Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-12 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I usually am not that engaged on this issue, but I did want to note in passing that I applaud Obama for saying something about this when the conventional wisdom was that it was not in his own best interests to do so. Even if he was pushed :) He still did the right thing and I think a little less

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Wait, Jerry, are you saying that announcing his personal support for gay marriage is fascist?" Nope. I asked her if she wants him to become more fascistic. I didn't say anything about President Obama's new found support for gay marriage being fascistic. Personally, I am glad he took a stand.

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Judah McAuley
Wait, Jerry, are you saying that announcing his personal support for gay marriage is fascist? Or are you talking about something else? Because I'm pretty sure that Dana's comment that you quoted was about announcing his personal support for gay marriage. Judah On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Je

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Dana
I have a somewhat favorable opinion of the guy based on moving to New Mexico after he left office, but he's also a bit daffy, you know. Shrug, read up on the guy and if nothing gives you pause then go for it, I say. I personally don't want to see Romney elected, but if you can't stomach voting for

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Gary Johnson. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Dana wrote: > > agreed, but nobody running even vaguely comes close to ideal in my eyes. > Process problem, I think. So to answer aphorism with aphorism, why let the > perfect become the enemy of the the good? Ish? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:49

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He is losing support due to his actions in regards to privacy, in continuing Bush era policies," Continuing? He has doubled down on Bush's policies. Then there's that issue of due process versus judicial process. No need for privacy concerns when a citizen can be black bagged or droned by exe

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"shrug, maybe they heard enough from people like me saying dude, quit trying to find common ground with people determined to undermine you or who are pushing their own agenda to the exclusion of yours. Do something that needs to be done. Period." So, are you saying he should become even more fasc

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
http://askville.amazon.com/pronounce-CTHULHU/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=1407662 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tony wrote: > > how does one pronounce that word?? > > On Friday, May 11, 2012, Eric Roberts wrote: > > > > > Then vote Cthuthu for President...why vote for the lesser of two evils?

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Tony
how does one pronounce that word?? On Friday, May 11, 2012, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Then vote Cthuthu for President...why vote for the lesser of two evils? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Then vote Cthuthu for President...why vote for the lesser of two evils? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Dana wrote: > > > > > shrug. Maybe it's an orchestrated gesture. It's still an improvement

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Dana
agreed, but nobody running even vaguely comes close to ideal in my eyes. Process problem, I think. So to answer aphorism with aphorism, why let the perfect become the enemy of the the good? Ish? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > On

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
The lesser of two evils is still evil. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Dana wrote: > > shrug. Maybe it's an orchestrated gesture. It's still an improvement over > the gestures, orchestrated and not, that Romney is making > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > > > > FUCK T

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Dana
shrug. Maybe it's an orchestrated gesture. It's still an improvement over the gestures, orchestrated and not, that Romney is making On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > FUCK THE GESTURE. > > its lame. he's lame. > > the quote from cnn takes the fucking cake. > > "I had already

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Dana
t; > -Original Message- > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:24 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: same sex marriage > > > > > > And who will stand for the polygamists? > > > >

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-11 Thread Ras Tafari
FUCK THE GESTURE. its lame. he's lame. the quote from cnn takes the fucking cake. "I had already made a decision that we were going to probably take this position before the election and before the convention," douche. bag. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana wrote: > > heh. I agree with

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
24 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: same sex marriage > > > And who will stand for the polygamists? > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > Hey, Hitler did wonders for the German economy. > > > > Haha *Godwin's Law* of Nazi Anal

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
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RE: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Eric Roberts
PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: same sex marriage he did??? I guess slave labor will do that? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Hey, Hitler did wonders for the German economy. > > ~

RE: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Eric Roberts
Maybe Romney will... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:24 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: same sex marriage And who will stand for the polygamists? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Hey, Hitler

RE: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Dana
he did??? I guess slave labor will do that? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Hey, Hitler did wonders for the German economy. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-C

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
And who will stand for the polygamists? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Hey, Hitler did wonders for the German economy. > > Haha *Godwin's Law* of Nazi Analogies, I win. > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana wrote: > >> >> heh. I agree with about half of that. But.

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
Hey, Hitler did wonders for the German economy. Haha *Godwin's Law* of Nazi Analogies, I win. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana wrote: > > heh. I agree with about half of that. But. > > AT LEAST HE MADE THE GESTURE. > > some sort of sanity in a year that hasn't had very much. > > On Thu,

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Dana
heh. I agree with about half of that. But. AT LEAST HE MADE THE GESTURE. some sort of sanity in a year that hasn't had very much. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531699_331943153542824_103005129769962_804362_14857577

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531699_331943153542824_103005129769962_804362_1485757734_n.jpg On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Dana wrote: > > I think that's kinda true except I started from supporting him and I gather > you didn't > > support due to his actions in regar

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Dana
I think that's kinda true except I started from supporting him and I gather you didn't support due to his actions in regards to privacy, definitely a disappointment in this area > in continuing Bush era policies, and this one > in the ever growing national debt and the horrible economy.

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
Here is my take on it, and one I have seen in many places. He is losing support due to his actions in regards to privacy, in continuing Bush era policies, in the ever growing national debt and the horrible economy. He has shown time and again that he doesn't feel the need to meet his campaign pr

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Dana
once Biden opened his mouth Obama would have looked weak if he tried to spin it. And the Defense of Marriage crew weren't going to be on his side for the most part anyway, with the exception of the fundamentalist black community. They are the question mark. Don't think they'll vote against Obama b

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Dana
shrug, maybe they heard enough from people like me saying dude, quit trying to find common ground with people determined to undermine you or who are pushing their own agenda to the exclusion of yours. Do something that needs to be done. Period. Or maybe as you say, they see something I don't. On

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I think that he was simply being honest about what he thought about it. I guess he would have preferred to wait but after Biden decided to speak out, he thought he had no real reason not to. Essentially it may be an empty issue, and best to get it out of the way now rather than at a more critical

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread GMoney
I agreethis does not seem to help him politically...at least in the short term. I thought that was refreshing. BUTpoliticians rarely do things that don't seem to help them politicallyso maybe the Obama folks see a different angle on this that I don't. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 PM,

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Dana
yeah that's the way I was hearing it. Which is why I am going to the trouble of saying bravo. The politics of accomodation have not really worked out for the country. If you're going to get crapped on anyway, may as well get crapped on for what you actually think. About freaking time, I say. On T

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
He really gains nothing from it. If anything it hurts him. The teahadis who are mostly against same sex marriage are not going to vote for him anyhow. Those on the left will probably vote for him regardless, what other choice do they have. It will cost him with a lot of conservative black voters

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread LRS Scout
Political move to secure his left wing in an upcoming election year cycle. No more no less. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > yeah...that was awesome. it is never too late to do the right thing. > Biden did sorta give him a kick in the b

Re: same sex marriage

2012-05-10 Thread Eric Roberts
yeah...that was awesome. it is never too late to do the right thing. Biden did sorta give him a kick in the backside on this. Go Joe! On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dana wrote: > > I usually am not that engaged on this issue, but I did want to note in > passing that I applaud Obama for say