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. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:03 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > I think it ended when we began using rocks and sticks. Then some rat > bast*ard tied

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At least with hand held weapons, it was man vs man rather than technology vs man. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category I think it ended when we began using

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From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:03 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category > > > I have come to believe that the term civilized warfare is an oxymoron. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. L

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That ended when we started using firearms... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category I have come to believe that the term civilized warfare is an oxymoron

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The Alien invasion one... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Which WWII one? The Alien Invasion series or the thinly disguised propaganda piece supporting

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would not surprise me a bit. He definitely overplayed his hand. Iraq was a personal vendetta and had nothing to do with 9/11. Eric -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 7:36 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Bush

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>There were numerous warnings that the Bush administration chose to >ignore. The Clinton administration also made some significant errors >but nothing as egregious. > > >> Hey now, we all know darn good and well that Bush planned the whole thing. If you look close at the videos you can see him b

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I have come to believe that the term civilized warfare is an oxymoron. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:32 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category If we have no rule of law then we are no better

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Yeah, we went over this hundreds of times. Go to see you're information retention hasn't changed. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > There were numerous warnings that the Bush administration chose to > ignore. The Clinton administration also made some significant errors

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There were numerous warnings that the Bush administration chose to ignore. The Clinton administration also made some significant errors but nothing as egregious. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Sam wrote: > > Bush? You think Bush caused 9/11 or are you saying he overplayed his hand? > > > > On

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gt; The rule of law has little to nothing to do with how I feel we should > proceed. > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:36 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category >

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C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:34 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > I've given up on Turtledove. I really don't like how his writing has > evolved. > > That said, would anybody li

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Bush? You think Bush caused 9/11 or are you saying he overplayed his hand? On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It has everything to do with it...it is what defines this country.  I am > sure you killed people they knew...what does that have to do with anything? > That is

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[mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:37 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category They killed people I know. They are not Americans. The rule of law has little to nothing to do with how I feel we should proceed. -Original Message- From: Eric

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I liked the WWII one...i haven't read anything else... Eric -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category I've given up on Turtledove. I really don'

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And one other thing...I don't have to watch a tape...I watched it happen... Eric -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Eric Roberts

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Yeah, we might not agree on much, but we're eye to eye here man. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Unfortuately, many of our leaders are own

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They killed people I know. They are not Americans. The rule of law has little to nothing to do with how I feel we should proceed. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh

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>The cynic in me says that even in that situation, we would fight amongst >ourselves and kill those who disagree with us about how best to fight our >common enemy. > Either that or bicker about how to fight back until they just killed us. I've always found that to be one of the more unbeliev

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12:11 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Know what, I kinda agree. >> > > >> > > Until we are willing to deal head on with the sponsors (Saudi and Iran >> > and >> > > so on) this will never end. >> > &g

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This is probably most insightful thing I think I've seen you say (type). On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > It's not desensitized...it's being honest. It's looking at it logically > instead of emotionally running around like chickens with

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> > Until we are willing to deal head on with the sponsors (Saudi and Iran > > and > > > so on) this will never end. > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > > > Sent: Friday, May 14,

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t; > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:44 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > The question wasn't "should we fight against Al Queda and terrorism", &g

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It's not desensitized...it's being honest. It's looking at it logically instead of emotionally running around like chickens with our heads cut off. You are right...they should be ruthlessly hunted down and brought to justice...justice under the rule of law. Eric An act of war is an act perpetrat

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> > Ah but thwy do, they claim to be the army of the umma. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:10 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no

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lling to deal head on with the sponsors (Saudi and Iran > and > > so on) this will never end. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:44 AM > > To: cf-community > > Subject:

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ee. > > Until we are willing to deal head on with the sponsors (Saudi and Iran and > so on) this will never end. > > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:44 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in

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Know what, I kinda agree. Until we are willing to deal head on with the sponsors (Saudi and Iran and so on) this will never end. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no

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The question wasn't "should we fight against Al Queda and terrorism", the question was "can we actually declare War". There is a solid argument that the US has steadily moved away from actually declaring its wars, ever since Korea. Many people think this is a bad thing for a variety of reasons. B

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c [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:44 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > ummagumma? > > Not my favourite album, but a must have in any floyd collection. > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:10 AM, LRS Scout wro

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The umma is the world wide Islamic state. -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category ummagumma? Not my favourite album, but a must have in any floyd collection. On Fri, May

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > They are not a government...nor do they claim to be. They > didn't commit an act of war, they committed a criminal act or terrorism. > Go back and watch a tape of the twin towers burning...the bodies f

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ing.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:10 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > That isn't true...the Barbary Pirates were part of governmental entities > that we had emmissaries/ambassadors posted to. Alqueda is an underground > terrorist gro

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Ah but thwy do, they claim to be the army of the umma. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category That isn't true...the Barbary Pirates were pa

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That isn't true...the Barbary Pirates were part of governmental entities that we had emmissaries/ambassadors posted to. Alqueda is an underground terrorist group. They are not a government...nor do they claim to be. They didn't commit an act of war, they committed a criminal act or terrorism.

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sc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:59 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category > > > Wrong. > > Look into saboteurs and spies in the rules of land warfare. However I > still > wouldn't like to see these rules applied to American

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The Barbary States were countries - what is now parts of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. In the 1500's naval forces under Barbarossa Hayreddin Pasha and later Uluch Ali took over a several North African ports such as Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers, Salé, and other ports in Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. T

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I could see us declaring war on Al Queda but the "war" we are supposedly fighting is with the nebulous thing known as "terrorism". There is Al Queda. But in Afghanistan, we are fighting (often) against the Taliban. In Iraq, it may be both Sunni and Shiite groups under various names with Al Queda i

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> Al-Queda is not a nation the last time I checked. >> Al Qaeda declared war against the US. There's no difference between Al Queda and the Barbary Pirates (a "Fred Smith" precedent if there ever was one) of the 19th Century. No nation. No problem. Declare war on the "leadership" and "membershi

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When formal war is declared against us, we do not need to do the same. >>> Al Qaeda declared war against the US. Are you saying al Qaeda can't declare war against us until they have geographical boundaries? On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I mean really think a

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I mean really think about it, declaring war on Al-Queda is like the government declaring war on Fred Smith. It really is a ridiculous as that. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Al-Queda is not a nation the last time I checked. > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Sam w

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Al-Queda is not a nation the last time I checked. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Sam wrote: > > Al Qaeda declared war against the US. > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:16 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> >> >> When formal war is declared against us, we do not need to do the same. > > ~~

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Al Qaeda declared war against the US. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:16 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > When formal war is declared against us, we do not need to do the same. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon

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>>> >>>>> Your point? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Eric Roberts >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's only liberal if it doesn't goosestep with the conservatives set of >>>>&g

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with the conservatives set of >>>>> facts... >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM >>>>> To: cf-community >>&g

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M, Eric Roberts >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It's only liberal if it doesn't goosestep with the conservatives set of >>>> facts... >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] >&

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t; facts... >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category >>> >>> >>>

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> wrote: >> >> It's only liberal if it doesn't goosestep with the conservatives set of >> facts... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM >> To: cf-community >

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Message- > From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > While not the State of Hawaii, you can read some more information here: > http://www.factcheck.org/askfactche

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he was not declared an enemy combatant. moreover he was captured on US soil so different rules apply. Or so the law states. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Sam wrote: > > The constitution doesn't apply to non citizen enemy combatants. If it > did we'd have to Mirandize and gather evidence on th

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I agree On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:16 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Personally I don't think that the constitution was clear enough on what > constituted a formal declaration of war. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:

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>If they ignore you, you will go free when it is time to go to court and you >will become rich and they will become unemployed. > That's the way it SHOULD work. Unfortunately our justice system is so broken that I don't think it would work out quite that way. More likely if they ignore you you'

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The constitution doesn't apply to non citizen enemy combatants. If it did we'd have to Mirandize and gather evidence on the battlefields. What if we were invaded? You think that's a criminal matter? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And isn't that what happened? > > And

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ts of war". Personally I don't think that the constitution was clear enough on what constituted a formal declaration of war. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no categor

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Both sides do it man. Neither is worth a damn anymore. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category And isn't that what happened? And so what are the right win

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That was a military engagements authorized by Congress On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:06 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Beyond that one of the first declared wars the US ever fought was against > the Barbary Pirates and they weren't a nation state. > ~~~

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0 1:21 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > In US airspace on an American flagged aircraft. According to bot US > and International Law that makes it in US territory. > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> >> Well fuck, s

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54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category It was a declaration to use military force against a sovereign nation On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Um...no...that is not a declaration of war...that was handing over their > power to control t

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-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category And what is the Act of War on Terror anyway? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Nope, sorry. No war was or has

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Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Um...no...that is not a declaration of war...that was handing over their power to control the president's actions with our t

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Yeah got to try him. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category In the air over Detroit... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc

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the law or is accused of doing so. Their courts would operate in the same manner as any other court in the CONUS. Eric -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Agreed.

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From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:49 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Those saboteurs and spies are still part of a country (or alliance with a country) or a military. What country is Al Queda from? -Original Me

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Yup, agreed. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category But he was caught on US soil (or US Airspace) which puts him in the jurisdiction of the US, which

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No, I was being serious. Quite. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category He was being rhetorical On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > In US ai

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No two ways about it then. Mirandize, investigate and try. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category In US airspace on an American flagged aircraft. According to

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Yes...hence the "was conservative"... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:55 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category You do realize he's dead and no longer runs things? On Tue, May 11, 2010 a

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AKA the Global War on Terror by NATO On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > And what is the Act of War on Terror anyway? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-An

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It was a declaration to use military force against a sovereign nation On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Um...no...that is not a declaration of war...that was handing over their > power to control the president's actions with our troops, which is strictly > limited.  There

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You do realize he's dead and no longer runs things? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Ummm...the Annenberg project board is populated by people who all voted for > McCain...not Obama.  Walter Annenberg, the founder, was very conservative > and was appointed to offices by

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e Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City upon his passing in 2002. In 1990, he donated $50 million to the United Negro College Fund which was the largest amount ever contributed to the organization.[10] -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 201

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Well, he was both rhetorically and actually in US territory... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category He was being rhetorical On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Larry C

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ve actions" Eric -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:18 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category And yet you went and fought anyway. Congress does not need to declare to make it so. BTW, since congress vot

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In the air over Detroit... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:12 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Well fuck, shoot him then. I don't know. Where was he grabbed? In or out of the s

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And what is the Act of War on Terror anyway? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Nope, sorry. No war was or has been declared since WW2, swing and a miss. Try

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aw or is accused of doing so. Their courts would operate in the same manner as any other court in the CONUS. Eric -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Agreed. I was

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11, 2010 12:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category We're discussing the underwear bomber who wasn't a US citizen On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Wrong. > > Look into saboteurs and spies in the rules of land warfare.  However I

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Those saboteurs and spies are still part of a country (or alliance with a country) or a military. What country is Al Queda from? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:59 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category

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FactCheck.org - A Project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center AKA proud parents of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. How surprising someone would suspect bias. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:52 PM, morgan l wrote: > > I stand corrected, though not at all surprised. > ~

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He was being rhetorical On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > In US airspace on an American flagged aircraft. According to bot US > and International Law that makes it in US territory. > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> >> Well fuck, shoot him then. >>

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; -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:02 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category > > > We're discussing the underwear bomber who wasn't a US citizen > > On Tue, May 11, 2010

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And yet you went and fought anyway. Congress does not need to declare to make it so. BTW, since congress voted for military action against Iraq that is considered a declaration of war. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:10 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Nope, sorry. > > No war was or has been declared since

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Well fuck, shoot him then. I don't know. Where was he grabbed? In or out of the states? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category We're discussing the underwear

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We have police and executive actions supported by treasure and blood, in defiance of the constitution if you ask me. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Congress hasn&#

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You and me both. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category So when did Congress declare war? I must have slept in that day... -Original Message

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Nope, sorry. No war was or has been declared since WW2, swing and a miss. Try again. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Al Qaeda and or the Taliban is defined under

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Seriously, get over the birth certificate. The man is president, lets move on to what he's fucking up :) -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:30 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category not this

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: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Not ones that were either US citizens or captured in the US. Even Jose Padilla, who was being illegally held as an enemy combatant, was eventually

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We're discussing the underwear bomber who wasn't a US citizen On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Wrong. > > Look into saboteurs and spies in the rules of land warfare.  However I still > wouldn't like to see these rules applied to American citizens.

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sage- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:41 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category I've been taught that if I'm ever arrested I should say only one word to the cops whether I'm innocent or not. That word is "Lawyer&qu

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Congress hasn't declared war since WWII yet we have them. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > So when did Congress declare war?  I must have slept in that day.. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

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unity Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category What army do they belong to? What country do we go to war with? Being able to define them is a requirement of it being an act of war vs a criminal action. Eric -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 20

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Like I said... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category I did.While not totally liberal they do have a strong bias. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, morgan l wrote

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So when did Congress declare war? I must have slept in that day... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Al Qaeda and or the Taliban is defined under the Act of War on

RE: in the oh hell no category

It's only liberal if it doesn't goosestep with the conservatives set of facts... -Original Message- From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category While not the State of Hawaii, you can

Re: in the oh hell no category

I stand corrected, though not at all surprised. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > I did.While not totally liberal they do have a strong bias. > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, morgan l wrote: > > > > While not the State of Hawaii, you can read some more information here: >

Re: in the oh hell no category

I did.While not totally liberal they do have a strong bias. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, morgan l wrote: > > While not the State of Hawaii, you can read some more information here: > http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obamas_birth_certificate_been_disclosed.html > >

Re: in the oh hell no category

So you think On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > If they ignore you, you will go free when it is time to go to court and you > will become rich and they will become unemployed. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfus

Re: in the oh hell no category

Al Qaeda and or the Taliban is defined under the Act of War on Terror. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > What army do they belong to?  What country do we go to war with?  Being able > to define them is a requirement of it being an act of war vs a criminal > action. > > E

Re: in the oh hell no category

While not the State of Hawaii, you can read some more information here: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obamas_birth_certificate_been_disclosed.html I don't believe I've ever heard anyone claim FactC

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