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"I meant in ancient times. " I figured. Just adding a little modern flavor. "I wonder how much attention Sandy would have gotten if it had hit anywhere other than the Northeast." Not much. I forget the name, but the storm a year or two before Sandy got major air time and Armageddon warnings

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I meant in ancient times. I wonder how much attention Sandy would have gotten if it had hit anywhere other than the Northeast. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Even science talks about massive climate events." > > The last time was Super Storm Sandy. > ~~

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"Even science talks about massive climate events." The last time was Super Storm Sandy. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel.

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There is also the possibly of a cataclysmic event that affected all areas of the world. Even science talks about massive climate events. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Many legends from American Indian cultures have it...Indians in t

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1:55 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Texans can really be embarrassing sometimes Not every mythology, mainly those originating in the Middle East.. The Chinese don't for instance, nor does the Norse mythos if I remember correctly.. How much of these flood myths are due to cultural diffusio

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- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Texans can really be embarrassing sometimes The real fascinating part of it is during Ballard's exploration of the Black Sea's dead zone (a region where there is no

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com] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Texans can really be embarrassing sometimes Something definitely happened. Every single mythology has a flood story. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > I'm sure there were floods

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I should add any bad puns on that would get very tired very quickly. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > I had always thought it was some weird English way of spelling tires. > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > >> >> Nice! >> On Apr 12, 2013 1:23 PM,

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I had always thought it was some weird English way of spelling tires. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Nice! > On Apr 12, 2013 1:23 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > > > > Actually, I believe Tyre was an old-old-old school hip-hop record label, > > and was destroyed by

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Nice! On Apr 12, 2013 1:23 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > Actually, I believe Tyre was an old-old-old school hip-hop record label, > and was destroyed by too much Krystal and cocaine. > > http://www.luxuo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/champagne1.jpg > > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM

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Actually, I believe Tyre was an old-old-old school hip-hop record label, and was destroyed by too much Krystal and cocaine. http://www.luxuo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/champagne1.jpg On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > I believe Tyre was a professional volleyball

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I believe Tyre was a professional volleyball team, and Nebuchadnezzar totally destroyed them in the semi-finals. No one has heard from them since. No matter what Mark thinks. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > that book is neither scientifically nor historically accur

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Bogged down details again. Was there a massive flood before industrialization? . On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > As far as I know, there is no evidence that in the last 6000 years or so > (the time frame allegedly covered in the Bible) there was a flood so > enormous

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that book is neither scientifically nor historically accurate. What do you expect for something written by a bunch of semi-literate 8th century BCE sheep herders? for instance, consider Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon. In Ezek.26:7-14, 26:2 and 27:36 God says that Tyre will be destroyed by Nebuchadnez

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"Here is a list of 198 scientific organizations from around the world that have issues statements that their research supports human acceleration of climate change: http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php"; Quite impressive. You site a list that is on a California Government website. I'll a

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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > No evidence? > > Here is your evidence! > > http://www.bartleby.com/108/01/7.html This is the 2000 year old version of "If you read it on the internet, it must be true!" -Cameron ... ~~

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No evidence? Here is your evidence! http://www.bartleby.com/108/01/7.html Bam! On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > As far as I know, there is no evidence that in the last 6000 years or so > (the time frame allegedly covered in the Bible) there was a flood so > enormous

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As far as I know, there is no evidence that in the last 6000 years or so (the time frame allegedly covered in the Bible) there was a flood so enormous that the entire surface of the Earth was covered in water (and killed every creature on earth except the ones on the big boat). On Thu, Apr 11, 2

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I give you climate scientists and engineers and you dismiss that and come back with organizations? Maybe we should let our boss's vote for us in elections too. You do realize most of those organizations don't study climate so rely on the faulty IPCC report. Here's yet another review of the conse

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only in your twisted dreams. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Sam wrote: > > I personally debunked that here just the other day. I gave you the first > forty listed and you couldn't find one that supported AGC. That's pretty > sad. > > > . > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons >

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Here is a list of 198 scientific organizations from around the world that have issues statements that their research supports human acceleration of climate change: http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php All of the biggies are on there. The consensus is obvious. Again, I don't care if you

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The flood story n the bible was taken from Gilgamesh the King...which predates the Torah by several centuries. On Apr 11, 2013 1:05 PM, "Cameron Childress" wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous

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Yup...look up a book called Noah's Flood...Nat Geo also did a documentary on it... They found post holes along an ancient shoreline a at the bottom of the Black Sea that were from dwellings. You can also see a layer of shells from freshwater mussels that stop at the shoreline and where they stop

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But It's not a definition, and it's not science. It's like saying I asked five people and most said ... Show me the current list. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > that's pretty close to the definitions I learned. > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GMoney wrote

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I personally debunked that here just the other day. I gave you the first forty listed and you couldn't find one that supported AGC. That's pretty sad. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > My favourite link on the topic: > > http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/11/15/why-clima

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"I believe what scientific study suggests is the most likely. Sam, when you present me with a CONSENSUS scientific set of conclusions that suggest the most likely scenario is that increased global warming is NOT human caused...I will gladly agree with you." Wow. There is an assumption that sente

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Ni! On Apr 11, 2013 5:27 PM, "Cameron Childress" wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > > Why don't you provide the proof there's a majority and I can work back > > from there. > > > No, you must first bring me a shrubbery! > > -Cameron > > ... > > > ~~~

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Sam wrote: > Why don't you provide the proof there's a majority and I can work back > from there. No, you must first bring me a shrubbery! -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholog

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Meant to say That's a pretty good example of scientific consensus. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusio

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My favourite link on the topic: http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/11/15/why-climate-deniers-have-no-credibility-science-one-pie-chart 13926 studies support human caused climate change vs. 24. That's a pretty good definition of scientific consensus. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, GMoney wrote:

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how is a rag for business a scientific peer reviewed journal? You'll have to do better than that Sam. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus > Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not > part of the sci

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that's pretty close to the definitions I learned. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GMoney wrote: > > The majority of respected scientific study. The breadth of knowledge. The > hypothesis with most supporting evidence through research and study. > > How else would anyone define it??? Pretty si

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Sounds like scope creep. Why don't you provide the proof there's a majority and I can work back from there. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Unfortunately, when discussing the scientific community as a whole and it's > consensus, we can't just "confining the question to g

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Unfortunately, when discussing the scientific community as a whole and it's consensus, we can't just "confining the question to geoscientists and engineers", which is the basis for this entire article. I know you can show me a few studies, or point to a few articles that question this group or th

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So what is a consensus? A majority? A plurality? A large group? 39%? http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021513-644725-geoscientists-engineers-dont-believe-in-climate-change.htm The global warming alarmists repeat the line endlessly. They claim that there is a consensus among scientists th

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Hey, why'd you cut off the last line of that first paragraph?? Here, i'll add it back in for ya: On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Sam wrote: > > Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not > part of the scientific method. > "Nevertheless, consensus may be based o

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not part of the scientific method . Global Warming Consensus Looking More Like A Myth Read More At Investor's Business Daily: h

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The majority of respected scientific study. The breadth of knowledge. The hypothesis with most supporting evidence through research and study. How else would anyone define it??? Pretty simple concept really. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > As soon as you define scientific cons

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As soon as you define scientific consensus. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I believe what scientific study suggests is the most likely. Sam, when you > present me with a CONSENSUS scientific set of conclusions that suggest the > most likely scenario is that increased glo

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I believe what scientific study suggests is the most likely. Sam, when you present me with a CONSENSUS scientific set of conclusions that suggest the most likely scenario is that increased global warming is NOT human caused...I will gladly agree with you. Can you do that? My devotion is not ideo

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And here I'm thinking you have to be ignorant to still believe the religion of global warming. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Maureen wrote: > > All you have to do to know why Barton doesn't believe in climate change is > to look at his campaign contributors. They pay him to be this igno

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Not every mythology, mainly those originating in the Middle East.. The Chinese don't for instance, nor does the Norse mythos if I remember correctly.. How much of these flood myths are due to cultural diffusion rather than actual experience is another issue with using multiple culture's mythos as

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The real fascinating part of it is during Ballard's exploration of the Black Sea's dead zone (a region where there is no oxygen etc). they found evidence of houses and villages and other signs of human habitation. So its possible that Noah's Arc is just a cultural memory of that event. Mind you a

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Something definitely happened. Every single mythology has a flood story. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > I'm sure there were floods, but not of the type described in the bible. > ~| Order the Adobe C

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All you have to do to know why Barton doesn't believe in climate change is to look at his campaign contributors. They pay him to be this ignorant. http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N5656&cycle=2012 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > This wouldn't

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I'd like to know how all those animals from Australia, New Zealand and the Galapagos Islands were able to get to the Middle East so fast and then back again. And where did all that extra water go? On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I believe it is very likely that there w

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > I'm sure there were floods, but not of the type described in the bible. > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > > So you don't believe there was a great flood way back

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I read about that yesterday but decided not to post, after all there have been those who have complained about my posting Leftie stuff. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either. > > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/andre

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous > from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he > has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events. > Not surprising in

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Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events. "Where I live in

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If he was a comedian, this would be one of the best bits ever. Hilarious. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > my coworker just commented that the great flood was in fact caused by man > :) > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > > > > This wouldn't be

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I'd say it was NOT caused by factory exhaust. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > I was asking if there was a massive flood, not for the details. > If there was a great flood around that time I'd say it was caused by > factory exhaust. > > . > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:13 P

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I was asking if there was a massive flood, not for the details. If there was a great flood around that time I'd say it was caused by factory exhaust. . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I believe it is very likely that there were floods of great scale in our > planet's

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I believe it is very likely that there were floods of great scale in our planet's history. However, I do not believe that every living non-human creature on the planet survived because one man and his family (who also survived) built a boat to hold all the animals and whatever food they would nee

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I'm sure there were floods, but not of the type described in the bible. On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Sam wrote: > > So you don't believe there was a great flood way back when? > > . > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > >> >> This wouldn't be the first dumb thing

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So you don't believe there was a great flood way back when? . On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either. > > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/republican-congressman-cites-biblical-great-flood-to-say-cim >

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my coworker just commented that the great flood was in fact caused by man :) On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Marlon Moyer wrote: > > This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either. > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/republican-congressman-cites-biblical-great-flood-t

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This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either. http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/republican-congressman-cites-biblical-great-flood-to-say-cim ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.am