Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Saturday 22 Feb 2003 17:10 pm, Vince Bonfanti wrote: The only conflict to watch out for is when you go to install a web server adapter to IIS or Apache--in that case you can only have one of BlueDragon/CFMX/CF5 attached to the web server. But you can just use ProxyPass or mod_rewrite to

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Dave Watts
The only conflict to watch out for is when you go to install a web server adapter to IIS or Apache--in that case you can only have one of BlueDragon/CFMX/CF5 attached to the web server. But you can just use ProxyPass or mod_rewrite to map the server on port 8500 into the URI space

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread samcfug
| | You don't even have to do that. You can just enable BlueDragon or CFMX or | CF5 within specific virtual servers or directories, on Apache or IIS. | | Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software | http://www.figleaf.com/ | voice: (202) 797-5496 | fax: (202) 797-5444 | I would be interested in

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Dave Watts
You don't even have to do that. You can just enable BlueDragon or CFMX or CF5 within specific virtual servers or directories, on Apache or IIS. I would be interested in seeing more details on this feature I've described this more than once on this list, I'm sure, so it's probably in

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 10:24 AM, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Note that the BlueDragon implementation is via the new PAGE attribute of the CFINCLUDE tag (and not via the GetPageContext function), which allows you to include the output of JSP pages or servlets in a CFML page:

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Saturday, Feb 22, 2003, at 07:24 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: My apologies--CFMX does indeed offer similar capabilities as BlueDragon in this regard. It was an oversight on my part, and not a deliberate attempt to mislead. No problem. I expected it was just an oversight. I've been

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Vince Bonfanti
, 2003 11:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! ... Anyone's who's interested in learning more about the CFML/Java/JSP integration features offered by BlueDragon will be interested in attending my talk at the upcoming MXNorth conference: I assume

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Eric Dawson
crashes when I go there later. Does this make sense? Eric From: Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:10:31 -0500 Yes CFMX and BlueDragon (and CF5) can all peacefully co

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Hi Eric, See responses inserted below. Vince -Original Message- From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! When I install on a machine without IIS v5, it asks me if I want

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-24 Thread Eric Dawson
a couple of things. So I don't quite remember its history. I may install from scratch. I am running w2k, ntfs. cleaning registry now... Eric From: Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Date: Mon

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-22 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Yes, we've made significant strides based on feedback from customers like you. If you continue to have problems with the 3.0.1 service pack please contact me directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll make they get addressed. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-22 Thread Vince Bonfanti
BlueDragon Server Released! On Friday, Feb 21, 2003, at 13:49 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: In this case we're using the BlueDragon/J2EE edition running within a standard J2EE WAR file side-by-side with the JSP pages. In fact, some of the common page elements (headers, footers, menu

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-22 Thread Frank Mamone
] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Yes, we've made significant strides based on feedback from customers like you. If you continue to have problems with the 3.0.1 service pack please contact me directly ([EMAIL

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-22 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Vince, I apologize if I missed your response

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Daniel Ganter
-Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Wow. The 'free' part doesn't extend to a production box, right? Not sure about the definition of 'deployment

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Vince Bonfanti
). Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Wow. The 'free' part doesn't extend

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Matt Robertson
want to do). Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Wow. The 'free' part doesn't

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread jon hall
] MR MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com MR MR -Original Message- MR From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] MR Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:59 AM MR To: CF-Talk MR Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! MR Yes

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Raymond Camden
Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage, which never had any validity in the first place. All

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Ken Wilson
available for future enhancements to CF. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage, which

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! (It is all about competition)

2003-02-21 Thread Jeremy Allen
Will be interesting to see what kind of traction BlueDragon gets in the marketplace. And if it suceeds(sic), what kind of pricing pressure this puts on MM. And one could argue that if it causes sufficient pricing pressure, MM might have to respond in a way that reduces their revenue and

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Dave Watts
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage, which never had any validity in the first place. I don't know if I'd go as far as that. First of all, BlueDragon != CFMX. Second, there's validity to the argument that free software is better than non-free software, all

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:01 PM 2/21/03 -0600, Raymond Camden wrote: I don't think you will ever kill that argument. There are some people who - for whatever reason - think ALL commercial software is the tool of the devil, and if you try to sell code you are commiting a mortal sin. They will NEVER be convinced

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Matt Robertson
-Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage, which never had any validity in the first place. All

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
At 01:01 PM 2/21/03 -0600, Raymond Camden wrote: I don't think you will ever kill that argument. There are some people who - for whatever reason - think ALL commercial software is the tool of the devil, and if you try to sell code you are commiting a mortal sin. They will NEVER be convinced

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
21, 2003 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage, which never had any validity in the first place. All sorts of implications here. Sure would like to see a lot of new cfml developers enter the world

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Dave Lyons
trying it out. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage, which never had any

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Barney Boisvert
on) it seems like they'd at least do the product site in cfm via BD for this exact reason. barneyb -Original Message- From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! maybe its just me but I find

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
but it would also probably keep me from even trying it out. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Dave Lyons
i dont know enough about it to really know. It was just my immediate thought Dave - Original Message - From: Mosh Teitelbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! If I understand correctly

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Daniel Ganter
also probably keep me from even trying it out. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Dave Lyons
-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! Hi Dave, I think your delivery inference means that our download page is a JSP, which is correct: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/download.jsp However, that's merely

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Vince Bonfanti
shared across CFML and JSP pages. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released! I

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I hope that New Atlanta has worked on the compatibility problems I was seeing last year. I was quick to try out Blue Dragon as an alternate to CFMX Linux, primarily because CFMX at that time did not run very well w/ Linux. After a month or so with BD I hung up that hat and went back to CF5.

Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-21 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, Feb 21, 2003, at 13:49 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: In this case we're using the BlueDragon/J2EE edition running within a standard J2EE WAR file side-by-side with the JSP pages. In fact, some of the common page elements (headers, footers, menu bars) are implemented via

RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!

2003-02-20 Thread Matt Robertson
Wow. The 'free' part doesn't extend to a production box, right? Not sure about the definition of 'deployment'. Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com