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2012-05-28 Thread Dana
Interesting idea. One of the comments on the story asked someone to write song lyrics containing all the words. Thing is, there are a lot of them. It would be Alice's Restaurant. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > That text would make someone a nice signature line. > >

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2012-05-28 Thread Cameron Childress
That text would make someone a nice signature line. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Dana wrote: > > with a pork chop from mexico on a cloudy day, it seems. > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/REVEALED-Hundreds-words-avoid-using-online-dont-want-government-spying-you.html?ICO=m

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2012-05-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Fuck Hoover! -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 2:24 PM To: cf-community Subject: the list: how to ensure government scrutiny with a pork chop from mexico on a cloudy day, it seems. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/R

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2010-09-25 Thread Scott Raley
It needed some political stories to kick start it back up. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: The List! If it looks like the list is taking a vacation ... will someone email me off lis

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2010-09-24 Thread Erika L. Rich
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2010-09-23 Thread Sam
Go on girl give it a kick. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > good good. I only need to hear when it isn't. > So I can kick it into submission. :) > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

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2010-09-22 Thread Erika L. Rich
good good. I only need to hear when it isn't. So I can kick it into submission. :) On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > It was chugging along just fine a little earlier... > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Rich [mailto

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2010-09-22 Thread Eric Roberts
It was chugging along just fine a little earlier... Eric -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: The List! If it looks like the list is taking a vacation ... will someone email me off list

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2008-11-25 Thread Scott Stroz
Little late on this but ...wow...that was awesome. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I don't necessarily agree with Olberman on alot but this is a heartfelt > sentiment and probably sums up > mine and alot of straight folks feelings on gay marriage > > ht

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2008-11-21 Thread Robert Munn
The biggest Yes votes came from religious groups, including Mormons, African-Americans, and Catholics. Those last two groups are strongly Democrat, not Republican, but conservative on social issues- essentially the polar opposite of people like me. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Jim wrote: > >

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2008-11-21 Thread G Money
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Why does it matter to the right? Why should it? How does it affect them? > Because it's "icky", and makes them uncomfortable, and their religious beliefs give them a good cover for trying to punish or isolate these people w

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2008-11-21 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:41 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Keith Olbermen on Prop 8 was Re: the list > > I don't necessarily agree with Olberman on alot but this is a heartfelt >

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2008-11-21 Thread William Bowen
+1 Saw this earlier this week. Olberman can bloviate with the best of them, but every once in a while he's got a particularly salient point. > I don't necessarily agree with Olberman on alot but this is a heartfelt > sentiment and probably sums up > mine and alot of straight folks feelings on ga

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2008-11-21 Thread Scott Stewart
I don't necessarily agree with Olberman on alot but this is a heartfelt sentiment and probably sums up mine and alot of straight folks feelings on gay marriage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HpTBF6EfxY Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: > Fair enough Judas. > > > ~~~

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2008-11-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> Michael wrote: > Having the opinion of not wanting gay marriage != tyranny. But it does. Here's why: Your point is essentially that people should be able to vote on whether we suppress another's rights. That's tyranny of the majority by definition. Look it up in any Oxford dictionary. But i

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2008-11-21 Thread Scott Stewart
uhmmm. no that honor belongs to Canada, in terms of pure square mileage... where are you getting your information from, it seems a bit...slanted Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: > Haha, best response I've read today. > Riddle me this: I've heard that your world maps show the USA as visually

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2008-11-21 Thread Scott Stewart
It's not, but I think you over-estimate the importance of this issue outside of the US Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: > It's a "hot button issue" in every western civilization. I didn't realize > the forum was for Americans only. Believe it or not life does exist outside > the borders of the usa

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2008-11-21 Thread Scott Stewart
generally, no, not at the federal level. We do to an extent at the state level, but it's mostly on large credit expenditures (bond referendums) and this can vary wildly from state to state. The US isn't a true democracy we're a bicameral republic, more in the old Roman model. We elect people wh

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2008-11-21 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
One final thought. I really can't afford any more time to try to defend my opinion on this, nor do I really feel I should have to. However in closing let me just say this. Throughout the last few days a very few people, namely David, have tried to have me rethink my opinion. He's been thought pro

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2008-11-21 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Talk about rhetoric... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf

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2008-11-21 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
2008 8:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list > Mike wrote: > Scott, how is it bigotry when it's defined as "between a man and a woman." > Always has been. Check the oxford dictionary. (1.) Your definition of "marriage" is completely arbitrary. (2.) By

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2008-11-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mike wrote: > Scott, how is it bigotry when it's defined as "between a man and a woman." > Always has been. Check the oxford dictionary. (1.) Your definition of "marriage" is completely arbitrary. (2.) By that logic slavery should be reinstated because there were slaves for millennia. (3.) Per

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2008-11-20 Thread Maureen
You, and almost every other person who holds opinions similar to yours, use the same rhetoric, the same misdirection, and the same lame denials when you are called on your actions. You may not be a part of "some massive conservative conspiracy designed to spread disinformation and prevent discussi

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant
"Just typical disinformation spread by the opponents to prevent discussion of the substance of the issues." I think you watch too much tv. Me having an opinion, however illogical, misinformed, off-base or just downright stupid, doesn't make me part of some massive conservative conspiracy design

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2008-11-20 Thread Maureen
Yeah..but only if you're looking for male virgins. Geek girls party. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Good luck finding virgins anymore >> > > well you're on a m

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2008-11-20 Thread Maureen
The reason your "logic" falls apart is that you're using the wrong comparisons. Just like your donkey comment, these are all red-herrings and have nothing to do with the actual debate. Just typical disinformation spread by the opponents to prevent discussion of the substance of the issues. Read

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Not all democracies work the same. I'm not exactly familiar with how the U.S. works, but I believe you get to vote on bills? Where I live laws aren't voted on by the general population. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the m

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2008-11-20 Thread Ian Skinner
Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: > My opinion will zero impact on what laws are passed or made. > Unless you also live outside of a democracy - that is an incorrect statement. And for those of us who definitely live inside a democracy , many are becoming concerned about so many laws that seem

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
I never cited the bible. I never said it would harm society. I'm not a law maker, just an opinion poster, therefore I truly don't have to justify it anymore than to say it's how I feel. My opinion will zero impact on what laws are passed or made. ~~

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2008-11-20 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Grant [Modus IS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:37 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: the list > > Scott, how is it bigotry when it's defined as "between a man and a > woman.&qu

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2008-11-20 Thread Ian Skinner
Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: > David, I respect your opinion, however I still don't agree. I've tried to > rationalise and explain it and am man enough to admit that under scrutiny my > attempt at logic has flaws. However it doesn't change my feelings, logical > or not. > The trouble here, f

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
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2008-11-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Good luck finding virgins anymore > well you're on a mailing list dedicated to programmers. it's as good a place to start as any. -- I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wi

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Good luck finding virgins anymore ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.c

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2008-11-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
should be changed. >> >> Oh, and David in regards to "age old." You're splitting hairs here >> a bit. >> The term "age" generally refers to a period of advancement. >> 1600-1800: The >> age of enlightenment, 1750-1900: The industrial age,

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
My mistake. I've never been to North America so it's no doubt more tree hugger propaganda. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;2

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Fair enough Judas. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-co

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2008-11-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Haha, best response I've read today. > Riddle me this: I've heard that your world maps show the USA as visually > the > largest country in North America. Is that true? > There you go again with those absurd ins

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2008-11-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, how is it bigotry when it's defined as "between a man and a woman." > Always has been. Check the oxford dictionary. This isn't a matter of me > interpreting it differently than its original intent. If we r

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Haha, best response I've read today. Riddle me this: I've heard that your world maps show the USA as visually the largest country in North America. Is that true? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and drama

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
I apologize for the bit about the donkey, though I truly wasn't directly comparing homosexuality to bestiality. Perhaps I should've chosen "breakfast cereal" instead of donkey and could have still made the same point. Speaking of advancement, I would say that we've advanced as far as we can in this

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2008-11-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > It's a "hot button issue" in every western civilization. I didn't realize > the forum was for Americans only. Believe it or not life does exist outside > the borders of the usa. > i have heard rumors of this, bu

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
It's a "hot button issue" in every western civilization. I didn't realize the forum was for Americans only. Believe it or not life does exist outside the borders of the usa. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most importan

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2008-11-20 Thread Vivec
Because it's an interesting topic? 2008/11/20 Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ok, then why discuss something that's been a hot button issue in > American politics? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

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2008-11-20 Thread Scott Stewart
ok, then why discuss something that's been a hot button issue in American politics? Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: > Well, perhaps I've discovered part of the problem. I'm not American't. > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Well, perhaps I've discovered part of the problem. I'm not American't. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f

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2008-11-20 Thread David Churvis
- From: Michael Grant [Modus IS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:37 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: the list David, I respect your opinion, however I still don't agree. I've tried to rationalise and explain it and am man enough to admit that under scrutiny my att

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2008-11-20 Thread Scott Stewart
vancement. 1600-1800: The > age of enlightenment, 1750-1900: The industrial age, etc. So to say marriage > is age old is appropriate. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:13 PM > To: cf-

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
to say marriage is age old is appropriate. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list But your social institution holds no legal standing I'm straight, I'm married (twic

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2008-11-20 Thread Scott Stewart
riginal Message- > From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:18 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: the list > > G doesn't seem to be that type, but you have certainly shown yourself to be > the type to compare someone's

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2008-11-20 Thread David Churvis
ty. I'm glad you don't feel I should be persecuted (except when it comes to marriage), but that doesn't change the fact that we are. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [Modus IS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:55 PM To: cf-communit

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife. The end bit about donkeys and xbox's was obviously (or so I thought) tongue-in-cheek. -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:18 PM To: cf-community

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2008-11-20 Thread David Churvis
ovember 20, 2008 1:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: the list Try to follow along G, read the whole thread between Maureen and I. I wonder if you might be the type to enter in the middle of a conversation and spout the first thing that comes to mind. :( -Original Message- From: G Money [mai

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2008-11-20 Thread G Money
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Try to follow along G, read the whole thread between Maureen and I. I > wonder > if you might be the type to enter in the middle of a conversation and spout > the first thing that comes to mind. :( > Uh huh. I

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2008-11-20 Thread Scott Stewart
Ladies and Gentlemen, Charlie has ventured into that magical realm known as "TMI"... Charlie Griefer wrote: > i think it does void the warranty tho... > not that i've... i mean nevermind. > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > >> The xbox really d

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2008-11-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think it does void the warranty tho... > not that i've... i mean nevermind. Curious, you'd think that opposite given the way that MS seems to fuck their products all the time... Maybe they just don't like competi

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Oh, let's please end this tread on that note. That's some funny shit. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list i think it does void the warranty tho... not that i&#x

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2008-11-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
i think it does void the warranty tho... not that i've... i mean nevermind. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > The xbox really doesn't care if you fuck it. The donkey may have more > to say in the matter. > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Michael G

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2008-11-20 Thread Judah McAuley
The xbox really doesn't care if you fuck it. The donkey may have more to say in the matter. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well it has about the same appeal in my eyes. I'm surprised you didn't say > anything about my mention of game-consoli

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
Well it has about the same appeal in my eyes. I'm surprised you didn't say anything about my mention of game-consoliality. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list

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2008-11-20 Thread Judah McAuley
I find it fascinating that I've yet to see a discussion of gay marriage that did not end up with a supporter of "traditional" marriage bringing up beastiality. Make of it what you will. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you'll find his

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
idea of marriage is getting distorted anyway. Then you can go ahead and marry whatever your sexual taste is. Man, woman, donkey or xbox. -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:28 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: the list

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
:27 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list Who said anything about ironcald or unwavering? You said there is no benefit to be gained, I said there islearning. I'm starting to think maybe you are only a troll :/ On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL P

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2008-11-20 Thread Dana
I don't have a horse in this race. But why does sacredness preclude David's participation in it? If he feels that way abouthis partner and vice versa, then he just does. Isn't it about how they feel about one another not about how various members of the public might? On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:16 P

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2008-11-20 Thread jeff
That sure must be an embarrasing situation when all you have is a row of urinals... -Original Message- Subj: Re: the list Date: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:58 am Size: 603 bytes To: cf-community > Chuck wrote: > Gay men don't have to put the toilet seat down when they'r

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2008-11-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Chuck wrote: > Gay men don't have to put the toilet seat down when they're done peeing at > home. > Real men pee sitting down. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free

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2008-11-20 Thread David Churvis
-community Subject: RE: the list > -Original Message- > From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:59 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: the list > > What about gay couples who adopt children? > > David Churvis They get

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2008-11-20 Thread G Money
one does not need an > ironclad, unwavering opinion for it to have inherent value. > > > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:30 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: the list > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at

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2008-11-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
that one does not need an ironclad, unwavering opinion for it to have inherent value. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS]

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2008-11-20 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > What benefit does anyone gain from posting on an opinion based forum, other > than a mild reprieve from the work-a-day world. > So by posting what benefit did you gain Maureen? The former or the latter? > What b

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2008-11-19 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:59 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: the list > > What about gay couples who adopt children? > > David Churvis They get the exact same "tax br

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2008-11-19 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: the list > > Michael Grant wrote: > > ... > > Pinhead. > > I'll let others with more time to p

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2008-11-19 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:47 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: the list > > Keeping that in mind, let's look at the root of marriage. Marriages (in > the traditional sens

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2008-11-19 Thread denstar
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Vivec wrote: > >> That's a lot of what-ifs. >> What does the research say about the benefits that gays have over >> heterosexuals? >> As far as I know, there aren't any. >> > > Gay men don't have to put the t

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2008-11-19 Thread denstar
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:05 PM, David Churvis wrote: > When there is overpopulation in a given area, reducing the amount of > breeding going on is extremely beneficial. Happens all the time in "nature" (don't get me started on "natural" and whatnot!). Life is all about teaming up (and staying in

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2008-11-19 Thread Billy Cox
4:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: the list There are no known genetic markers for homosexuality. Homosexuality seems likely to have some genetic components and some social components. The genetic portion that been being investigated so far centers around the endocrine system and fetal exposure t

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2008-11-19 Thread Judah McAuley
There are no known genetic markers for homosexuality. Homosexuality seems likely to have some genetic components and some social components. The genetic portion that been being investigated so far centers around the endocrine system and fetal exposure to androgen. The endocrine system is enormously

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2008-11-19 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a lot of what-ifs. > What does the research say about the benefits that gays have over > heterosexuals? > As far as I know, there aren't any. > Gay men don't have to put the toilet seat down when they're done peeing at hom

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2008-11-19 Thread Vivec
That's a lot of what-ifs. What does the research say about the benefits that gays have over heterosexuals? As far as I know, there aren't any. 2008/11/19 Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > But let us say that the homosexual allele is linked to another trait, > say efficient metabolism.

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2008-11-19 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
What benefit does anyone gain from posting on an opinion based forum, other than a mild reprieve from the work-a-day world. So by posting what benefit did you gain Maureen? The former or the latter? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softwa

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2008-11-19 Thread William Bowen
> Shall I make a cf-science podcast of that? :) +1! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

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2008-11-19 Thread Scott Stewart
oh jeez :) Judah McAuley wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> and if you want to sit at your desk and giggle, read this again, but >> imagine Cartman from South park reciting it. >> > > Shall I make a cf-science podcast of that? :) > >

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2008-11-19 Thread Maureen
And lots more fun ;-> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In short, biology and evolution don't work the way you think they > do...and bisexual people still have the best of all worlds :) > ~~~

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2008-11-19 Thread Maureen
I fail to see the point of espousing an opinion if you don't gain benefit from it, even if the only benefit is the social attention you receive from stating said opinion, or the warm fuzzies you get from feeling superior to those who hold divergent opinions. Unless, of course, you're playing devil

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2008-11-19 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and if you want to sit at your desk and giggle, read this again, but > imagine Cartman from South park reciting it. Shall I make a cf-science podcast of that? :) ~~~

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2008-11-19 Thread Scott Stewart
and if you want to sit at your desk and giggle, read this again, but imagine Cartman from South park reciting it. Judah McAuley wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It's certainly not genetically defective. In fact homosexualit

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2008-11-19 Thread David Churvis
chael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: the list So if I get this right you're suggesting we send all gay couples to overpopulated areas? -Original message- From: "David Churvis" [EMAIL PROT

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2008-11-19 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's certainly not genetically defective. In fact homosexuality appears in > many species, not just humans. However mother nature (for lack of a better > term) has just made it so that it can't be (naturally

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2008-11-19 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
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2008-11-19 Thread Maureen
Then what good is it? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's an opinion. It's not meant to gain me any benefit. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

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2008-11-19 Thread Maureen
The truth is that the Gay marriage issue is more about economics than morality. Ranting about morality is just the smoke screen., although the government propaganda machine has no qualms about exploiting those who would enforce their mortality on the rest of us. Figure what the cost would be to e

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2008-11-19 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
It's an opinion. It's not meant to gain me any benefit. -Original message- From: Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:27:38 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: the list > What benefit do you derive from holding onto an opinion t

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2008-11-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Maureen wrote: > You're assuming intelligence not in evidence. > The real question is should be constrain personal liberty based on arbitrary ideas of morality? Bible says that you shouldn't have pictures on your walls. Should we legally constrain people's liberty to hang pictures of themselve

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2008-11-19 Thread Scott Stroz
+1 On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What benefit do you derive from holding onto an opinion that you admit > is full of holes. > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You

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2008-11-19 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You should go hat shopping with me... it's > impossible. > > I certainly agree that my opinion has many many holes in it. Luckily I'm > just a guy posting his opinion and not a l

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2008-11-19 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
sage- From: "Gruss Gott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:22:13 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: the list > > Scott wrote: > > I could certainly see the evolutionary benefit in ending procreation in > > defective gene lines

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2008-11-19 Thread Maureen
What benefit do you derive from holding onto an opinion that you admit is full of holes. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, it's true, I'm a pinhead. You should go hat shopping with me... it's > impossible. > > I certainly agree that my o

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2008-11-19 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
ssage- From: Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:17:13 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: the list > I could certainly see the evolutionary benefit in ending procreation in > defective gene lines, as part of natural selection > (an

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2008-11-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > I could certainly see the evolutionary benefit in ending procreation in > defective gene lines, What about organisms who can be either gender or who bud? (not weegs, spontaneously grow another creature. I said not weegs) To claim that anything is biologically proper is to essen

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2008-11-19 Thread Michael Grant [Modus I.S.]
So if I get this right you're suggesting we send all gay couples to overpopulated areas? -Original message- From: "David Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:16:30 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: the list > Dude. It&

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