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From: Paul Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 19:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
I think comp
> No, and that is a poor attempt at a joke.
Indeed.
> If the person was truly
> dyslexic,
> you would end up with something more along the lines of
>
>
>
>
>
> And, dyslexia usually causes more problems on the reading end than the
> typing end.
Not really. Typically its an inabili
> I think you quoted out of context, and I think the original poster of
> the message you quoted was alluding to the fact (if he didn't say it
> outright) that a test can be used in conjunction w/ a technical interview.
In which case I'm not quoting him out of context.
~~~
I think company level tests are (generally) used by managers that have a
weak appreciation of the technology (and therefore no way to judge an
employee). The few times I have taken a test, and got the job, I have found
that the manager has little to no idea about the technology (and little idea
ho
>Then I sure hope you're not working on our banking application! :)
>Otherwise we'll end up with
>
>
>
>
No, and that is a poor attempt at a joke. If the person was truly dyslexic,
you would end up with something more along the lines of
And, dyslexia usually causes more p
t either.
Todd
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From: "Shawn Regan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
| I think simple questions on CF, HTML or whatever they say they can do can
I think simple questions on CF, HTML or whatever they say they can do can be
used as an added decision making tool but not the only thing to base your
decision on.
We have had people hired that didn't know the basics and they could have
been weeded out with some simple basic questions. Now this i
> IMHO, tests should be delivered verbally, and the questions should be
> written to evoke conversation. I ask questions like "what are the
> different variable scopes supported in Cold Fusion?". When the person
> answers, I'll follow through with questions like "Why would you use the
> request s
se the
request scope?". I try to keep them open ended.
Jeff Beer
Senior Programmer Architect
Hydrogen Media, Inc
(727) 530-5500 x303
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> From: Zac Belado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 12:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
&
> >>What if the person is a very good programmer but, like myself, is
> >>highly
> dyslexic and has trouble with written tests?
Then I sure hope you're not working on our banking application! :)
Otherwise we'll end up with
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At 09:48 AM 07/23/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > Properly written tests do have their worth.
>
>What if the person doesn't test well?
>What if the person is having a bad day?
>What if the person is a very good programmer but, like myself, is highly
>dyslexic and has trouble with written tests?
>What
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23 July 2001 17:49
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> Properly written tests do have their worth.
What if the person doesn't test well?
What if the person is having a bad day?
What if the person is a very good programmer but, like myself, is highly
dyslexic an
> Properly written tests do have their worth.
What if the person doesn't test well?
What if the person is having a bad day?
What if the person is a very good programmer but, like myself, is highly
dyslexic and has trouble with written tests?
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From: Michael Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 17:25
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My mom was a secretary and to get the job
My mom was a secretary and to get the job she did have to take a typing
test...
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From: "Mark Warrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I failed the test, and in my opinion, so did the company.
>
Oh, I think that was a pretty successful test, then . . . . Could you
imagine working for them?
Scott
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From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:53 AM
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I agree with a few of the other people here. It's kind of ridiculous to ask
someone to take a ColdFusion test. I me
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From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 5:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Questions to ask for CF developer
I've just been asked to prepare some questions for possible new empl
towards learning more
skills, the sites they have built so far, and most of all, an indicator that
they really enjoy what they do, cos I do.
W
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Sent: 19 July 2001 15:15
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At 08:51 AM 7/19/01 -0400, you wrote:
>I've just been asked to prepare some questions for possible new employees.
>He wants it general but able to gauge their knowledge. This is a 2nd
>interview type deal- the first one people stated "yeah I have X yrs
>experience with CF". We don't want to get
But the interviewee hasn't setup the computer how he likes it. And hasn't
installed any tools that he regularly uses.
Angél Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The 'test' I would do is one where they have access to everything
they would normally have in the office environment, and I
ask them to
>Janine Jakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just been asked to prepare some questions for possible new employees.
>He wants it general but able to gauge their knowledge. This is a 2nd
>interview type deal- the first one people stated "yeah I have X yrs
>experience with CF". We don't want to g
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> Subject: Re: Questions to ask for CF developer
>
>
> I don't like to give tests to people when I'm talking with them.
> And I don't
> like taking them when I'm intervi
> Any ideas? I need answers
> quickly- they are doing call backs this afternoon.
I'd avoid the brainbench and developers guide questions and instead
ask them
to describe the process of building on of the sites in their
portfolio or
one of their favourite projects. Ask them why they made cert
The 'test' I would do is one where they have access to everything
they would normally have in the office environment, and I
ask them to do a specific task in say 30 minutes and see how far they
get, and what they produce afterward.
-Gel
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Thanks to all who responded. I've got a good idea about what to ask I
appreciate the help.
j
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I don't like to give tests to people when I'm talking with them. And I don't
like taking them when I'm interviewing. When someone plops down a test in
front of me ... I ask myself is this the environment I want to work in? And
I've turned down jobs because of it.
And these tests show exactly w
Depeneds on what you're looking for. Are you looiking for someone to develop
or maintain. For development. Ask them if they know how to program. Ask some
design/theory questions on programming, netwaroking, databases, and the
internet? What other languages do you know? What do you use for source
c
yeah and now Andy works for a company that tells him that the Beatles are
better! :)
J
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
I used to work for a company that asked "Whic
hire them!
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From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 14:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
ah, but what if they're allaire certified, brainbench certified and
already
own the Forta
study guide? ;-)
: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
>
>
> I used to work for a company that asked "Which was the greatest
band, the
> Stones or the Beatles?" This will obvious
ah, but what if they're allaire certified, brainbench certified and
already
own the Forta
study guide? ;-)
KOla
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 13:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
By an
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
just ask the to fix some old code you had problems with in the past.
you know the stuff that took you 20 hours, when it should have taken 2.
i am sure you still have some stuff that momentarily
Check Ben Forta site for some sample questions:
http://www.forta.com/books/0789725657/dotest.cfm
Rich
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:58 AM
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By an anual
just ask the to fix some old code you had problems with in the past.
you know the stuff that took you 20 hours, when it should have taken 2.
i am sure you still have some stuff that momentarily stumped you.
-paul
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Sent: 19 July 2001 13:52
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Subject: OT: Questions to ask for CF developer
I've just been asked to prepare some questions for possible new employees.
He wants it general but able to gauge their knowledge. This is a 2nd
interview type deal- the first one people
Try Ben's cf_developer tag on them ?
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> From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 July 2001 13:52
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Questions to ask for CF developer
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> I've just been asked to prepare some questions f
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Sent: 19 July 2001 13:52
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Subject: OT: Questions to ask for CF developer
I've just been asked to pr
I've just been asked to prepare some questions for possible new employees.
He wants it general but able to gauge their knowledge. This is a 2nd
interview type deal- the first one people stated "yeah I have X yrs
experience with CF". We don't want to get too nitty gritty but we do want
to get a f
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