Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-08 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
building apps. I work incrementally and it drives me nuts. - Original Message From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:57:18 AM Subject: RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? > I guess we'll disagree on this. Th

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-08 Thread Rey Bango
and I know you're one of the best out there so give me some details. > I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not saying you shouldn't use > AJAX, or HTML, or anything else. I'm not saying that you should immediately > rewrite everything in Flex. What I am

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-08 Thread Dave Watts
ere when people initially did remote > scripting before it was called Ajax but there's just too much > good technology out there now to call it a band-aid. The fact that it's easy to do AJAX development is irrelevant. The fact is that HTML and HTTP weren't designed to deliver a

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-08 Thread James Holmes
Or Apollo. That's the whole point of it; freeing internet technologies from the restrictions of the browser. On 4/8/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If you need to build a desktop application, then use > desktop development tools such as MS' suite of .Net tools. > > I'm still not convince

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-08 Thread Rey Bango
try that out with ScrapBlog and see how it performs. I'm really interested in seeing how it does as that would help me form a better opinion. > I've worked extensively with those same technologies before anyone came up > with names like "AJAX" and "Web 2.0",

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-08 Thread Dave Watts
or a variety of connection > types and bandwidth requirements, Ajax is better suited and > provides excellent features for providing desktop-like > functionality. Flex applications can work pretty well without any more bandwidth than a typical web application. The big limitation is the requi

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
al Message- From: James Holmes To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Apr 08 03:14:07 2007 Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Of course Flex is one of the primary development platforms for Apollo... On 4/8/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For sure, Fle

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Rey Bango
> And finally, Flex is a much better solution for applications than AJAX, > which is a collection of band-aids applied to the sucking wound that is HTML > interface development. I think Flex is a better solution for developing desktop-like applications that have a requirement of

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread James Holmes
Of course Flex is one of the primary development platforms for Apollo... On 4/8/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For sure, Flex has some kick ass neat stuff and I can see where it does make > sense (if I look hard enough), but I think that Apollo as an RIA makes more > se

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the perspective, Jim... -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? > -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
ation are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Apr 07 21:47:24 2007 Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wro

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Paul Hastings
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > "And finally, Flex is a much better solution for applications than AJAX, > which is a collection of band-aids applied to the sucking wound that is HTML > interface development." > > In your opinion :-) ditto for yours that flex isn'

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
"And finally, Flex is a much better solution for applications than AJAX, which is a collection of band-aids applied to the sucking wound that is HTML interface development." In your opinion :-) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond,

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Dave Watts
time it takes you to learn something new), you should be able to find out fairly quickly with the trial. And finally, Flex is a much better solution for applications than AJAX, which is a collection of band-aids applied to the sucking wound that is HTML interface development. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Andy Matthews
Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Rick, Neil said it perfectly. Its good to know the ins and outs of Ajax but more specifically, DOM manipulation. Ajax functionality is a very small aspect of what everyone regards as Web 2.0-style development and whether you're using jQuery, Prototy

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? > > Hi, all.. > > Just wanted to throw this out for some perspective. >

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
rom: Casey Dougall To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Apr 07 18:33:04 2007 Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Dreamweaver CS3 will have SPRY built in... ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
arily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Apr 07 18:33:04 2007 Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Dreamweaver CS3 will have SPR

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Casey Dougall
Dreamweaver CS3 will have SPRY built in... ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.c

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
And Rey said it perfectly. The vanilla toucher of Ajax wants it like CFML - all fluffy like, it's not and you need to learn/know JS to a degree (well any web developer should know at least the most basic DOM manipulation and JS). "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway Hou

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
sarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: James Holmes To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Apr 07 16:08:47 2007 Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? If by "rubbish" you mean the most productive

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Paul Hastings
Rick Faircloth wrote: > I guess Flex is an option, but I've tried working with Flash with every > version that has come out, and I've hated working with the Flash timeline. the timeline has gone bye-bye as far as flex is concerned. > why I would even consider it. And there also the face that I h

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Rey Bango
> Flex and AJAX both have their place and they can both be very uselful > - they can even work with one another using the Flex-AJAX bridge. Yep, very true. The only thing that Adobe has not effectively done is clarify when either technology should be used. I really think that needs

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Rey Bango
Rick, Neil said it perfectly. Its good to know the ins and outs of Ajax but more specifically, DOM manipulation. Ajax functionality is a very small aspect of what everyone regards as Web 2.0-style development and whether you're using jQuery, Prototype or whatever CF8 provides, you ne

RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
#x27;m already purchasing CF 8... Rick -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Rick Faircloth wrote: > For a few years I've been wanting t

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread James Holmes
If by "rubbish" you mean the most productive way to produce a rich internet app, then sure, I'm in agreement :-) Flex and AJAX both have their place and they can both be very uselful - they can even work with one another using the Flex-AJAX bridge. On 4/7/07, Robertson-Ravo,

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
at Apr 07 15:22:14 2007 Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later? Rick Faircloth wrote: > For a few years I've been wanting to get in on the Ajax-style development. why not flex? ~| ColdFusion MX7

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Paul Hastings
Rick Faircloth wrote: > For a few years I've been wanting to get in on the Ajax-style development. why not flex? ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free

Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
No harm in learning the ins and outs now, as undoubtedly the Adobe integration will hand feed the developer and when you need to something more advanced you will be pinging lists asking how (which of course is what lists are for) An hour or so would familiarise you with Ajax development to a

A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?

2007-04-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, all.. Just wanted to throw this out for some perspective. For a few years I've been wanting to get in on the Ajax-style development. However, dealing with javascript was just going to take more time than I could spare and keep up with project demands, since I have no experience wi

Re: Coldfusion/jQuery: Making AJAX calls to a CFC living outside of the webroot

2007-04-05 Thread Barney Boisvert
No, you can only call web-accessible templates via the web (whether they're CFM or CFC). If you have a remote service, why isn't it in your webroot? If it's not a remote service, then you WANT to have a middleman (though it's typically a facade CFC, not a CFM). And if you're using ColdSpring, it

Coldfusion/jQuery: Making AJAX calls to a CFC living outside of the webroot

2007-04-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Right now my JS looks like this: $.get("psychic.cfm", {method:idArr[0],key:idArr[1]}, function(data){ //do some stuff }); psychic.cfm contains the following code: #func(URL.key)# It's the only way that I can think of to call a CFC outside of my webroot. I don't like having to do this as it r

RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Ben Nadel
jQuery is very cool. I am new to it. However, jQuery only does the client side of things. The Server side is pretty much up to you. There are several CF solutions out there. I have not looked into them (as I am very new to AJAX also). Here is what I have been working on: http://www.bennadel.com

RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231
jquery reminds of DynApi JS library. thanks all... -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF + Ajax On the jquery list, you can feel very comfortable posting your cfml+cfc+jquery+javascript code

RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Andy Matthews
ct: RE: CF + Ajax That would be awesome but when I try and subscribe. Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9.cp1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaste

RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231
this information in the Mailman error logs. -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF + Ajax On the jquery list, you can feel very comfortable posting your cfml+cfc+jquery+javascript code knowing that y

RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Michael E. Carluen
- > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:20 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF + Ajax > > Look into jQuery.com. > > Many CF programmers on this list are using it. > > -Original Message- > From: Bader, Terrence C

Re: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Christopher Jordan
t. Back into doing more CF >>> programming with some pretty decent applications in the works. >>> >>> What I am interested in at the moment is seeing what people are doing for >>> their Ajax applications. i.e. libraries, functions, cfcs, etc. >>> >>>

Re: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
http://jQuery.com. > > Cheers, > Chris > > Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231 wrote: > >>Hey all, been years since I have been on this list. Back into doing more CF >>programming with some pretty decent applications in the works. >> >>What I am interested in at

Re: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Christopher Jordan
in at the moment is seeing what people are doing for > their Ajax applications. i.e. libraries, functions, cfcs, etc. > > Thanks... > > ~Terry > > > ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 &

RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Andy Matthews
Look into jQuery.com. Many CF programmers on this list are using it. -Original Message- From: Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF + Ajax Hey all, been years since I have been on this list. Back into

CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231
Hey all, been years since I have been on this list. Back into doing more CF programming with some pretty decent applications in the works. What I am interested in at the moment is seeing what people are doing for their Ajax applications. i.e. libraries, functions, cfcs, etc. Thanks

Re: Update cart items without reloading--AJAX?

2007-03-19 Thread Rey Bango
Megan, If you want the page to be refreshed without a reload, then the easiest way is to use some form of Ajax call. With that said, I would recommend looking into any of the number of top-notch libraries out their that will make this task easier. These include: jQuery - my personal choice

Update cart items without reloading--AJAX?

2007-03-19 Thread megan cytron
or the simplest implementation for the lowest common denominator (within reason). I was thinking of dabbling in AJAX (which I know next to nothing about)? Or is there a simpler way (aside from using frames, which I refuse to do...). muchas gracias, Megan Cytron Alpha 60 Design Sho

Re: SOT: Ajax for both CF and ASP.NET

2007-03-06 Thread Rey Bango
very well supported on both platforms from a community perspective. Rey... Ian Skinner wrote: > Our ASP.NET programmers just discovered AJAX this past weekend and now want > it installed on all our servers. > > Of course I was talking about AJAX over a year ago, but I'm ju

Re: SOT: Ajax for both CF and ASP.NET

2007-03-06 Thread Christopher Jordan
Since you prolly won't end up using the same Ajax Framework, I'd suggest Rob Gonda's AjaxCFC for the ColdFusion side of stuff. I'd further recommend the jQuery branch of that framework. Chris Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > Ajax is just JS, it doesn't real

RE: Ajax for both CF and ASP.NET

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Matthews
Give jQuery a look. Www.jquery.com People are using it with CF, Asp, PHP and more. -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Ajax for both CF and ASP.NET Our ASP.NET programmers just discovered AJAX

Re: SOT: Ajax for both CF and ASP.NET

2007-03-06 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Ajax is just JS, it doesn't really require an install so any language which can call / use an XMLhttp object will server you just fine. Microsoft obviously has it's own implementation of it - it used to be called Atlas now I think it is just Microsoft Ajax. Any one of the Frameworks

SOT: Ajax for both CF and ASP.NET

2007-03-06 Thread Ian Skinner
Our ASP.NET programmers just discovered AJAX this past weekend and now want it installed on all our servers. Of course I was talking about AJAX over a year ago, but I'm just the lone remaining CF programmer, so what do I know, but that is a separate gripe. Anyway, my question is there an

Re: CF and AJAX

2007-03-06 Thread Mingo Hagen
+1 to JSMX Have used both AjaxCFC and JSMX in production webapplications, and I think JSMX is a bit easier to grasp and a more lightweight. I have recommended AjaxCFC in the past and will continue to do so, but I have to say JSMX is currently on top of my list. I haven't checked any other

RE: CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Michael E. Carluen
I agree with Chris, and Josh with jQuery on AjaxCFC. But for the record, you can go implement Ajax on CF with jQuery only. AjaxCFC just includes several built-in features like better error handling etc- to make life just a little bit better ;)... > -Original Message- > From

Re: CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Josh Nathanson
> Once you've read up on how Ajax works, and you think you understand the > concepts, I'd suggest using Rob Gonda's AjaxCFC. I was just writing essentially the same email when the above posted. +1 jQuery, +1 AjaxCFC Super duper easy to get up a

Re: CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Raymond Camden
TED]> wrote: > Ok, I am a newbie to AJAX. Can anyone point me in the right direction for > tutorials/information on this? > > Thanks! > > -Jim H > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterpri

Re: CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Christopher Jordan
Jim, Once you've read up on how Ajax works, and you think you understand the concepts, I'd suggest using Rob Gonda's AjaxCFC. He has two branches of the code one works with a library called DWR (Direct Web Remoting) and jQuery. I *highly* recommend using the jQuery branch.

Re: CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
ook into something like jQuery (which is high on my list of "things to check out when I have time (tm)") On 3/5/07, Jim H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I am a newbie to AJAX. Can anyone point me in the right direction for > t

Re: CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Rey Bango
Jim, Start with understanding the basics. I started with HeadStart Ajax and moved on from there to reading up on the various frameworks available. Also, be sure to pick up Ajax In Action which is another great book. Rey... Jim H wrote: > Ok, I am a newbie to AJAX. Can anyone point me in

CF and AJAX

2007-03-05 Thread Jim H
Ok, I am a newbie to AJAX. Can anyone point me in the right direction for tutorials/information on this? Thanks! -Jim H ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIA’s for your business. Upgrade

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Dinner
Thank you Rey, for your answers! More inline: On 2/27/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Howz the jQuery sources? > > Not sure what you mean. If you're asking how tight the code is, I'd have > to say VERY and constantly being optimized. We use subversion for > maintenance and Trac

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Scott
ets. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 11:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? Hi Andre

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
hi Dinner, Dinner wrote: > LOL. 90% of the time it's fastest to just peek at the dojo sources-- > it's pretty straight forward from there-- which makes me wonder-- > > Howz the jQuery sources? Not sure what you mean. If you're asking how tight the code is, I'd have to say VERY and constantly b

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
Hi Andrew, Andrew Scott wrote: > Yes I can see that, well the only thing that I couldn’t find was how to > write a plugin. With Dojo this is very simple to do, and it might be for > jQuery but I just didn’t see it in the docs. http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins/Authoring > Now one thing I have notic

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Scott
Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? > Now one thing I have noticed so correct me if I am wrong, everything seems > to be

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Dinner
On 2/27/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a few things that I could not find on the website on how to do > something, but hey I will admit the docs are far easier to search through > than Dojo's.. Dojo has docs!?!?! Aww. Gonna have to lose the "powered by Real Men"

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Josh Nathanson
> Now one thing I have noticed so correct me if I am wrong, everything seems > to be based on Ids? Is that correct. It's not based on ids, you can select your DOM elements any old way you want. $("input") selects all inputs $("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") selects a select element named "myselect" $("div.

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Scott
4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 10:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? What didn't you find Andrew? Let me know and maybe I can help. Also, dedicate a couple of hours to jQuery,

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
What didn't you find Andrew? Let me know and maybe I can help. Also, dedicate a couple of hours to jQuery, just as a proof of concept. Dojo is VERY powerful but so is jQuery. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Rey... Andrew Scott wrote: > Well, what can I say... > > I decided to check jQ

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Scott
Well, what can I say... I decided to check jQuery out again as I haven't seen its progression and let me say that I am very impressed with the amount of work that has gone into this project in such a short time. There are a few things that I could not find on the website on how to do something, b

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
Nope. That was more like a "Ha! Good one." ;) Real men (manly men) don't "tee-he-he", or "giggle". ;) Rey Dinner wrote: > Don't you mean "tee-he-he", or "giggle"? :))) > > On 2/27/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ha! >> >> Rey >> >> Dinner wrote: I frankly couldn't care les

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Dinner
Don't you mean "tee-he-he", or "giggle"? :))) On 2/27/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha! > > Rey > > Dinner wrote: > >> I frankly couldn't care less what framework people use, after all it is > >> their choice. > > > > But real men (manly men) use Dojo. ~~

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2007-02-27 Thread Michael Smith
troduction to Adobe's AJAX frame work including examples of Spry/ColdFusion integration. Afraid of Ajax complexities but need to add it to your site? Then check out this talk. Raymond is a long time ColdFusion user, Raymond is a Adobe Community Expert and one of the managers of the Acadiana M

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
Ha! Rey Dinner wrote: >> I frankly couldn't care less what framework people use, after all it is >> their choice. > > But real men (manly men) use Dojo. > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Dinner
> I frankly couldn't care less what framework people use, after all it is > their choice. But real men (manly men) use Dojo. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Free Trial htt

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
13 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 9:08 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? > > I don't think it makes it better but it most certainly helps t

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Scott
: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 9:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? I don't think it makes it better but it most certainly helps to have plenty of support when you're starting off. Being part of the jQuery team, I can tell you that ensuring the success of CF developers using

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
b 27 22:35:30 2007 Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? Dude, please take a look at jQuery. With your Prototype background you'll take to it like nothing. And now that Jack Slocum is working with us to port YUI-Ext (now called Ext) to jQuery, the UI library will be insane. Check out the ar

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
is > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Tue Feb 27 22:16:00 2007 > Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? > > Absolutely

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rey Bango To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Feb 27 22:16:00 2007 Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? Absolutely. Which one are you using Neil? Have you taken a look at jQuery yet? Rey... Robe

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
Absolutely. Which one are you using Neil? Have you taken a look at jQuery yet? Rey... Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > Indeed, as there are loads of libs to choose from! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 &

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
ngo To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Feb 27 22:08:00 2007 Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? I don't think it makes it better but it most certainly helps to have plenty of support when you're starting off. Being part of the jQuery team, I can tell you that ensuring the success of CF developers using

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Rey Bango
inal Message- > From: Andy Matthews > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Tue Feb 27 21:33:11 2007 > Subject: RE: Ajax and CF question? > > But they're not as vocal. > > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, Feb

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
ent: Tue Feb 27 21:33:11 2007 Subject: RE: Ajax and CF question? But they're not as vocal. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? And just as many CF'ers are taking

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andy Matthews
But they're not as vocal. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CF question? And just as many CF'ers are taking up www.dojotoolkit.org as well On 2/28/07, Michael E. Carlu

Re: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Scott
a number excellent CF coders to answer any of your > CF+jQuery implementation questions (newbies-friendly of course). > > See you there Che! > > Michael > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday

RE: Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Michael E. Carluen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:09 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Ajax and CF question? > > Take a look at the following page. It pulls information from the > Amazon.com > web service. > http://typedhype.com/bpp/displayresults.cfm?f=2&s=Books&a

Ajax and CF question?

2007-02-27 Thread Che Vilnonis
database by checking individual checkboxes. Has anyone done something similar to this with CF and Ajax? I could do this using the tried and true FORM based approach, but I was looking for a more elegant solution. Thanks, Ché ~| Co

Re: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Rey Bango
Hi John, Do you suggest that as a complimentary method? Also, this should take the form of a progressive enhancement correct? Rey... John Dowdell wrote: > Richard Cooper wrote: >> My question is what is the best way to cope with using back button and >> bookmarks. > > Putting an "undo" button

Re: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread John Dowdell
Richard Cooper wrote: > My question is what is the best way to cope with using back button and > bookmarks. Putting an "undo" button in your interface helps people avoid wondering "If I hit the browser's back button will I still go back to the previous HTML page?" jd -- John Dowdell . Ad

Re: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Rey Bango
Thats very cool! Since I already use jQuery, I'm covered but I'll have keep this for future reference. Rey... Qasim Rasheed wrote: > This is a library without using JQuery > > http://codinginparadise.org/weblog/2005/08/ajax-tutorial-saving-session-across.html > > Th

Re: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Qasim Rasheed
This is a library without using JQuery http://codinginparadise.org/weblog/2005/08/ajax-tutorial-saving-session-across.html Thanks Qasim On 2/23/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tackling the back button in Ajax isn't a trivial task and has really > frustrated

Re: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Rey Bango
Tackling the back button in Ajax isn't a trivial task and has really frustrated a lot of developers. Several of the frameworks out there offer back button support so you may want to consider switching. As Andy mentioned, jQuery (www.jquery.com) offers a plugin that supports this function

Re: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Richard Cooper
Cheers Andy, I'll check that out now. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion

RE: AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Andy Matthews
The jQuery library has a "back button" plugin that automatically manages back button clicks. It works a treat. -Original Message- From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: AJAX & back button Hi all, I'

AJAX & back button

2007-02-23 Thread Richard Cooper
Hi all, I've a site that has a lot of onclick content changes using ajax. I'm a creature of habit and have been using the same framework I started with, Simple AJAX Code-Kit. My question is what is the best way to cope with using back button and bookmarks. Should I change framewo

Field level edits (with AJAX) (was: Re: "Change Log"...)

2007-02-22 Thread Dinner
On 2/21/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All AJAX is is JavaScript. It's not really something different. > > XHTMLHTTPRequest stuff could have been done with frames/whatnot. > > Or was done, I guess I'd stipulate. > > You're missing m

AJAX: Goes everywhere? (was Re: "Change Log"...)

2007-02-22 Thread Dinner
On 2/21/07, Andy Tyrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, actually, once you go AJAX, you kinda want it > > everywhere. It truly > > is a different way of doing stuff than the old "static" way. > > What's that > > quote... we'

Re: CF Ajax Poll system

2007-02-19 Thread Jacob Munson
]> wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm thinking about creating a open source Ajax poll system and > wondered if anyone else has anything already? If not then i'll crack > on. What would people look for in it and would anyone want to get > involved? > > Nick > &g

CF Ajax Poll system

2007-02-19 Thread Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk
Hi list, I'm thinking about creating a open source Ajax poll system and wondered if anyone else has anything already? If not then i'll crack on. What would people look for in it and would anyone want to get involved? Nick -- Nick Tong web: http://talkwebsolutions.

New proposal for 2 phase ajax captcha

2007-02-02 Thread Dov Katz
CFC (let's say AjaxCaptcha.cfc) and make use of LylaCaptcha and AjaxCFC or some other AJAX cfc type component... (all below is pseudocode at best) Methods: [- AjaxCaptcha.CFC -] CreateCaptchaPrompt(){ returns JSON object with Hash text, and ImageURL (the path to th

Re: Ajax, RIA, and JavaScript

2007-02-01 Thread Rey Bango
open question: > > > > We are going back through our application and trying to introduce more > Ajax where we can to dynamically add content when we can instead of > reloading the entire page. Example: we often use a tabbed interface, > and for performance reasons, we only load

Ajax, RIA, and JavaScript

2007-02-01 Thread Brad Wood
Ok, here's a wide open question: We are going back through our application and trying to introduce more Ajax where we can to dynamically add content when we can instead of reloading the entire page. Example: we often use a tabbed interface, and for performance reasons, we only loa

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