I always knew it was Reagan that caused the mortgage crisis but I
didn't want to say it because I like him.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Another myth.
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> I really liked what Gorbachev said. "We are going to do a very cruel
> thing to you, we are going to take away
Another myth.
I really liked what Gorbachev said. "We are going to do a very cruel
thing to you, we are going to take away your enemy"
I would also suggest that it all but bankrupted the US and lead
directly to the situation we are in now.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Medic wrote:
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> Regan had a plan? Naw. USSR may have been bankrupted in part due to the arms
> race, but that was a side effect of it and not the intent of it.
Of course that was the intent of the arms race, and it worked. Reagan
saw the defeat of Soviet communi
I um hope he didn't find it too uncomfortable.
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, denstar wrote:
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>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, G Money wrote:
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>>> True...but many people proudly label themselves "Liberals" too.
>>
>> I've started
heh. =)p
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, denstar wrote:
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>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, G Money wrote:
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>>> True...but many people proudly label themselves "Liberals" too.
>>
>> I've started labeling myself a "Eugenicist". It jus
We can just call you Eugene ;-)
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:08 PM, denstar wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, G Money wrote:
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> > True...but many people proudly label themselves "Liberals" too.
>
> I've started labeling myself a "Eugenicist". It just sounds cool, ya know?
>
> :Den Seg
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, denstar wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, G Money wrote:
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>> True...but many people proudly label themselves "Liberals" too.
>
> I've started labeling myself a "Eugenicist". It just sounds cool, ya know?
Me too but that's just because I lived in Eugene
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, G Money wrote:
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> True...but many people proudly label themselves "Liberals" too.
I've started labeling myself a "Eugenicist". It just sounds cool, ya know?
:Den Sega Eugenicist UNO
--
It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover
of kn
My issue is not with what people label themselves, but with others
using labels in a attempt to denigrate.
Someone on this list asked me once why it bothered me to be called a
liberal, and I gave that question a lot of thought. I decided the
reason it bothers me is that I don't self-identify as
Who's they?
I admitted I like the neo-con talking points years ago and I agree
with much of what Krauthammer a says but not all. That said, I rarely
even listen to the folks from Weekly Standard.
Other than that I've never heard anyone claim to the term neo-con
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:21 PM, M
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM, G Money wrote:
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> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote:
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> >>
> >> Like using the label neo-conservative base?
> >>
> >>
> > ZING
>
> Yeah..bad choice of words, although it what they call thems
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM, G Money wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote:
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>> Like using the label neo-conservative base?
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>>
> ZING
Yeah..bad choice of words, although it what they call themselves, not
me labeling them.
~~
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Like using the label neo-conservative base?
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>
ZING
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Like using the label neo-conservative base?
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> All labels are ridiculous. I hate them, especially when they are
> being applied to me, or only being used to discredit the person being
> labeled, as in labeling Obama a socialist to generate fear
All labels are ridiculous. I hate them, especially when they are
being applied to me, or only being used to discredit the person being
labeled, as in labeling Obama a socialist to generate fear in the
neo-conservative base. Much like profanity, using labels is the sign
of weak mind and weaker ar
Regan had a plan? Naw. USSR may have been bankrupted in part due to the arms
race, but that was a side effect of it and not the intent of it.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons
> wrote:
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> > Interesting myth that. Too bad th
Were you sleeping all that time? It's history that you lived through.
It took many years. It actually happened during the Bush 41 years as
you pointed out with your silly coup-as-the-only-reason.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Really? sources please? Or is right wing
Actually I would say that it was a combination of both, the strains of a
large budget, pressure from within, and a stunning blow from their defeat in
Afghanistan...kinda sounds like history repeating itself...taking it's cue
from the dying days of Czarist Russia...and much like with the Bolshivek
Really? sources please? Or is right wing propaganda enough evidence.
>From my understanding (data to follow) the USSR was already in trouble
before Ronny Raygun took power.
Also are you saying that Raygun waved his magic wand and poof that
evil commynism disappeared? That the brave people of Rom
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Interesting myth that. Too bad the rest of the world doesn't believe
> it. The Germans, the Bulgarians, Poles etc know that it was their own
> people who forced the communist regimes out, with no real help from
> Ronnie Raygun, just some
Interesting myth that. Too bad the rest of the world doesn't believe
it. The Germans, the Bulgarians, Poles etc know that it was their own
people who forced the communist regimes out, with no real help from
Ronnie Raygun, just some empty rhetoric.
Interesting story about the attempted coup in Ru
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Carter and Clinton both raped defense for all they could. I think the
> theory was who would attack America with such nice guys running her.
> We see where that got us.
Oh, totally.
We were vulnerable, not because of our policies, but because of o
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:48 PM, denstar wrote:
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> Is this true? I mean, you're not making this up, right?
Hard to say since the source links are fake/broken.
But not hard to believe. The three biggest pieces of the budget are
SS, MA/MC and defense.
Carter and Clinton both raped defense for a
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Hey, 'Republicans and Democrats are the same' type folks (or even better,
> 'Republicans will solve our fiscal problem' folk)-- what's your take on
> this?"
>
> My take is that a lot Republicans politicians are full of shit. Being a
> Repub
"Hey, 'Republicans and Democrats are the same' type folks (or even better,
'Republicans will solve our fiscal problem' folk)-- what's your take on
this?"
My take is that a lot Republicans politicians are full of shit. Being a
Republican elected official is not evidence of being conservative.
Th
It's a quote from the website link I gave. The data looks correct to
me. I did not make it up.
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, denstar wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Maureen wrote:
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>> ...every Democratic president (Kennedy-Johnson, Carter, and Clinton)
>> left office with t
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> ...every Democratic president (Kennedy-Johnson, Carter, and Clinton)
> left office with the ratio of national debt to income below where it
> was at the beginning of his administration, while the last three
> Republican administrations (Reagan,
And to think Obama has spent more in less than two years than all
presidents combined and you don't care.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/vindicated_the_truth_about_con.html
Vindicated: The Truth about Conservative Economic Policies
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Maureen wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "There is at least one economic theory claiming that deficit spending is
> necessary - that is better to 'saddle the next generation with debt' than
> to allow the economy or political structure to collapse."
>
> One? How about dozens.
Th
That's how Clinton created a surplus, he raided the SS fund prompting
Al Gore to coin the phrase lockbox.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> Raiding SS was a government standard long before Bush took office. If it
> wasn't "Bush's wars", it would have been something else.
"There is at least one economic theory claiming that deficit spending is
necessary - that is better to 'saddle the next generation with debt' than
to allow the economy or political structure to collapse."
One? How about dozens.
"I do however feel that the government taking money from that fun
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Maureen wrote:
> Your anger is misdirected, and your passion misguided. But your heart
> is in the right place. I too do not wish to pass debt to the next
> generations, but I also don't want to cut off the only source of food,
> housing and medical care for th
You neatly side-stepped my questions and threw another red herring
out, but I am being generous tonight so I will answer you anyhow.
No, I do not feel that me collecting social security, from a fund that
I paid into for the last 44 years in an amount that far exceeds
anything that I will ever col
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> Social Security also produces 25% of the revenue. Are you taking that
> into account? The Department of Defense, on the other hand, is
> revenue negative but eats as much of the budget as Social Security
> even without the inclusion of all of
Social Security also produces 25% of the revenue. Are you taking that
into account? The Department of Defense, on the other hand, is
revenue negative but eats as much of the budget as Social Security
even without the inclusion of all of the emergency spending bills.
You sure have a fixation on
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> I'm more of a fiscal conservative than that. I hate deficits,
> especially when they are created solely to enhance the wealth of the
> greedy. The problem have with those currently yelling about deficits
> and demanding cuts is that they wil
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Justin Scott
wrote:
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>> And the Roman quote? Didn't the Roman empire
>> collapse? Perhaps not the best example to follow.
>
> So, we should saddle our grandchildren with debt instead?
There is at least one economic theory claiming that deficit spending
is nece
> And the Roman quote? Didn't the Roman empire
> collapse? Perhaps not the best example to follow.
So, we should saddle our grandchildren with debt instead? The Roman Empire
didn't fall for financial reasons if I remember my history correctly. They
actually did a fair job of managing their ec
This is a man who makes money when the financial markets are troubled.
He wants them troubled, hence his prognostications of doom. "Let's
put the negative spin out there folks, and scare the little guy so
he'll hoard his pennies and make the economy worse - then laugh all
the way to our banks in
> "It's like someone flying a plane without
> understanding how to fly."
Flying is actually the really easy part. It's knowing how to land and deal
with emergencies that makes it hard. :)
-Justin
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Those 'conspiracy theorists' who have been against the concept of a
Federal Reserve for decades seem to be right.
http://huff.to/dAonS0
The article also notes that financial markets are getting even more
complicated, which isn't a good thing when dealing with debt.
"Because of the significant ri
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