RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread John Galt
You are most likely common law married already anyway. > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: help. I need to know if I'm married or not. > > Yea, it sounds f

RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ian Skinner
Not to be a stickler, but why does the church get to "keep" the term Marriage? Mainly, in my mind, because it is probably slightly easier to change the minds of a bunch of bureaucrats then it is to change the minds of all the various religious leaders. -- Ian Skinner Web Programm

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread G Money
They don't. I think the term "married" should apply to two people who have a legal marriage license with a State. You are not married until you have that license. Wait, except for common law heh. But anyway, if you have a Catholic wedding, but don't obtain and sign a marriage license...you aint m

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
>> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not. >> >> Yes, but that has nothing to do with an actual marriage as far as the >> state is concerned, which is what I'm talking about. Legislation. Not >> the church. I perso

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Not to be a stickler, but why does the church get to "keep" the term Marriage? G Money wrote: > Exactly to a T what i've been saying all along. Makes perfect sense, is > fair, and fixes all the problems of the current system. > > On 6/15/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> in the end i

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread G Money
Exactly to a T what i've been saying all along. Makes perfect sense, is fair, and fixes all the problems of the current system. On 6/15/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in the end it's a simple legal contract that has little to do with > religion. > > From the states point of view, e

RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Nick McClure
The church doesn't have a say in it. The people however do. > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:51 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not. > >

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2006-06-15 Thread Tony
tango got married there too, st lucia that is... he might know. tw On 6/15/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in the end it's a simple legal contract that has little to do with religion. > > From the states point of view, exactly. That's why the fairest solution to > me is to separate

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
2006 12:20 PM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not. >> >> Not only that, what about those of us who didn't get married in a church >> by a church official? >> >> Which brings the whole deal full circle,

RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ian Skinner
in the end it's a simple legal contract that has little to do with religion. >From the states point of view, exactly. That's why the fairest solution to me >is to separate the religious "Marriage" from the state Contract. Give the >state contract a new name that applies to everybody. Then it

RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Nick McClure
mpagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:20 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not. > > Not only that, what about those of us who didn't get married in a church > by a church official? > > Which brings

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2006-06-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
And many churches are quite willing to participate in marrying gays. On 6/15/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not only that, what about those of us who didn't get married in a church > by a church official? > > ...the church's services to get married is only one way to go about it, a

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
"cheapen the institution" is just a pc codeword for "gays give us the creeps". Much like "culture of life" is shorthand for "no abortions, assisted suicide or living wills, but war and the death penalty are just fine, thanks." On 6/15/06, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can move in with wh

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Not only that, what about those of us who didn't get married in a church by a church official? Which brings the whole deal full circle, at least for me. Marriage is somewhat defined as a legal contract, or at least it seems, since all these states have legislation regarding marriage, so what e

RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ian Skinner
Additionally, lets say you live in Nebraska, and want to marry the person you live with. You can rent an apartment in Kansas for one month, move in with your sweetie, declare that you are "married", then move back to Nebraska, and they will legally recognized your common law marriage from Kansas

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2006-06-15 Thread G Money
Which brings up another very interesting question Rayif religious zealots are so hell bent on preventing gay marriages because they are an afront to their moral beliefshow the hell can they ignore these common law marriages? I can move in with whomever I want, as long as she's female, and

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2006-06-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ray wrote: > My wife and I got married in St. Lucia back in '04, we got the marriage > license and all that crap while we were on the island, got married by an > "official" (don't know what they call them there, JP, whatever). > I believe the US recognizes marriage from hundreds of countries. F

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Yea, I always thought there was some kind of time value that needed to be met, like 5 or 7 years or something. Until I read that site. So...does it work the same way for gay couples? *That* would make things interesting. :) G Money wrote: > This common law stuff is really frickin' goofy. All

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread G Money
This common law stuff is really frickin' goofy. All you have to do to become legally married, is live together and claim in public "we are married". BOOM. You are afforded all the rights of a couple with a marriage license (that they had to PAY for, I might add). Additionally, lets say you live in

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
New Hampshire's on that list. Dammit, there goes my out. (although it does say "for inheritance purposes only"...) G Money wrote: > I count only 12 states (including DC) that recognize common law marriages. > Found the info here: > > http://www.unmarried.org/common.html > > What I found weird

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread G Money
I count only 12 states (including DC) that recognize common law marriages. Found the info here: http://www.unmarried.org/common.html What I found weird reading this stuff, though, is that if you live in a common law state, you live with a significant other, and you joke with people that you are "

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2006-06-15 Thread William Bowen
> I suspect it should be; I believe the US has pretty good relations with that > country. besides, in many states cohabitating under the same name (e.g. playing married) makes you common-law anyway. Washington provides for some hefty bonuses in the case of a common-law break-up... :-\ -- wil

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2006-06-15 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
all right man, you've got yourself an out! :) On 6/15/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yea, it sounds funny, but here's the story: > > My wife and I got married in St. Lucia back in '04, we got the marriage > license and all that crap while we were on the island, got married by an

RE: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ian Skinner
I just read about something like this in a newspaper advice column. A lady was worried that her marriage in Mexico was not valid in the states. According to the columnist, the US, or at least LA, recognizes Mexican marriage licenses. I suspect a quick call your local vital statistics official

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Sweet, thanks. Jerry Johnson wrote: > I can't help you till tonight, but I'll call my mom after work (she's > in meetings all day). She is a JP, marries people, and was a paralegal > and legal secretary for 30+ years. She MAY no. > > On 6/15/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yea, it

Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
I can't help you till tonight, but I'll call my mom after work (she's in meetings all day). She is a JP, marries people, and was a paralegal and legal secretary for 30+ years. She MAY no. On 6/15/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yea, it sounds funny, but here's the story: > > My wife

help. I need to know if I'm married or not.

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Yea, it sounds funny, but here's the story: My wife and I got married in St. Lucia back in '04, we got the marriage license and all that crap while we were on the island, got married by an "official" (don't know what they call them there, JP, whatever). My father-in-law called my wife yesterday