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread William H Bowen
gt;- Jim, totally impervious to small nuclear explosions >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >>>Right... >>> >>>May you never be in charge of military decisions. >>> >>>I suppose you think there are humans out there th

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Ian Skinner
layman eyes, at least. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

Re: AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread jon hall
at a time with my brothers. >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:47 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony >> >> >> >> May

RE: AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Bill Wheatley
ay the board >game for days at a time with my brothers. > > >-Original Message- >From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:47 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > > >> May

AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Kevin Schmidt
;game for days at a time with my brothers. > > >-Original Message- >From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:47 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > > >> May you never be in

Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread ksuh
home country, any of their allies, and the conquered areas about 50 times over. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 2:49 pm Subject: Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > It's all moot anyhow. The USA will

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Raymond Camden
> You want to break the will of your opponent and get more recruits. > If several small bombings in places like Roosevelt Mn get > page 12 coverage > if at all, how many Americans would notice? And as > importantly how many > Saudis, Yemenis or Egyptians would pay attention to it as > well.

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You want to break the will of your opponent and get more recruits. If several small bombings in places like Roosevelt Mn get page 12 coverage if at all, how many Americans would notice? And as importantly how many Saudis, Yemenis or Egyptians would pay attention to it as well. On the other han

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Raymond Camden
> > In a word, symbolism and attention. Remember terrorism is > more about notice > than about hitting military targets in this case. Bin Laden > was going for > the big hit so that they could get more recruits and power. > Multiple small > Walmart hits do not play as well as one or two larg

AXIS & ALLIES RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Bill Wheatley
PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony >> May you never be in charge of military decisions. Amen to that - I suck at Risk like no one has sucked before. I'm reasonably good at Axis and Allies, but if I were president, I'd spend all my resources

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In a word, symbolism and attention. Remember terrorism is more about notice than about hitting military targets in this case. Bin Laden was going for the big hit so that they could get more recruits and power. Multiple small Walmart hits do not play as well as one or two large structure hits do

Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> It's all moot anyhow. The USA will never be invaded, so long as it has nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are not the deterrent you may think. Look at a certain tiny middle eastern country with nukes. Almost all of their neighbors, even the ones with peace treaties, have been getting ready for a l

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Jim Campbell
>explosions? > >- Original Message - >From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 2:35 pm >Subject: Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > > >>>> The USA will never be invaded, so long as it has nuclear weapons.

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
rs, >decades even. > >Tim > > >-Original Message- >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:51 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > >At 03:19 PM 9/9/2003, you wrote: >

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Raymond Camden
> Right... > > May you never be in charge of military decisions. > > I suppose you think there are humans out there that are > impervious to large nuclear explosions? Can't we just duck under our school desks? ;) -rc ~| Arc

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread ksuh
Right... May you never be in charge of military decisions. I suppose you think there are humans out there that are impervious to large nuclear explosions? - Original Message - From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 2:35 pm Subject: Re: Switzerla

Re: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Jim Campbell
>> The USA will never be invaded, so long as it has nuclear weapons. Yeah, same goes for Iraq, too... I mean... D'oh! - Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>But lest be real about Canada and Mexico. The US would have to be >>acting >>pretty egregious for a long while before something like that wo

Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread ksuh
> But lest be real about Canada and Mexico. The US would have to be > acting > pretty egregious for a long while before something like that would > happen. > Moreover long before a military invasion would occur there are > better ways > of bringing the US to its needs. Both Canada and Mexico

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Raymond Camden
> But lest be real about Canada and Mexico. The US would have > to be acting > pretty egregious for a long while before something like that > would happen. > Moreover long before a military invasion would occur there > are better ways > of bringing the US to its needs. Both Canada and Mexico

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Heald, Tim
ssage- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:51 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony At 03:19 PM 9/9/2003, you wrote: >While no one currently has the amphibious ability to assault the US, it >wouldn't take mor

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At 03:19 PM 9/9/2003, you wrote: >While no one currently has the amphibious ability to assault the US, it >wouldn't take more than a year or two to create it. Additionally if this >were a U.N. sanctioned invasion then Canada and Mexico would probably be >happy to participate. Poland I think had t

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Heald, Tim
U becoming an enemy in the next 20-50 years, not like we haven't fought a few wars there. Tim -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:14 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony At the sam

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Heald, Tim
They have all the gold and money. They are used by everyone else to conduct "business" plus they don't have the enemies we do. Tim -Original Message- From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Switzerland an

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Philip Arnold
> Then people would sue the brickmakers and contracters who > build the wall if they get hurt when they climb over it. > > How about razor wire on the top, and a 50 foot drop on the other side onto BIG spikes Then anyone who climbs over wouldn't sue people as they'd be little pieces of chopped u

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
gt; >-Original Message- >From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:58 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > >They also have mandatory military service for nearly all men and women. >As wel

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Andre Turrettini
they spend some cash on military too. DRE > -Original Message- > From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:02 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony > > > That'

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Then people would sue the brickmakers and contracters who build the wall if they get hurt when they climb over it. -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:06 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Har

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Philip Arnold
> The US however, our borders are really not that great as far > as terrain. Flat wide open spaces or beaches, very easily accessed. How about building a BIG wall along the borders then ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.c

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Philip Arnold
> That's where the secret society that controls the world lives. See, the "public" society that controls the world is in the White House :-P ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
asily accessed. -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:58 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony They also have mandatory military service for nearly all men and women. As well as well defined

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Angel Stewart
That's where the secret society that controls the world lives. That's why no one ever touches Switzerland. 0_0 They issue secret instructions in swiss cheese too. You have to put a card and cut out the exact holes as the cheese and then feed that into a machine and it give syou your 'instructions

RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

2003-09-09 Thread Ian Skinner
They also have mandatory military service for nearly all men and women. As well as well defined militias where current members keep and maintain military small arms in their home. Was a very interesting show on the Swiss military. They have some very impressive installations dug into those alpine