Re: Should I migrate away from ColdSpring

2015-03-21 Thread Russ Michaels
I am happy to offer free hosting to get the site back up. On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 0:10 AM, Nolan Erck wrote: FYI, on the ColdSpring Google group there is now a small discussion about the ColdSpring docs and making sure they have a good home on a server somewhere. -Nolan On Fri, Mar 20

Re: Should I migrate away from ColdSpring

2015-03-20 Thread Dean Lawrence
Great! Thanks for the heads up, Nolan. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM Nolan Erck wrote: > > FYI, on the ColdSpring Google group there is now a small discussion about > the ColdSpring docs and making sure they have a good home on a server > somewhere. > > -Nolan > > >

Re: Should I migrate away from ColdSpring

2015-03-20 Thread Nolan Erck
FYI, on the ColdSpring Google group there is now a small discussion about the ColdSpring docs and making sure they have a good home on a server somewhere. -Nolan On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Dean Lawrence wrote: > > Thanks, Nolan, I appreciate your insights. I'm pretty much

Re: Should I migrate away from ColdSpring

2015-03-20 Thread Dean Lawrence
Thanks, Nolan, I appreciate your insights. I'm pretty much on the same page as you, but I guess I am mainly concerned that with the ColdSpring site apparently gone, that I can't even get to the documentation to try to either troubleshoot an issue or even expand on features that I have

Re: Should I migrate away from ColdSpring

2015-03-19 Thread Nolan Erck
I like ColdSpring. I like having "XML documentation" for that layer of my codebase. As such, I have several sites that I don't plan to migrate to DI/1 or WireBox. I also do a lot of Java consulting work, and switching from Spring (Java) to ColdSpring (CFML) is less painful for my

Should I migrate away from ColdSpring

2015-03-19 Thread Dean Lawrence
I've been using ColdSpring for a good number of years and it is pretty much a part of almost every site that I have developed. When trying to access http://coldspringframework.org/ to look at the docs, I get a service unavailable error. It was like this when I tried to access it about a mont

Re: Coldspring docs?

2012-06-07 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, I know this sucks. A new server is coming I promise. I have no control over this one, so I have to bug someone who has to bug someone... In the mean time - web archive to the rescue! http://web.archive.org/web/20110716211542/http://www.coldspringframework.org/index.cfm/go/documentation M

Coldspring docs?

2012-06-07 Thread Jason Durham
Coldspringframework.org is down. Are the docs for 1.2 hosted somewhere that is currently accessible? I already found the 2.0 docs on SourceForge.net. Jason Durham ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon

Re: Coldspring question - what causes this error?

2010-05-17 Thread Brian Kotek
Just updating as this was resolved on the ColdSpring list: the issue was a missing frameworkProperties.properties file in the ColdSpring root directory. Mike had deleted this file without realizing that it was necessary. Thanks, Brian On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Mike Kear wrote: >

Coldspring question - what causes this error?

2010-05-17 Thread Mike Kear
s generated when the coldspring instantiation happens. The error goes away when I comment out the lines: I have found when I put a fresh copy of Coldspring1.2 in the site, the problem sometimes goes away, but I'd like to know what causes it so I don't have to keep uploading the w

Re: Mac II or ColdSpring

2010-02-19 Thread denstar
If you're going to be doing a lot of report type stuff, I'd recommend looking at JasperServer. It's the bee's knees. Exports in PDF, Excel, RTF, blah, blah, blah. You can run the reports from ColdFusion too, either using the JasperServer webservice or just running the reports "by hand" using a

Re: Mac II or ColdSpring

2010-02-18 Thread James Holmes
It's really worth becoming familiar with Framework one: http://fw1.riaforge.org/ mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 19 February 2010 01:22, Dominic Watson wrote: > > Mach II and Coldspring are not setup to achieve the same thing

Re: Mac II or ColdSpring

2010-02-18 Thread Charlie Griefer
You do realize that most of what you're asking isn't the function of a framework and the framework itself would really have no part in any of the items you listed. Also, as Dominic pointed out, Mach ii and ColdSpring address different areas of concerns. Mach-ii (and ColdBox and F

Re: Mac II or ColdSpring

2010-02-18 Thread Dominic Watson
This looks more helpful than my response: http://www.remotesynthesis.com/post.cfm/Mach-II-or-ColdSpring-Understanding-the-Differences-Between-ColdFusion-Frameworks Dominic On 18 February 2010 17:22, Dominic Watson wrote: > Mach II and Coldspring are not setup to achieve the same thing.

Re: Mac II or ColdSpring

2010-02-18 Thread Dominic Watson
Mach II and Coldspring are not setup to achieve the same thing. You could use ColdSpring *within* Mach II. More suitable comparisons to Mach II: * Model glue * Fusebox * ColdBox * CFWheels * ...others that I'm not familiar with I have not used ColdBox or CFWheels and I've only glimps

Mac II or ColdSpring

2010-02-18 Thread sandeep saini
Guys, We are creating a new website and i have to lay down the architecture for that. Its basically a reporting tool which will fetch data from DB and display. The data can be few records to Thousands of records depending on search criteria. we have to create about 15 reports. The client want

Re: returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Glyn Jackson wrote: > > @ Judah McAuley > > thanks very detailed response. its just a simple record set to display. So > what your saying makes sense. Of course. It has taken me some time to figure it out myself and without the help of others I wouldn't be at the

Re: returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-20 Thread Glyn Jackson
@ Judah McAuley thanks very detailed response. its just a simple record set to display. So what your saying makes sense. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion

Re: returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-19 Thread Dominic Watson
Agreed. Indeed, a cfquery object *is* an object. I find the cfquery object is particular perfect for views because it is read-only in terms of interacting with the source of the data. I personally use the IBO approach and release the query object when ready to output the data - but that's just me

Re: returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-19 Thread Judah McAuley
Using a query doesn't mean you aren't programming in an OO fashion. You can keep your encapsulation while still returning a query or you could turn the query into an array of objects as you desire. In your adminUserService you could have a method called GetAllAdminUsers that calls GetAllAdminUse

Re: returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-19 Thread Glyn Jackson
Thanks for the reply. reading my question back it did not make much sense, so you did well to work out what I was on about lol! >I'd go with a query unless you have a particular reason not to. no reason, that would be the way I would normally do it, however if I wanted to try and keep this st

Re: returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-18 Thread Kevan Stannard
Hi Glyn, couple of options: 1) If you only need a query, then just return a query. Not ideal, not OO, breaks encapsulation, but does not suffer performance or memory issues. 2) Use an "iterating business object" which is just like a bean with getters but also has a next() function to move to the

returning all table records ColdBox & ColdSpring via an object?

2009-08-18 Thread Glyn Jackson
Confused about how I would go about returning all records from a table from my DAO? this is how I would return a record with an ID (see below), however when returning all records needed for a cfloop i am not sure. handler variables.adminUsersService.getUserByID(userBean); <-- access service p

Re: ColdBox and ColdSpring Login

2009-08-16 Thread Glyn Jackson
Thanks Kevan quote: user object would be stored in the session rather than just the username. Interesting idea, thanks makes way more sense. PS, thank you for the link, just what I was looking for. Glyn. >> if I should be do this all in my service, or should I come out again with >the userna

Re: ColdBox and ColdSpring Login

2009-08-15 Thread Kevan Stannard
> if I should be do this all in my service, or should I come out again with the username > and run the bean.setUserSession() in the handler? I'd keep everything behind the service (or even other objects beyond that) and not put session related code in your handler. I'd also keep session code out

ColdBox and ColdSpring Login

2009-08-15 Thread Glyn Jackson
leading on from my last example which would be the best way to the following... 1) get the username from the database to store in a session 2) log them in I was thinking about added the following in my handler after the validation checks.. variables.adminUsersService.doLogin(userBean);//Login U

Re: singletons ColdSpring and ColdBox

2009-07-26 Thread Glyn Jackson
Sorry it makes more sense now I have read this... http://www.coldspringframework.org/coldspring/examples/quickstart/index.cfm?page=factory ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on

Re: singletons ColdSpring and ColdBox

2009-07-26 Thread Glyn Jackson
So is my common.cfc classed as a singleton? >ColdSpring should generally only be used to create and manage >singletons, if that answers the question. > >mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: >http://www.bifr

Re: singletons ColdSpring and ColdBox

2009-07-26 Thread James Holmes
ColdSpring should generally only be used to create and manage singletons, if that answers the question. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2009/7/26 Glyn Jackson : > > I have another question regarding ColdSpring and ColdBox. I will be us

singletons ColdSpring and ColdBox

2009-07-26 Thread Glyn Jackson
I have another question regarding ColdSpring and ColdBox. I will be using it to create a bean on the init() method of my handler, I will not create the object again after that. This bean contains all my SQL and database interactions (example below). My question is, singletons. is this ok, I

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-26 Thread Sean Corfield
all the USER cfcs together and all the CONTENT cfcs > together and all the CATALOG cfcs together etc.  With comments between > the sections of the XML file, so they are easy to find. Another useful trick is to use the directive so you can break your ColdSpring XML file down into multip

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-25 Thread Mike Kear
One of the minor side-effects of the way ColdSpring easily handles more and more complexity is that I found my ColdSpring XML file got out of control unless I took an organised approach to the layout. My first few ColdSpring sites had about 20 CFCs or so to manage, and without thinking much

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-25 Thread Glyn Jackson
e to > (I dont know what I would be looking for) > > As the number of CFCs being created / initialized increases, the > benefits of ColdSpring increase because you don't need all that code > inside your CFCs ("this could have been all done in the init() method > or I

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-24 Thread Sean Corfield
itialized increases, the benefits of ColdSpring increase because you don't need all that code inside your CFCs ("this could have been all done in the init() method or I could have extended the CFC or I could have passed in the details from config CFC without ColdSpring"). That means that d

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-24 Thread Glyn Jackson
Thanks Mr Corfield, perfect. last question I promise (fingers crossed). I am just playing with ColdSpring, however maybe I am missing the point with what I have done in the example so far. this could have been all done in the init() method or I could have extended the CFC or I could have

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-24 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Glyn Jackson wrote: > I think I have it now in my handler... > >  variables.oUserService = > getPlugin("ioc").getBean("UserService").getUserGateway(); > > and i now see all common.cfc methods is this right? If it has autowire by name enabled. Otherwise you need a

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Glyn Jackson
I think I have it now in my handler... variables.oUserService = getPlugin("ioc").getBean("UserService").getUserGateway(); and i now see all common.cfc methods is this right? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with so

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Glyn Jackson
how about below would this allow me to call any method from common.cfc using the user service bean. DBDetails userservice.cfc

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Glyn Jackson
sorry, so do i go back to how I was before... but then how does UserService know what common? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the H

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Sean Corfield
e > user service is called... Ah, I misunderstood your code... > User Service > OK, *this* component needs to be managed by ColdSpring. >         output="false" hint="Set the UserGateway."> >                 hint="UserGateway" /> >            

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Glyn Jackson
PS would i also not have to change my User Service as all i want to do is call my User Service and have common available otherwise I dont see the point i can set this in init method. i.e would it be something like so only the user service is called... User Service

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Glyn Jackson
Hi Sean, thanks for the reply. Quote: Common.cfc has to be managed by ColdSpring for the dependency injection to take place So the dependency injection would be... Quote: Your XML has the bean named userGateway which doesn't seem right (since you h

Re: Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Sean Corfield
Common.cfc has to be managed by ColdSpring for the dependency injection to take place. I.e., you need: ... etc ... And you need to get the "common" bean from ColdSpring wherever you use it. Your XML has the bean named userGateway which doesn't seem right (since you have a pr

Coldbox and ColdSpring How to?

2009-07-23 Thread Glyn Jackson
I am trying to get my head around ColdBox and ColdSpring (manly ColdSpring) so please be kind and any example code with comments would be much appreciate. My question I have a CFC called model/common.cfc This CFC contains all my SQL code that interacts with the database. However in

CanvasWiki / Coldspring / ModelGlue

2009-04-24 Thread Brent Nicholas
Howdy all, So I've got CanvasWiki from Raymond Camden running. Works great. Now I need to impliment our internal security systems. I've found where to put the code and all, but no matter what I do: * cfsetting debugging = Y * cfdump * cffunction output = Y I can't get any debugging to be outp

RE: Coldspring docs?

2008-05-30 Thread Jason Durham
Thank you sir. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldspring docs? Try this page: http://coldspringframework.org/docs/ Also, there is a ColdSpring specific mailing list: http://groups.google.com

Re: Coldspring docs?

2008-05-30 Thread Matt Williams
Try this page: http://coldspringframework.org/docs/ Also, there is a ColdSpring specific mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/coldspring-users On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Jason Durham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm hoping the person(s) who handle the Coldspring doc

Coldspring docs?

2008-05-30 Thread Jason Durham
I'm hoping the person(s) who handle the Coldspring docs can be found on this list. I'm getting a CF error when trying to access the documents. http://www.coldspringframework.org/index.cfm?objectid=389CE41C-F61D-DDF6 -61D577

Re: Coldspring Question

2008-04-08 Thread Ryan J. Heldt
one CFC and allows all the > other cfcs that require information from the session scope to have > that injected in by Coldspring.It's called a facade. It separates > the other cfcs from the session scope. They dont know about the > session scope, dont need to know and dont care.

Re: Coldspring Question

2008-04-04 Thread Mike Kear
The answer is to have a component that IS session-aware. It keeps all the access of the session scope to one CFC and allows all the other cfcs that require information from the session scope to have that injected in by Coldspring.It's called a facade. It separates the other cfcs fro

Re: Coldspring Question

2008-04-04 Thread Matt Williams
ColdSpring is best suited for managing the CFCs that need to be in application scope and their inter-related dependencies. Anything session related would still have to be done manually as ColdSpring is not really session aware. Matt On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Ryan J. Heldt <[EM

Coldspring Question

2008-04-04 Thread Ryan J. Heldt
Hey Guys- I'm fairly new to this whole Coldspring business, so I apologize if this is a glaringly obvious question. I have an intranet application that has a AuthenticatedUser CFC that is given to every user that signs in, persisted in the session scope. Is it possible to have Colds

Re: Coldspring - what a difference!

2008-03-15 Thread Dominic Watson
Amen brother! Dominic On 15/03/2008, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This won't come as a surprise to those of you who have been building > sites using Coldspring for a while, but I was VERY pleasantly > surprised at the performance improvement when I launched my

Coldspring - what a difference!

2008-03-15 Thread Mike Kear
This won't come as a surprise to those of you who have been building sites using Coldspring for a while, but I was VERY pleasantly surprised at the performance improvement when I launched my first all-Coldspring site conversion today. I've been using Coldspring for a while now, but nev

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-25 Thread James Holmes
Mikes' local machine is CF7 and the host is CF8. On 10/25/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can dump the bean factory itself just fine (or at least I can). It's > when you try to call getClass() on it that it won't work. Something inside > CFDUMP is trying to call getClass() on the

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-25 Thread Brian Kotek
You can dump the bean factory itself just fine (or at least I can). It's when you try to call getClass() on it that it won't work. Something inside CFDUMP is trying to call getClass() on the bean factory. Why, I have no idea, but it is, and that's why it's blowing up. If Mike can dump it fine on hi

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-25 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 25 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I cfdump'ed our application.beanfactory just yesterday, on CF7 on our own servers. It's 'normally' fine. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to heterogeneously maximize bricks-and-clicks data on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com ***

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread Mike Kear
ve a major rebuild of a client's site, and before i headed down the coldspring road with weeks of development, i wanted to make sure coldspring did actually work in this environment, and i wouldnt get to the end of the road only to find when i deployed the project that it didnt work.For example o

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread James Holmes
rror: > > The method getClass was not found in componentThis is definitely the > > problem. I'm pretty sure someone at HostMySite either doesn't understand > > what you're asking them, or they're lying to you. > > > > > > On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread James Holmes
When I hosted with HMS my server had no sandboxing at all and JSP was enabled. However I agree that in this case they are probably looking at the wrong setting (since cfdump is failing). On 10/25/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike, this sounds highly suspect. There is simply no way

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This issue has now morphed into another issue. I was getting an > > error which I thought was coldspring-caused but which actually turned > > out to be caused by the CFDUMP tag i was using to check the result. > > > > So i se

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
27;t understand what you're asking them, or they're lying to you. On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This issue has now morphed into another issue. I was getting an > error which I thought was coldspring-caused but which actually turned > out to be c

RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please? On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally. > > cfdump works fine with the setting of Disable access to internal > ColdFusion Java components

Re: CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread James Holmes
thought was coldspring-caused but which actually turned > out to be caused by the CFDUMP tag i was using to check the result. > > So i set about wanting to get hostmysite to change and allow access to > internal java components in the CF8 only to find that setting is > currently U

CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread Mike Kear
This issue has now morphed into another issue. I was getting an error which I thought was coldspring-caused but which actually turned out to be caused by the CFDUMP tag i was using to check the result. So i set about wanting to get hostmysite to change and allow access to internal java

RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
 +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 5:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please? I wish I had kept an eye on this thread! Apologies to Mike - when working a

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally. > > cfdump works fine with the setting of Disable access to internal > ColdFusion Java components. You didn't test thoroughly enough. See Mark Mandel's comment: you can cfdump *some*

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
If you mean you put code in production, then months later someone changes something without telling anyone else, and it breaks something? And then you try to say that the fault lies with anyone except the person who made the change and didn't tell anyone? Yes, I'd say you're the only one. Totally

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
Agreed, especially if the same dump works fine locally. In that case it has to be some configuration issue on the server (you might try dumping various other things to see if you can find a pattern in what will dump and what won't). On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This mig

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
at, and use that? Instead of something that has been out for years and has had literally thousands of eyes on it? You've got to be kidding. Again, this problem had *nothing* to do with ColdSpring. It was a problem in another part of Mike's code. And even then, if you go look back at the e

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes > problems. I guess im the only one. Oh no, it does happen to everyone :-) But if we change something, we'd check it, so we'd know that the cfdump we added caused an explosion.

RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Dale Fraser
: Coldspring error: what does this mean please? On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump > was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and the > line looks perfectly valid. You

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
n > this issue. Dude, if you have people making code changes on the live server without asking or informing the whole dev team, you have bigger problems. -- Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and ColdSpring, and has done some Flex work ? Would you like to

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
I wish I had kept an eye on this thread! Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you can't use cfdump on many things. On some things you can, and on other things you can't. The reason is this - by turning t

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
On a side note - This is one of the reasons why I suggested to you Mike to simply upload your App onto the hosting server, rather than trying to test is piecemeal. If the whole application is uploaded, you can test and fix issues that are relevant *to your application*, and not spend several days

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
st it and if > something goes wrong on the production machine not to have CFDUMP > would be a real pain. > > I guess I'm goign to have to do some negotiation with the systems guys > at hostmysite. > > So how do i verify that coldspring is in fact working and isnt just an >

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
pp to production you have to test it and if something goes wrong on the production machine not to have CFDUMP would be a real pain. I guess I'm goign to have to do some negotiation with the systems guys at hostmysite. So how do i verify that coldspring is in fact working and isnt just an absens

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as > an internal java tag? I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new setting. > But

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what shoud it be set to and are there any security or performance > implicatoins for a shared hosting operatoin ? My understanding is that most shared hosts will use this new setting to disable access to Java objects to improve security. Mark Man

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Scott
; > > Thanks for your interest Sean, i feel a lot better now you and Brian > > > are involved. > > > > > > on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean > > > correctly. it says > > > > > > > > > &g

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
James gets a prize Sean send him a voucher for CF8-enterprise and put it on my bill . I'll pay yo uafter i win the lotto! i asked the support guy if they had that java thign disabled and his answer was confusing - ambiguous - so i'll revisit that now ... what shoud it be set to and are ther

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment > > I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away > > so whats the matter with the line > > then?? > > can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7?? Not if access to Java internal objects is disabled in

RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Dale Fraser
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please? AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away so whats the matter with the line then?? can't CF8 dump out a com

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread James Holmes
t; > > On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for your interest Sean, i feel a lot better now you and Brian > > are involved. > > > > on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean > > correctly. it s

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks for your interest Sean, i feel a lot better now you and Brian are involved. on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean correctly. it says But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the one kicking off the coldspring If you

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
ting a bean > correctly. it says > > > > But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the > one kicking off the coldspring > > createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory")/> > > > If you like i can cut ev

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Scott
I will agree, have been using Coldspring for over 12 months and has saved me hours of work, and the support has been great. however I have never used it on its own, have always used it with MG:U another excellent framework with huge support. And Dale, to coin the phrase of calling the kettle

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
This tells us where the problem is: at cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage(C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47) You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes? Could you show us that code? The problem is there, not in ColdSpring. -- Sean A

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
imilar happened 3 months > after launch and nothing would work and no one knows why. Now I'm not saying > that there is anything wrong with Coldspring, but there is a risk of using a > 3rd party unsupported framework such as this. > >

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes? Line *47*... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Brian Kotek
Nonsense. ColdSpring is a very well supported framework. I have no idea what you are talking about when you reference the "obvious lack of support". Further, a great many people are and have been using ColdSpring with incredible success. It's the one framework I would absolutely

RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Dale Fraser
no one knows why. Now I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with Coldspring, but there is a risk of using a 3rd party unsupported framework such as this. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesda

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Brian Kotek
Still no idea, because there is no method called getClass() in the bean factory (and there's not supposed to be). Further, a full text search of the entire ColdSpring repository shows no files with "getClass" in them. So there's nothing in the core that would be calling such a

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
i used createobject() so thats ok i asked about the disable java thing and got an ambiguous reply so i'm not sure i'll ask again that has to be UNCHECKED, right? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusio

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Scott
One thing Mike can do first is emulate these settings on his dev machine first to see if that is indeed the problem. I am unware that coldspring uses any internal java objects, otherwise it would not run on BlueDragon or Railo. But worth testing on the dev machine before ringing the hosting

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread James Holmes
In the CF8 administrator, "Disable access to internal ColdFusion Java components" under settings is one place to check and in the sandbox for your account also have them see if they've disabled createobject() java, in case these restrict the operation you're trying to perform. I could be completely

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
e, afaik) - this is now an option in CF8. > > On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files. > > > > THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip > > file into a fol

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread James Holmes
I'll bet the host has sandboxed out the core java calls (of which getClass() is an example, afaik) - this is now an option in CF8. On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files. > > THe installat

Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files. THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip file into a folder called /coldspring then run them . thats what i did. No changes to any of the core files, and i checked i havent got any of the known

RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Dave Watts
> I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and > now i have a stack trace for this error. It's apparently > looking for something in a folder that doesnt exist. There > is no E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm That doesn't matter, actually. The CFDUMP tag is a

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