Sidestep to cfqueryparam

2005-02-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Still, would you, like Jochem mentioned a few weeks ago, take ANY chance that someone smarter than you might access to your system :) I think it is not a discussion about whether you need the tag or not, it is merely a discussion between would you take the chance or not being exposed to less frien

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Roger B.
> i dunno, go to myspace.com and do a few searches, that fusebox app rarely > runs right (or could be the developers) if at all. Dave: The fact that their app contains an extra switch/case or three over a non-FB app is unlikely to have any material impact on their uptime or performance. Assuming

Re: form action to CFC problems

2005-02-17 Thread Cedric Villat
I tried that originally, but then the CFC complained about not being able to find the other form fields. Strange but true :-/ Cedric >I would switch it back to post and just add ?method=methodName to the action >url. > >Example: > >CFC: bookstore >Method: getBook() > > > > >Mike ~~~

Re: FB4 book? (was "RE: "Discovering FB4.1" book comparison to FB4.0 edition?")

2005-02-17 Thread Brian Kotek
Yes, Jeff's books are available at http://www.cafepress.com/protonarts/250818 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:51:55 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > If the FB4.1 book hasn't shipped yet, what would be the recommended > > choice f

RE: form action to CFC problems

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
I would switch it back to post and just add ?method=methodName to the action url. Example: CFC: bookstore Method: getBook() Mike > From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I changed the form method from "post" to "get" so that it > passed the form fields via the URL and magically it

Re: form action to CFC problems

2005-02-17 Thread Cedric Villat
Michael, I changed the form method from "post" to "get" so that it passed the form fields via the URL and magically it started working. What is interesting is that I am still running this site on 6.1, but CFMX7 is installed on that machine on the built-in webserver. Does it make sense that the

Ebay SOAP API

2005-02-17 Thread Umer Farooq
Has anyone been able to get ebay SOAP API going with CF. I've tried and I keep on getting: coldfusion.xml.rpc.ServiceProxy$ServiceMethodNotFoundException this is what i'm doing.. X bayWS = CreateObject("webservice", "http://deve

RE: form action to CFC problems

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Did you confirm your mappings and locations to the CFCs? Nothing else > changed? You have the hidden form field "method"? I overlooked something in CFMX 7. Seems as though the method name is required in the URL on the action of the form no

RE: form action to CFC problems

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Something strange has just happened. I have a form where the > action points directly to a CFC. This was working great until > today. Now when I submit the form, the page gets redirected > to the Component Browser Login page. The only thing I ca

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
Damn, I made the mistake of reading this one from the bottom up! I messed with FB a little, and it messed my mind up. Went back to my simple, basic architecture and felt much better. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and conve

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Aaron Rouse
depending on what you like, you can point your fingers in any direction that pleases you :) On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:53:22 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i dunno, go to myspace.com and do a few searches, that fusebox app rarely > runs right (or could be the developers) if at all. > > --

form action to CFC problems

2005-02-17 Thread Cedric Villat
Something strange has just happened. I have a form where the action points directly to a CFC. This was working great until today. Now when I submit the form, the page gets redirected to the Component Browser Login page. The only thing I can think of is that I installed CFMX7. Has anyone seen thi

RE: FB4 book? (was "RE: "Discovering FB4.1" book comparison to FB4.0 edition?")

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If the FB4.1 book hasn't shipped yet, what would be the recommended > choice for an FB4 book if I wanted something to read for the weekend? I would grab Jeff Peter's "Fusebox 4 and FLiP" along with the "What's New in Fusebox 4.1"... although you

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
i dunno, go to myspace.com and do a few searches, that fusebox app rarely runs right (or could be the developers) if at all. From: "Damien McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Plum vs Adalon? A

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
Any web application will be slow on a 486 ;-) Honestly speaking, in today's world of 2ghz machines being considered *low* end I don't think that speed should be the concern it was back when servers were 200MHz. We run lots of Fusebox 3 apps on our server (dual 1ghz xeon) and the only time they're

FB4 book? (was "RE: "Discovering FB4.1" book comparison to FB4.0 edition?")

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
If the FB4.1 book hasn't shipped yet, what would be the recommended choice for an FB4 book if I wanted something to read for the weekend? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include

[OT, Python Quote] Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
"We are all individuals." "I'm not!" On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:59:35 +0800, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Follow the gourd!" > > "No, Follow the sandal!" > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-ba

Re: MySQL charging hard?

2005-02-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
yeah, I had a blast with MySQL back when I used it. It's pretty much what I learned on, and worked really well! Cheated with Navicat, so that made things much more pleasant as well. I like my GUI's! Is that such a bad thing? Will

Re: MySQL charging hard?

2005-02-17 Thread Rick Root
Will Tomlinson wrote: > What does everyone think about this? I used MySQL until I started using SP's. > Then I HAD to go with SQL Server for my needs. What will this mean for the db > market? In my department at Duke, we have databases in MySQL 4.1 and Oracle 9. I've found Oracle to be except

Re: "Discovering FB4.1" book comparison to FB4.0 edition?

2005-02-17 Thread Brian Kotek
It hasn't shipped yet, but should be very soon. On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:48:31 -0500, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone here read the Discovering Fusebox 4.1 book yet? If so, how > does it compare to the FB 4.0 book? I'm interested to see if it has > expanded the detail, and

"Discovering FB4.1" book comparison to FB4.0 edition?

2005-02-17 Thread Damien McKenna
Has anyone here read the Discovering Fusebox 4.1 book yet? If so, how does it compare to the FB 4.0 book? I'm interested to see if it has expanded the detail, and maybe improve on some of the complaints (see the comments on Amazon.com). Thanks. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTE

Re: CFTicket?

2005-02-17 Thread Cedric Villat
Rick, Sorry about our site being down. It should (hopefully) be up by the end of the week. If you have any questions or want me to setup a personal demo for you until the real demo comes back online, just let me know. Also, you should be able to log support calls by creating tickets manually fr

RE: MySQL charging hard?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What does everyone think about this? I used MySQL until I > started using SP's. Then I HAD to go with SQL Server for my > needs. What will this mean for the db market? Will, I used to be a die hard SQL Server fan forever and ever always a

MySQL charging hard?

2005-02-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
What does everyone think about this? I used MySQL until I started using SP's. Then I HAD to go with SQL Server for my needs. What will this mean for the db market? http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml;jsessionid=KNGJNLFGHQAMAQSNDBGCKHSCJUMEKJVN?articleId=60401366 Will

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
dang hes sure had a bugger up his bum lately! he lashed out at me too, course couldnt back it up, so.. ::grabs popcorn to watch this one :: From: Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sorry, but if you need insults to make your point, I won't > follow you in > that direction. Ok Claude, no problem. Good luck. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and con

RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-17 Thread dave
yup 2 of them (machine & router) and luckily i dont use xp much, only really when I need flash or sometimes dw btw~ off the record linux compatibilty for studio is coming :) whoo hoo!! From: James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2

RE: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread James Holmes
"Follow the gourd!" "No, Follow the sandal!" ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.c

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>I think you are just being an ass Sorry, but if you need insults to make your point, I won't follow you in that direction. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this addre

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I just said I was upgrading a FB application. So at least I > have an example. > Does it take years to understand and know the principles of FB? > Then how can it help? Well it would seem that after 9 years of coding, when you encountered s

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:23:26 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because my opinion doesn't match > yours is no reason to call me ignorant or uninformed. I have to say that Adam's habit of jumping on anyone who dares to criticize Plum is getting a bit tiring. I made some comments abou

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:53:51 -0500, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The best way for everyone to assess this is to download and install Plum, > then thorooughly read the Plum documentation. Assuming you are running a Windows machine with .NET installed... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://ww

Re: Getting Output To Display in Order Based on Calculations

2005-02-17 Thread ColdFusion Developer
You could use the calculated data set, create a new query using QueryNew and then do a Query of Queries (QoQ) and re-sort it that way, then display. A drawn out process but works. Les Mizzell wrote: >Page in Question: http://www.cyndustries.com/bugmusic_vote_completed.cfm > >(Unless you're into

Re: Why would Firefox cause CF to error??

2005-02-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
>Has anyone heard any more about this Session is Invalid issue? I last >heard from CT support two days ago, and nothing since... and I am >still having the problem. > james, they emailed me back and said they checked the config file and it was set to 30. Mine seems to be working fine now. Will

Re: Looking for a good web based html editor

2005-02-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
I agree with James. TinyMCE is nice! Easy to install and use. Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client

RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-17 Thread James Holmes
Please tell me you have a decent firewall, behind which this worm-magnet sits? -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 5:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) Whats funny is on this months install I havent put in an

RE: Looking for a good web based html editor

2005-02-17 Thread James Holmes
Even though this will start the same arguments we have had three times in the past month, I recommend TinyMCE http://tinymce.moxiecode.com. It does everything you asked for. -Original Message- From: Matthew Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 8:10 To: CF-Tal

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>9 years, none of which touch on FB... so how can you justify making comments about the Framework? I just said I was upgrading a FB application. So at least I have an example. Does it take years to understand and know the principles of FB? Then how can it help? -- _

Looking for a good web based html editor

2005-02-17 Thread Matthew Friedman
I am in need of a good browser base WYSIWYG editor that I can place in a form. I have used the ektron product but I need a version that is not an activeX, cross platform and requires no install. I know they have a flash version but I am not sure you can customize it. I also want to limit the fun

Re: Why would Firefox cause CF to error??

2005-02-17 Thread James Edmunds
Has anyone heard any more about this Session is Invalid issue? I last heard from CT support two days ago, and nothing since... and I am still having the problem. Thanks in advance, James On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:14:53 -0600, James Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that on its Forums, CT

Re: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> > I never really concidered OOP because I general make fairly small sites > > and really am shifting to RIA's, so seems like that would be a bit much > > for me, is it? > > I think OOP on the server is a good match for OOP on the client, which is > what you in a well-architected Flash RIA soluti

Getting Output To Display in Order Based on Calculations

2005-02-17 Thread Les Mizzell
Page in Question: http://www.cyndustries.com/bugmusic_vote_completed.cfm (Unless you're into very experimental electronic music I wouldn't advise listening to any of the pieces!! Otherwise, hide your cat!!!) There's a table holding the info for each piece There's a table where all the scores are

Re: Error consuming web services

2005-02-17 Thread Jehiah Czebotar
You might check to see if coldfusion has an old version of the wsdl cached in the coldfusion administrator. (ie: delete it from the list in coldfusion administrator, then try) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:34:56 -, A.Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, I must be doing s

RE: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread dave
dang Dave, nice 2 see the humor come out! :) mind you im not doing enterprise stuff here, seems like it takes longer to set up in OOP then just to make the damn thing. But know that I have seen where you can have as. files on the server and pull them into flash that way, it makes more sense.

RE: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Watts
> actually im not that bad, I just have a serious dislike for ms, just > one of those things that pisses me off. Really? I hadn't noticed. > I never really concidered OOP because I general make fairly small sites > and really am shifting to RIA's, so seems like that would be a bit much > for me,

Re: Form Builder

2005-02-17 Thread Greg Luce
We've been evaluating Quask Forms/Workflow software. Seems robust. We're more interested in the workflow system than pretty design. http://www.quask.com/en/home.asp Greg On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:47:11 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > Anyone heard of/used any

Re: cfqueryparam and performance

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Gaughan
Rick Root wrote: > I always thought of as primarily a security tag to help > avoid SQL injection. Honestly, I now think that's really a secondary > purpose. It's all about performance! > > We have a table with email addresses for some 80,000 alumni here at > Duke. When I do an email search

RE: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread dave
LMFAO :) actually im not that bad, I just have a serious dislike for ms, just one of those things that pisses me off. You know I may stir the pot but a lot of useful info comes out of it (someones gotta do it) " 3. When you do it right, everyone feels good about it." do you have a smoke afte

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Scott Stroz
I also tried Plum during the beta phase. I didn't like it...then again, I don't like lobster either. (and in both cases, I don't get all the hype) On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:23:26 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're missing 90% of Plum, Joe. > > Adam, you're very much underes

RE: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread Calvin Ward
Yes but dave finally posted something I enjoyed! j/k -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: speaking of OOP 1. This is really a CF-Community comment. 2. Those who are doing it right really en

RE: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
1. This is really a CF-Community comment. 2. Those who are doing it right really enjoy it. 3. When you do it right, everyone feels good about it. > "Object Oriented Code is like sex. More people talk about it than are > actually doing it. The few who are doing it are: doing it poorly, sure it > w

re: speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread dave
oops wrong list sry ;) From: "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: speaking of OOP "Object Oriented Code is like sex. More people talk about it than are actually doing it. The few who are doing it are:

Form Builder

2005-02-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Hey, Anyone heard of/used any decent Form building software to allow Joe Six Pack users to create HTML forms? Ideally written in ColdFusion. Preferably it would be advanced. Cost is not an issue. TIA This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1

speaking of OOP

2005-02-17 Thread dave
"Object Oriented Code is like sex. More people talk about it than are actually doing it. The few who are doing it are: doing it poorly, sure it will be better next time, and not practicing it safely." - Anonymous ~| Log

RE: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Matt Woodward has done some solid CF-OO stuff (http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/110), Hal has some articles on it as well (http://halhelms.com/). I'm doing a NYCFUG next week on OO and CF (http://nycfug.org). Read it all, look at the differences between each persons approach and listen to the

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Calvin Ward
I particularly enjoyed the use of the word 'uninitiated'. I'm familiar with Fusebox, where's my robe since I'm an initiate?!? At any rate, after having used Fusebox 3 for the last 6 months on a number of already developed apps, I can say that there are good ways and bad ways to build a Fusebox ap

RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-17 Thread dave
I guess what I was getting at is that any program thats fixes and patches take up more space then the actual program is pretty much a "broken" product. Thats weird with red hat, never heard that before but I haven't used red hat. I have or use suse 9.1 pro, suse 9.2 pro and one other (can't rem

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The question is not being in favor or not. The question is > that the approach claims it will make the application easier > to follow, and I find the application much harder to follow. > Ok, "it is because the FB application was not properly

Re: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Small
Thanks guys. I installed blackstone during the beta, and loved the documentation, but I wasn't sure if that documentation was going to be installed during the final release. I'll have him stick to the documentation in the new release. As far as the object oriented CF stuff out there goes...I've

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
> > > The question is not being in favor or not. The question is that the approach > claims > it will make the application easier to follow, and I find the application > much harder to follow. > Ok, "it is because the FB application was not properly structured", but isn't > FB supposed > to pr

RE: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Mike Nimer
I would have him start with the getting started experience, specifically the Snippet Explorer. The "getting started with cfml" node in the explorer is geared for the new user to learn CF, it covers the basics across the board starting with cfquery/cfoutput. So I'd have him start there, then work

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>Fusebox is a tool, like a hammer. Any tool is only >>worth the hands of its holder. With a hammer, it's just as easy to >>accidently destroy your thumb as it is to hammer in a nail. C'mon, fuses, circuits, now hammers,... enough with metaphors, periphases and parabolas ;-) If FB is like a ha

RE: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Watts
> Do I even WANT to get him any books at this point? He's still going to > have to know the basics of CFMX 6.1 and CFMX in general, but I wonder > how much better off he'd be just waiting for a CFMX 7 book. Most of the core functionality of CF hasn't changed with CFMX 7. If he needs to learn CFMX

RE: CFGRID layout control 2 questions...

2005-02-17 Thread Mike Nimer
Yea, just set the height big enough to hold all the rows. And there is a way to turn off all sorting, but not on some columns and not others. Just set sort="No" in the cfgrid tag. Hth, ---nimer -Original Message- From: Brendan OHara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 1

cfqueryparam and performance

2005-02-17 Thread Rick Root
I always thought of as primarily a security tag to help avoid SQL injection. Honestly, I now think that's really a secondary purpose. It's all about performance! We have a table with email addresses for some 80,000 alumni here at Duke. When I do an email search without using cfqueryparam ag

Re: CFTicket?

2005-02-17 Thread K0rneliuz Van Strauss XIV
It's definitely worthwhile!! I just spoke with Cedric, he said they are just experiencing a few server issues... they should be sorted shortly.. On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:30:41 -0500, Adkins, Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.mindkeeper.net/products/csc > > -Original Message- >

Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-17 Thread dave
yeah i know, thats a pretty piss poor answer if you ask me(not yours, theirs), pretty much sums them up. From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
now when i think of fusebox i think of myspace.com and thats gotta be the worse performing cfm app i have ever seen. From: Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Plum vs Adalon? > > - when you

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>You can't discredit an application or the ability to easily follow it just bacause you are not in >>favor of the approach. The question is not being in favor or not. The question is that the approach claims it will make the application easier to follow, and I find the application much hard

RE: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Calvin Ward
I agree, not only that, he may want to start reviewing some of the object oriented CF stuff out there as well. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Some advice? With all the do

cfregistry in cf7

2005-02-17 Thread Steve Brownlee
Every time I try to use the CFREGISTRY tag in CF7, it throws an exception (shown below). This is the only tag that's failing to work correctly. Anyone else have experience with this? If so, thanks in advance. Here's the error: - Unable to load library Here's the stack trace:

RE: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread dave
the main engine is still basicaly 6.1, so it wouldnt hurt to give him those releases ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a pro

CFGRID layout control 2 questions...

2005-02-17 Thread Brendan OHara
Nimer et al. Is there a way I can get a CFGRID to show all 8 rows and not show the scroll bar? Is there a way to disable sorting by clicking the column header? Brendan ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's custo

RE: Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > We hired a new programmer this week. He's not that familiar > with CF, but he'll get up to speed pretty quickly, and we > wanted to get him some books, but here's where I started > thinking too much... > > He's coming in at a perfect time, with th

Some advice?

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Small
We hired a new programmer this week. He's not that familiar with CF, but he'll get up to speed pretty quickly, and we wanted to get him some books, but here's where I started thinking too much... He's coming in at a perfect time, with the introduction of CFMX 7, and he's already installed it at

CFUNITED news, SQL interview, CFMX certification study group

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Smith
In this issue of ColdFusion conference and training news: 1. CFUNITED News and Q & A 2. Interview CF and SQL with SQL expert Joan Falcao 3. CFMX certification study group - new Thursday group TODAY Happy coding - Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/ PS Can you help TeraTech in th

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> > - when you look at the source code, find what's wrong, it > > takes hours to figure out which actual template the code comes from. Fusedocs exist for a reason. > That could stem from one of two things: a poorly structured FB application > or an uninformed developer in regards to FB. Right on

RE: CFTicket?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've contacted the site owner about it being down. > Whatever happened to CFTicket? Are they still around? Is the application > worthwhile for low-medium volumes of customer support? > > If not, can anyone recommend another CF (or other) web-based customer > support tracking application? > > TN

MORE: CFTicket?

2005-02-17 Thread Richard Colman
TNX for the reference. However, I also need a call log for customer support requests coming in by telephone. Any recommendations appreciated. Rick Colman -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - too many files are included, Are you looking at FB4? The only included files there come from the circuit files or the parsed fuseactions which you do not directly access anyway so not sure how this is a valid point. > - templates names

RE: CFTicket?

2005-02-17 Thread Adkins, Randy
http://www.mindkeeper.net/products/csc -Original Message- From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFTicket? Whatever happened to CFTicket? Are they still around? Is the application worthwhile for low-medium volumes

RE: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > This may very well be true, and this is exactly the trouble. > A good CF application, I'd say ANY application written in ANY > language, should be easily followed by any one who is good > enough in the language. I don't think you will find a

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Aaron Rouse
I understand your second point, whether it is valid or not is probably in the eye of the beholders. As far as Plum from what I gathered in the descriptions, it actually would be a well loved tool around here. Not necessarily by me, but by some of the people in this group. On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>just wondering if this is a case where if someone was then they could follow it easily. This may very well be true, and this is exactly the trouble. A good CF application, I'd say ANY application written in ANY language, should be easily followed by any one who is good enough in the language.

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>If the FB app is structured properly and you can read It is not the fact that the app is structured properly or not; As a matter of fact, I think it is. The problem is with the concept of the structure itself: it is sometimes 10 times more complicated than the whole application itself. - too

CFTicket?

2005-02-17 Thread Richard Colman
Whatever happened to CFTicket? Are they still around? Is the application worthwhile for low-medium volumes of customer support? If not, can anyone recommend another CF (or other) web-based customer support tracking application? TNX. Rick Colman ~~

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:13:51 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a complete aside, but shouldn't the "owner" of generated code > be the developer using it? As it is, every generated page comes out > "This code is Copyright (c) 2004 by Productivity Enhancement, Inc." > I'm no

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> >As it is, every generated page comes out > >"This code is Copyright (c) 2004 by Productivity Enhancement, Inc." > > Surely this cannot be true! Oversight on our part. The copyright should just appear in the pre-fabbed framework code. I don't think we have to get the Hague involved on this one

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adam Churvis
> This is a complete aside, but shouldn't the "owner" of generated code > be the developer using it? As it is, every generated page comes out > "This code is Copyright (c) 2004 by Productivity Enhancement, Inc." > I'm not sure if you meant to do this, but the legal implications of > this are enoug

RE: jwz on Groupware + one good reason to use cfqueryparam [was R e: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)]

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Watts
> For instance, what if the fields contain quotes? > > ... > > And it works! Now, that isn't the behaviour I'd expect, so what am > I missing? CF escapes the existing single quotes first from the argument given to ListQualify, then ListQualify adds them around each list item. It's the way it has

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
I would agree with everything Joe says here. Plum certainly has it's place in the market. How big that place is I don't know, but I'm sure a lot of people will find it useful to them. Having written a few frameworks myself and used quite a few others I know what works for me and a fundamental r

RE: Virtual Directories for Websites...follow-up remarks

2005-02-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
Good idea...thanks Kevin... Rick -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Virtual Directories for Websites...follow-up remarks Rick, Something you may want to consider is to have three instances o

RE: Virtual Directories for Websites...follow-up remarks

2005-02-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
Good idea, Calvin... Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Virtual Directories for Websites...follow-up remarks Cfide is a bit more tricky because it is required to administer your

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Adrocknaphobia
>As it is, every generated page comes out >"This code is Copyright (c) 2004 by Productivity Enhancement, Inc." Surely this cannot be true! >From my observation and in regards to past threads on Plum, it seems like they still cannot accurately say who they are targeting with this product. It surel

Re: Plum vs Fusebox4.1/Mach-II (was "RE: Plum vs Adalon?")

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> You're missing 90% of Plum, Joe. Adam, you're very much underestimating what I've done with Plum. I wouldn't talk about it if I hadn't looked at it in great detail. I've probably looked at the docs more extensively than most of your users, examined the custom tag library, used tools like the c

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
> Plum does too much in the way of generating application code > and too little in the way of providing powerful APIs that can be extended... Ok, so Spike can say in one sentence what takes me a couple of paragraphs to try to hint at. -- For Tabs, Trees, and more, use the jComponents: http://cl

Re: jwz on Groupware + one good reason to use cfqueryparam [was R e: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)]

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Gaughan
Dave Watts wrote: > I'm a big fan of CFQUERYPARAM, As any right-thinking person would be. > but this is a bad example to justify its use. You don't need to do all > that work. There's a function called ListQualify that takes care of > this for you: Forgot about that one! Cheers! > > SELECT

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Rinehart
Adam, I'm not trying to attack Plum. If I was, I'd say something silly and offensive. My observations come after using Plum, trying it out, and taking some of its guts apart. > The way it works, > what it contains, how applications are organized, and how Plum applications > are written. The wa

Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
> > You can't use Plum in conjunction with Fusebox or any other > framework,as there would be no need. There is nothing that > another framework could add to what Plum already has. > That statement nicely sums up a couple of resons why I will probably never use Plum. In its current form at

RE: Virtual Directories for Websites...follow-up remarks

2005-02-17 Thread Kevin Graeme
Rick, Something you may want to consider is to have three instances of a site: dev, test, and production. Dev - where you break a site Test - where they look at a site while you're free to break the one on dev Production - the final site We used to have just a development site and a production

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