RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
sday, March 08, 2006 4:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: military recruiting on college campuses >> I have to admit, I am not the nicest guy in the world. I >> did a short >> term thing at Hopkins a while ago for teratech. Went to >> the cafeteria >> and

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Loathe
I know, just made me think of that kid. -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Actually I was referring

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2006-03-08 Thread Loathe
Umm, OK. Yeah, sense of humor. -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > I have to admit, I am not

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the client at the time. > > > -- > Tim Heald > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: military recruiting on college c

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I have to admit, I am not the nicest guy in the world. I > did a short term > thing at Hopkins a while ago for teratech. Went to the > cafeteria and saw > this ROTC nazi hat was all fucked up. His cover was on > inside, his uniform > wasn't' pressed and I could actually see brown leather on >

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2006-03-08 Thread Loathe
mmunity Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses I'm not sure whether the placement of those booths was appropriate. There should have been some distance. You have to admire those soldiers though for putting up with that sort of thing. larry On 3/8/06, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm not sure whether the placement of those booths was appropriate. There should have been some distance. You have to admire those soldiers though for putting up with that sort of thing. larry On 3/8/06, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh. We have a moderately active ROTC on the campu

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
Heh. We have a moderately active ROTC on the campus here. I often see a person in uniform walking down the sidewalk or a group of them jogging. And this is a pretty liberal campus. The other day in the student union there were two booths. One was students upset about the turture and treatment by

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Loathe
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses 150 years ago Congress pass laws allowing private citizens to hunt runaway slaves. Besides the people who want to go into the military will go into it regardless. larry On 3

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Loathe
. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Here's what I disagree with. Universities state openly that they want corporate recruiters and their companies to sign a non-discriminatory stat

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Schmidt wrote: > Like I said Larry, they don't have to take the money if they want to stand > on their principles. > That's a disingenuous argument because that's public money. The correct answer to Larry's question is that the military is different because they are a public-good publicly funde

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yep, we disagree. I don't agree with the "Don't ask Don't tell" policy, but I am not personally affected in any way. But Congress DOES have the ability to create laws. And even universities have to follow them. The high court has ruled that the law is constitutional, so it stands. If you don't li

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses 150 years ago Congress pass laws allowing private citizens to hunt runaway slaves. Besides the people who want to go into the military will go into it regardless. larry On 3/8/06, Jerry Johns

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
150 years ago Congress pass laws allowing private citizens to hunt runaway slaves. Besides the people who want to go into the military will go into it regardless. larry On 3/8/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For two reasons. > > Because Congress passed a laaw that said they could.

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
For two reasons. Because Congress passed a laaw that said they could. Because they ARE the US military, and we, as a country, need them to find the best people they can get (that fit within THEIR rules). On 3/8/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's what I disagree with. Universi

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here's what I disagree with. Universities state openly that they want corporate recruiters and their companies to sign a non-discriminatory statement, specifying that they do not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, gender or sexual orientation etc. Evey recruiter on campus is required to f

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Hat wrote: > It's the power of the purse... if the schools don't want recruiters on > their camuses then don't take the money.. right. > Weee, but let's think about this for a second. Where does the federal government get *its* money from? Taxes. And where do most of the taxes com

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> At the same time, corporate recruiters are required to sign a > statement saying that they, and their corporations comply with the > equal rights policies of the university. If the objection is equal > access, then why not let the military sign the same statement. > > In other words why should th

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Sam
So you think in Germany in the 30's they were listening to the equivalent of today's neo-cons? I think it was the socialist "the government will get you a job and provide for you" message. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > No, capitalism has little to do with left/right orientation. You can > hav

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread William Bowen
> Hseems like some of them don't want to go home. that can't be helped... > "Kevvy-baby" > I kind of like that it's got a nice ring to it. And neither, apparently, can this... :-D -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie

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2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses but his efforts will squelch academic freedom. That is important. On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're missing my point Larry, he's not a professor, my argument lies with >

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Hseems like some of them don't want to go home. "ermm... what? I assume the recruiters _would_ get to go home at the end of the day." "Kevvy-baby" I kind of like that it's got a nice ring to it. Kevi ~| Message: ht

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2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
e liberal and 13 percent are > conservative. > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > > I do not think

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> -Original Message- >> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:23 PM >> > To: CF-Community >> > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on >> > college >> > campuses >> >>

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2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No, capitalism has little to do with left/right orientation. You can have equal arguments regarding slave labour from both the extreme communistic left (think gulags) or the extreme communist right (think of the Bergen-Belsen slave labour camps). Similarly what we see now has little to do with cl

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
C'mon Larry, they aleady do, right. Ever here of the College Republicans -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:59 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses At the same time, corp

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2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
nced at the most elite schools, where, according to the study, 87 percent of faculty are liberal and 13 percent are conservative. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recrui

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2006-03-07 Thread Matthew Blatchley
of it. - Original Message - From: "Scott Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > To play devils advocate and bounce back to th

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
t; Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:23 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college > > campuses > > > Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: > > http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_

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2006-03-07 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > > To play devils advocate and bounce back to the original sta

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Stewart
rom: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses Here's another good commentary from the same page: Academic Freedom Is a Cornerstone of Democracy Academic freedom is

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:23 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college > campuses > Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: > http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_15 > On 3/7/06, Larry C

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2006-03-07 Thread Sam
So you think conservatism and capitalism is all about slave labor and removing workers rights? That's GG's clue to start arguing about minimum wage again and social programs that lock people into poverty. Cause I ain't got the time. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > No, they were closely in bed w

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2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
itary recruiting on college campuses Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_15 On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
nce here, and you know that. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:10 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > > You mean like David Horowitz's lit

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
news/2006/03/07/acfree > > On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep, if it ain't science, it don't belong in the science class! > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > S

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
e here, and you know that. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
2006/03/07/acfree On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, if it ain't science, it don't belong in the science class! > > > > -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:02 PM > To: CF-Com

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Coming from you, it's hard to tell if it's sarcasm or not. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses geez what I was referring to was a jo

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_15 On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some > of his claims. > http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Yep, if it ain't science, it don't belong in the science class! -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > I'd say the same for a

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2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No, they were closely in bed with the corporations - the large corporations such as Zeiss and Krupp were very strong supporters of the Nazis. The laws protecting workers rights were repealed in 1934 (Hitler had been in power for a year at that point), while special laws favouring those corporations

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some of his claims. http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/01/11/retract Its also interesting some of the stuff in wikipedia about him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz Quotations * If blacks are oppressed in America,

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
That institution is already laden with special and different treatment. Suspension of the basic constitutional rights for members is one that leaps to mind (substituted for the CMJ). I don't think that it should necessarily be given carte blanche, but I don't think this particular rule is too bur

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And that's what you should do. But when McCarthyite tactics are used to silence others, as what David Horowitz is trying to do at various universities across the country (i.e., http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i23/23a01801.htm and http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i23/23b01201.htm). larry On 3/7/06, Mat

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2006-03-07 Thread G
> I'd say the same for a right-winger doing the same type of stuff. > Good to hear!!! Remember this statement when your state board of education gets around to discussing whether ideologues should be allowed to indoctrinate your children with their religious beliefs during biology classes. You

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2006-03-07 Thread Sam
The Nationalsozialist were left wingers, kind of like today's professors, so an occasional conservative view is a good idea. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > You mean they should only listen to right wing opinions then. > > Wasn't that a part of what occurred in Germany during the 1930's? > ~~~

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2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
1:35 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > > History classes are unbiased? > > Look at some textbooks from as recent as the 1980's and then tell me that. > > As for godwin's law. I was citing a fact, not ca

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I know the type of Professor who doesn't want the > recruiters on campus. > It's same type who was teaching one of my brothers college > history classes > who says they aren't going to cover any type of history > that involves war or > the military because he thought it was wrong and he > despise

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2006-03-07 Thread Chris Stoner
The universities are not giving special treatment they are renting it. If they don't want to rent the special treatment they can certainly end the relationship. I'm willing to bet if Microsoft throws a few million dollars at the university, they too can rent said special treatment. On 3/7/06,

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2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
--Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses History classes are unbiased? Look at some textbooks from as recent as the 1980's and then tell m

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2006-03-07 Thread Matthew Blatchley
I don't have a problem with other people's opinion, but I wouldn't want to pay for an education where the professors use it as an opportunity to preach their views, right or left, that's why I said, "pull out the soap box". Unbiased teaching is what I pay for, not someone oppressing their views

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I disagree, if we give any institution special treatment beyond what should be considered normal, its fast considered an entitlement, then a right. Then a special right to impose its rule on the rest of society. larry On 3/7/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, simple because they

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
win's law? > > In a political science class, yes, in a history class it should be unbiased, > no, period. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:08 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW:

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
I wasn't on the list when you were deployed, to know you were deployed. If I was I would've sent you mail. -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: military recruiting on college campuses H

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2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
itary recruiting on college campuses You mean they should only listen to right wing opinions then. Wasn't that a part of what occurred in Germany during the 1930's? On 3/7/06, Matthew Blatchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly right...pull the soap box out from under their feet...

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread William Bowen
> Bill, Will, Willie, whatever I understand where you're coming from. Kev, Kevbo, Kevvy-baby... really? do you? > I understand people will have disagreements with how the military is used, > that's fine, having an opinion against that, and speaking out against it is > what our country is all abou

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean they should only listen to right wing opinions then. Wasn't that a part of what occurred in Germany during the 1930's? On 3/7/06, Matthew Blatchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly right...pull the soap box out from under their feet... so tired of > that crap. > No one should have t

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ng the uniform, and that's > exactly what Larry was doing by suggesting they put them where he did. > > But like I said, he supports the troops! > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, simple because they ARE the military. That is reason enough for me. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In other words why should the military get special treatment? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
e men cry, and sometimes bleed. > > What's your point? > > -- > Tim Heald > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:33 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: military

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At the same time, corporate recruiters are required to sign a statement saying that they, and their corporations comply with the equal rights policies of the university. If the objection is equal access, then why not let the military sign the same statement. Or given this ruling the opposite may h

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
I'm not a nice man. I make nice men cry, and sometimes bleed. What's your point? -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:33 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military rec

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Ben Doom
I rifled a filing cabinet once --Ben Loathe wrote: > Shotguns are not rifled, so no. You now have a completely valid reason to > tell your wife you MUST buy a new gun :) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Ben Doom
What? Between the two bad knees, diabetes, and a history of mental health issues? Yeah, they don't really want me. :-) So, instead, I stay at home and send science fiction to my buddies overseas. --Ben Loathe wrote: > Pretty sure you would be medically disallowed anyway. > > -Original

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
It wasn't his purpose I question, it was his tactics. He was NOT a nice man. On 3/7/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait, wait, wait. > > As a serious anti-communist, I need to say, a lot of the McCarthy stuff has > been over blown for years. He was trying to do the right thing, and they

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Does a shotgun count? If not, I've been eyeing a few rifles that I might like to own. Plus, I could tell my wife that I'm only doing my consitutional duty :) On 3/7/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, from the

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:15 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses If you feel that strongly about it Kevin, why not enlist? Put your money where your mouth is. On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They should g

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Big friggin' dealif you want a giant circle jerk for yourself, go right ahead. Jerry, Ostrich. Ostrich, Jerry. On 3/7/06, Jerry Johnson wrote: > Well, it seems I am getting less and less tolerant of belligerent angry people. > I just don't have the time or energy. > > Kevin, you have official

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
ssage- From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:22 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > Sorry Bill, It's Will. > I don't think he does. So what, exactly would "support" be, then? Abject gr

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> Sorry Bill, I don't think he does. > I didn't join the military, no, but my father was in the > Army and my brother > is currently serving in the Navy. I was about two seconds > away from joining > the Navy out of high school, but opted to go straight to > college. Go straight to College! Do no

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread G
gt; -- > Tim Heald > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:52 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > > Did you happen to

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Sam
I didn't say anything. Do you really think people care if you don't read his or her post? Why do people do that on this list? It's like a child sitting in the corner holding his breath or covering his ears...tooo funny. I'm not listening lalalalalalal On 3/7/06, Jerry Johnson wrote: > Well, it s

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
ald > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 703-300-3911 > > -Original Message- > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:56 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses >

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
Pretty sure you would be medically disallowed anyway. -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Speaking as a man

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Did you happen to recently watch the movie "Good night and good luck", and feel more for McCarthy than Murrow? On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EM

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Robert Munn
I didn't see whether anyone answered this question. Congress passed a law a few years ago that said colleges had to allow military recruiters on their campuses and afford them all the same support and access as other recruiters, OR they could give up all federal funding for their institution.

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread William Bowen
> Sorry Bill, It's Will. > I don't think he does. So what, exactly would "support" be, then? Abject grovelling at the feet of the administration? Being a "yes-man" for failed diplomacy? Handing out flyers showing all the kiddies where the recruiter's office is, or maybe carrying signs and helpin

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2006-03-07 Thread Matthew Blatchley
t;CF-Community" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses > Yes Jerry, I do tend to get a little worked up when it comes to issues > like > this. I may not be in the military, but I have brother who is actively > servi

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, it seems I am getting less and less tolerant of belligerent angry people. I just don't have the time or energy. Kevin, you have officially made my killfile for now. Sam, Kevin. Kevin, Sam. (Good thing I can't put myself on the list for some of my recent tirades) On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread G
>I look around a bit more and I was wrong. the solomon amendment > requires that military recruiters get the same support as other > corporate recruiters. Ok, that is what I had been reading too. Seems completely fair to me. > > that said I still disagree with the coercive nature to this. It stil

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
age- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:24 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Just a little bit angry, Kevin? I'll stop poking you then, you obviously aren't in the mood. On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
riginal Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:15 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses If you feel that strongly about it Kevin, why not enlist? Put your money where your mouth is. On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt &l

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
2006 11:29 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses I look around a bit more and I was wrong. the solomon amendment requires that military recruiters get the same support as other corporate recruiters. my bad. that said I still disagree with the coercive natu

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Just a little bit angry, Kevin? I'll stop poking you then, you obviously aren't in the mood. On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, haven't seen it. > > But I understand where you're going. > > Larry's statement about where to put the recruiters is what I'm talking > about. I

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 703-300-3911 > > -Original Message- > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:56 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > > > >

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
My understanding was that the constitution only protected people's _right_ to own a firearm _if_ they were a member of a state militia. The ammendment that the NRA harps on claiming that it's supposed to protect people's rights to load themselves up with as much of whatever kind of arsenal they ple

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
iform, then you have bigger issues. Kevin -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Did you happen to recently watch the movie "Good night and good

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Ben Doom
Speaking as a man in his early 20's, I pay attention because I want to avoid mandatory participation! Don't get me wrong -- I have the utmost respect for those in uniform. It's just not on my list of things I want to learn about firsthand. --Ben Loathe wrote: > I bet that people would pay a he

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread G
56 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > > utilities, copy paper, a secretary and other admin support staff, > permanent > office space, all at the university's expense. > > The thing is that the universities are required to supp

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Did you happen to recently watch the movie "Good night and good luck", and feel more for McCarthy than Murrow? On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But you support the troops, right Larry? ~| Message: http://ww

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
esday, March 07, 2006 10:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses To clarify my position, I have no objection to military recruiting on campus. I object to the universities being required to pay for the "privilege." According to what I've read universi

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > No shit!!! Kids these days are, in general, horrible. These damn kids today... no respect, why in _my day_. Blah-de-friggin-blah. no offense... but doesn't that make your kids and mine part of the problem? And to

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
recruiting on college campuses utilities, copy paper, a secretary and other admin support staff, permanent office space, all at the university's expense. The thing is that the universities are required to support them to a degree that most corporate recruiters do not get. On 3/7/06, G &l

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Loathe
still only talk shit that is true. -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: military recruiting on college campuses One need not read into anything

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
I doubt the requirement is for a rifle, as at the time of the framing of the constitution rifles were pretty scarce. Smoothbore muskets were the rule. But I don't see where in the constitution that requirement exists. Help me out? On 3/7/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, from the con

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
m: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:05 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > Your contempt for the military is showing Larry, it's not very flattering. erm...hey loud-talkin' guy. Did you put on the uniform?

RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
definition of contempt. But you support the troops, right Larry? -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:11 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses Do I? you can read into it whatever your little

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
I suspect that if service was mandatory, they would cut the promotional recruiting benefits like tuition pretty damn quick. On 3/7/06, Harry Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think they shouldn't need to recruit on campuses.. i think /all/ > kids should have to do a 2 year stint after high sch

Re: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
ces. > > -- > Tim Heald > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:00 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: military recruiting on college campuses > > Just out

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