Well, the NFL just suspended Vick "indefinitely"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20429109/
A poll of MSNBC users has 70% voting that he won't be playing in the NFL again.
That's even higher than I would expect!
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> gMoney wrote:
> The only people that should be getting hammered at high school football
> games are other teenagers who have managed to swipe some ripple from their
> parents liquor cabinet!
>
Safety tip for noobs: You can only take so much from the freezer
stored bottles before the watered-dow
that could be because they don't shoot themselves in the foot with stupid
remarks like the one that started the thread.
>Jews have an extremely strong Lobby as well for their rights and their
>concerns.
>It's actually more powerful, and more effective than the NAACP.
>
>
>> And inequality did not
Ripple? Boones Farm Strawberry!
(or the little old airplane travel size liquor bottles.)
On 8/24/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only people that should be getting hammered at high school football
> games are other teenagers who have managed to swipe some ripple from their
> parent
Money
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:49 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
The only people that should be getting hammered at high school football
games are other teenagers who have managed to swipe some ripple from their
parents liquor cabinet
rom: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:22 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
> >
> > Can't get hammered while sitting in the stands at a HS gamean
> > essential
>
Says who?
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:22 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> Can't get hammered while sitting in the stands at a HS gamean
Jews have an extremely strong Lobby as well for their rights and their
concerns.
It's actually more powerful, and more effective than the NAACP.
On 8/24/07, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And inequality did not only apply to Blacks, but to others as well -- Irish.
> Italians. Jews.
> gMoney wrote:
> Can't get hammered while sitting in the stands at a HS gamean essential
> part of the sports experience.
>
Heh, yeah. But now you're making my argument - hunting, fishing,
sports ... all just excuses to get hammered usually.
~
Can't get hammered while sitting in the stands at a HS gamean essential
part of the sports experience.
On 8/23/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So how about HS sports? That's been my new thing - I"ll go to a HS
> football or hockey game and it's always a blast for about $5 total
Not to mention the fact that there were white people who fought for civil
rights as well...
And inequality did not only apply to Blacks, but to others as well -- Irish.
Italians. Jews.
I know of a time (not so long ago -- in my grandparent's generation, 1930s)
when if you were Sabbath observan
No, Duke's original group was called NAAWP. He started it when he was trying
to "Rehabilitate" his image in the early 80s. It was mainly active in Central
Louisiana and the rural South. Remember that this was during the peak of the
"White Power" movement.
Before he went to jail, he restarted
> gMoney wrote:
> about any professional or college sporting event, and thoroughly enjoy
> myselfdoesn't matter who's playing.
>
So how about HS sports? That's been my new thing - I"ll go to a HS
football or hockey game and it's always a blast for about $5 total
including popcorn, soda, hot d
same here dog.
except one marcus allen jersey
On 8/23/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe I'm the exception to the rule for the normal sports fan, but I spend
> very little on my sports obsessions. I ensure that I have ESPN in my cable
> package, but that's it...no NFL package or MLB pa
Maybe I'm the exception to the rule for the normal sports fan, but I spend
very little on my sports obsessions. I ensure that I have ESPN in my cable
package, but that's it...no NFL package or MLB package or any of that. I
rarely attend Royals or Chiefs games anymore, though I watch them
religiousl
DOH!
On 8/23/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/23/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Chuck wrote:
> > > might want to recalculate those figures :)
> > >
> >
> > Up or down ?
>
> down just a tad. You had:
>
> > Monthly sports costs: let's say $50 for cable/sat cost
On 8/23/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chuck wrote:
> > might want to recalculate those figures :)
> >
>
> Up or down ?
down just a tad. You had:
> Monthly sports costs: let's say $50 for cable/sat costs = $6000/yr
I believe (and my windows calculator backs me on this), that $50
> Chuck wrote:
> might want to recalculate those figures :)
>
Up or down ?
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On 8/23/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Monthly sports costs: let's say $50 for cable/sat costs = $6000/yr
might want to recalculate those figures :)
--
Charlie Griefer
"...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Ene
y are even going in the same direction.
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:22 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> > gMoney wrote:
> > that
> gMoney wrote:
> that's because sports f***ing rock, and the rest of that shit you mentioned
> is pre-packaged bullshit.
>
> Hmmm.i think you struck a nerve :)
>
That's what I do! Although I'm not sure what the "pre-packaged"
comment means ...
But, yeah, the sentiment about "sports rocking"
that's because sports f***ing rock, and the rest of that shit you mentioned
is pre-packaged bullshit.
Hmmm.i think you struck a nerve :)
On 8/23/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I like his honesty. He's saying that no matter how outraged people
> are, in general, sport fans are
> Zap wrote:
> One of the biggest reasons that I detest the Cowboys is because of
> things the owner does like saying yesterday that "After he (vick) gets
> out of jail, he might pursue recruiting him"
>
I like his honesty. He's saying that no matter how outraged people
are, in general, sport fan
On 8/22/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i give EVERYONE the same respect, regardless of color. however
> everytime i feel the push of the NAACP on me, it makes me back
> into my WHITE corner and harbor a bit of inequality and disdain
> for that organization because i dont have one that sta
One of the biggest reasons that I detest the Cowboys is because of
things the owner does like saying yesterday that "After he (vick) gets
out of jail, he might pursue recruiting him"
Jerry Jones disgusts me.
On 8/22/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[E
I just read this:
R.L. White, president of the Atlanta chapter of the National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he didn't
understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other
animals is perfectly acceptable.
Again, it seems to be less of a race issue, than a
>You know the hard part of all of this is trying to explain MV actions to
>my 7 year old that looked up to him as one of the "gods of football".
I can only imagine! I am a VA tech alumnus and still remember his days there,
best years *ever* for our football team, and have followed him ever since
You know the hard part of all of this is trying to explain MV actions to
my 7 year old that looked up to him as one of the "gods of football".
Chris Martin
Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
>> Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the
>> most part, will put whoever on the fi
best part is... vick was CLOSE to washed up, with a team
that forgot how to play him and a fan base that was sick of losing.
so, im not sure he is going to get another chance.
tw
On 8/22/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
Charlie Wrote:
> ...versus the chances that Vick might give the team to win.
LOL, considering how well the Falcons did with him at the helm, those
chances may be slim. He was exciting to watch, but really, wasn't as
effective as he was made out to be when coming out of VT. Tuck in the
FUCKING
On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the
> >most part, will put whoever on the field they think will assist in
> >that goal.
>
> Ah, but they are also in the business of making money...and there's a big
> quest
it aint a black thing for me.
its a stupid thing for me.
the NAACP makes it a BLACK thing. as they do with EVERYTHING they
get involved in. and the minute they get involved in ANYTHING i get
to my WHITE corner and huddle with my WHITE friends to make sure
my WHITE ass is as protected as their BLA
ity
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> Umm..
>
> Because White people have been free in the US forever.
>
> Black people got their real freedom just about 40 years ago.That's not
> a very long time at all. There are still people alive w
>Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the
>most part, will put whoever on the field they think will assist in
>that goal.
Ah, but they are also in the business of making money...and there's a big
question of whether the fans are angry enough about this to boycott a t
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
i dont know.
everyone loves a dog.
and how can anyone forget this.
just doesnt seem like the same thing
id take T.O. over Vick any day of the week.
hell, id take pacman jones over vick
On 8/22/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Umm..
>
> Because White people have been free in the US forever.
white people with money have.
> Black people got their real freedom just about 40 years ago.That's not
> a very long time at all. There are still people alive who can remember
> those d
--
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> wrong.
>
> why cant we have an NAAWP that does the same as the NAACP?
>
> tony
>
> On 8/22/07, Ru
i dont know.
everyone loves a dog.
and how can anyone forget this.
just doesnt seem like the same thing
id take T.O. over Vick any day of the week.
hell, id take pacman jones over vick.
im done with vick.
i was a MAJOR vick fan
i love pitbulls
i love dogs
but im done with vick.
ill never su
Heh. I wasn't comparing the locker-room cancer T.O with the dog-killer Vick :)
Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the
most part, will put whoever on the field they think will assist in
that goal.
I'd love to see him banned from the league. I admire what Goodell's
Umm..
Because White people have been free in the US forever.
Black people got their real freedom just about 40 years ago.That's not
a very long time at all. There are still people alive who can remember
those days. The last Buffalo Soldier died only recently as one
example.
Racism, segregation a
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From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:40 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
but how about just WHITE PEOPLE in general.
BL
On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The question of course is whether any team would even take him on
and the negative
>> press they would likely get as a result. He certainly has a right
to make a living after
>> serving his time, as any felon would. But in a very high-profil
Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> wrong.
>
> why cant we have an NAAWP that does the same as the NAACP?
>
> tony
>
> On 8
>I agree with this statement, for the most part. There is a man
>playing in the NFL - a lineman or linebacker or something - who has
>gotten three DUIs, and killed a woman - a mother - in the third
>accident.
>
>He's still playing in the NFL, after having killed someone.
Killing someone in a DUI
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
wrong.
why cant we have an NAAWP that does the same as the NAACP?
tony
On 8/22/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Duke beat you to it. He started that with his
I understand your soldier analogy, and yes it does not necessarily
imply that every soldier enjoys violence or is attracted to it. But I
also add that I'm not surprised by those who are.
I would be surprised though, if a Golfer or a Cricketer was found to
enjoy bloodsport, for example.But I'd be l
On 8/22/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do these guys do for a living?
why does this matter? peyton manning doesnt kill dogs.
marcus allen didnt kill dogs. joe montana didnt either.
i dont see the point.
> Dress up in armor and slam into other people with the intention of
> taking t
wrong.
why cant we have an NAAWP that does the same as the NAACP?
tony
On 8/22/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Duke beat you to it. He started that with his Klan cronies in the late
> 80s.
>
> >could we? should we? start an NAAWP?
> >
> >or would that be a racist and wrong
They are, but those are state, not federal charges, is my
understanding. Wait till next week...
On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling
> charges against him.
~~
ME FUCKING TOO!
wtf?
wth?
On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling
> charges against him.
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Being an avid NFL fan, I can honestly say that I think most of the players
are gentle giants, not violent pricks. We just happen to hear about those
who can't keep it on the field.
Also, I think that upbringing/environment has a lot to do with those who get
into trouble. It is certainly sad, but
> I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling
> charges against him.
he weaseled his way out.
they most probably had him dead-to-rights on the charges he plead out
on, and so avoided having to make a case for the gambling and
racketeering; which while carrying much hig
What do these guys do for a living?
Dress up in armor and slam into other people with the intention of
taking them out of the play/game.
its brutal, its violent. It's not 'fake' like WWF style wrestling.
What kind of people do you really expect to be molding with this?
It's like being shocked th
Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
> >
> > really not the same.
> >
> > if there were a functionally equivalent version of
August 22, 2007 1:36 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
> >
> > saw that... dude.
> >
> > fuck him. all i can muster up to say. fuck him.
> >
> > and yes, we all would react a LOT LESS against him
> >
22, 2007 10:59 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> i didn't say they weren't bigoted nor did i say they weren't ignorant :)
>
> i just don't see them as the "black" version of the KKK. nor would i
> se
put your money where your mouth is.
if you don't like it, stop watching football.
stop gamboling on it & tell your friends to do the same.
if you don't like the celeb, stob letting them be one...
meaning ban the venue...
fnck its not that hard Tony..
btw..
Fuck Mike Vick..
~~
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:48 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> Regarding the NAACP:
>
> --
> "In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative
> press than if he would've killed a h
I was making a funny. I am on your side Charlie.
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From: Charlie Griefer
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
i didn't say they weren't bigoted nor did i say they weren't igno
ect: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> really not the same.
>
> if there were a functionally equivalent version of the NAACP... and
> you're suggesting that it's the KKK... doesn't that suggest the NAACP
> engages in lynchings, cross burnings, etc?
&g
I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling
charges against him.
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about the
well put.
On 8/22/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One shows a lack of personal control and bad judgement.
> The other shows MALICE.
>
> I think one can be prevented (the drunk driving).
> I think the other shows a damaged, soulless human being, who is beyond the
> pale.
>
> I'd ra
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:00 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: either they dont care about their image...
or they are just plumb dumb.
FUCK MIKE VICK.
let him have the same treatment he gave the dogs, and DAMN right
he shouldnt EVER play in the NFL again, EVER!
http://www.cnn.com/2007
lie Griefer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
>
> really not the same.
>
> if there were a functionally equivalent version of the NAACP... and
> you're suggesting that it's the K
Unless you consider bigotry and ignorance advancement. LOL
Bruce
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image...
really not the same.
if there were a functionally equivalent
One shows a lack of personal control and bad judgement.
The other shows MALICE.
I think one can be prevented (the drunk driving).
I think the other shows a damaged, soulless human being, who is beyond the pale.
I'd rather the former (a flawed human), than the latter (an evil
person) from a humani
Don't forget the "picking the dog up by the hind legs and slamming it
against the ground till dead."
Cant forget that gem.
On 8/22/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and hanging, and strangling, and torturing.
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really not the same.
if there were a functionally equivalent version of the NAACP... and
you're suggesting that it's the KKK... doesn't that suggest the NAACP
engages in lynchings, cross burnings, etc?
I don't by any means support the NAACP in its efforts to blindly
defend folks like Vick, but I
Regarding the NAACP:
--
"In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative
press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way
he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had
he killed somebody."
--
I agree with this statement, for the m
the process also calls for ELIMINATING dogs that dont fight well.
part of that is drowning, hanging, electrocution, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
or as the NAACP does... BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
tw
On 8/22/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The case progressed from dog fighting to drowning dogs???
>
> I
and hanging, and strangling, and torturing.
On 8/22/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The case progressed from dog fighting to drowning dogs???
>
> I haven't been following it.
>
>
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saw that... dude.
fuck him. all i can muster up to say. fuck him.
and yes, we all would react a LOT LESS against him
had he killed a person. a person can help itself.
an animal cannot.
plain and simple.
he is a faggot ass fucking pussy who should rot in jail
and be mangled and raped and tortur
David Duke beat you to it. He started that with his Klan cronies in the late
80s.
>could we? should we? start an NAAWP?
>
>or would that be a racist and wrong organization?
>
>
>>
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The case progressed from dog fighting to drowning dogs???
I haven't been following it.
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its telling me. that nothing has changes.
it all goes back to
"by any means necessary"
and by that, support black people no matter what they
do, by any means necessary.
and by that, ridicule and pound white offenders no matter
what they do, by any means necessary.
could we? should we? start an
All you have to do is look at this photo, and you should realize this man
(or a loose representation of one) isn't fit for society. Their argument
that "he is being persecuted as if he killed another human being" is lame
and disturbing in itself. Hell, I'd almost feel *better* if he killed
anothe
Insanity man.
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:00 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: either they dont care about their image...
>
> or they are just plumb dumb.
>
> FUCK MIKE VICK.
>
> let hi
What this is showing me is that there are a LOT of people who really
don't see anything wrong with strangling with your own hands,
drowning, electrocuting dogs, just for fun.
"I mean, what is really so wrong with that? "
This sadly is what I am getting from this case.
On 8/22/07, Tony <[EMAIL PR
or they are just plumb dumb.
FUCK MIKE VICK.
let him have the same treatment he gave the dogs, and DAMN right
he shouldnt EVER play in the NFL again, EVER!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html
naacp wants us to lighten up on mike vick... HAHAHAHAHA
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