Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-07 Thread Claude Schneegans
Most of the companies I work for INSIST on *everything* Microsoft because in their eyes, *only* Microsoft is suitable for stuffed shirt corporate work. True, And IMHO the only reason is the incompetence of managers. The bigger the organization is, the higher the decision maker is, And the

RE: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
... Just some thoughts... Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:schneeg...@internetique.com] Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:14 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase? Most of the companies I work for INSIST on *everything* Microsoft because

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-07 Thread Jordan Michaels
I'm kinda jumping into the middle of this thread but I thought it would be worth mentioning that I've had exceptionally good experiences with PostgreSQL. It's licensed even more liberally then MySQL, and is regularly benchmarked at being faster with complex queries then MySQL is. I started

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-07 Thread denstar
David, your response was artful, I'm going to put a cool dude check next to your name in my book. :) Did you bring in any hired guns/experts for your MySQL stuff? I think the Dolphin is blue, that might be your problem right there! =) We all have our strengths and weaknesses, which is pretty

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-07 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: ... It's just the nature of business, it seems, that big businesses like working with big businesses.  Less efficient?  perhaps... More costly?  perhaps... more comforting? probably... Sleeping soundly at night is worth a lot of money...

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread denstar
For Oracle and other non-free vendors, there is a benchmark: http://www.tpc.org/ FWIW, David obviously had MySQL mis-configured. :) Or else maybe he didn't *believe* it would work very well, and thus, it didn't. And FWIW*2, there are a couple open source versions of CF now. The best reason

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread David McGuigan
Oh you're totally right, I obviously had it misconfigured. I must've not even thought to research and implement strategic configuration of the MySQL instance itself. Man I wish I had thought of that in the enormous amount of research and testing we had to do. It sounds like such a simple, obvious

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM, David McGuigandavidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: We iterated through a kaleidoscope of configuration strategies and were on more than ample hardware ( 2 xeon quads, 16GB ram, a RAID 5 of 15k drives ) but even the ones that should've been ideal on paper, though they

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David McGuigan wrote: Companies use open source ( and free ) software for a variety of reasons. Usually out of either stubbornness or a genetic allergy to Microsoft. Most of the other Google apps though have seemed really slow to me ( and been down completely

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread David McGuigan
I'm not against open source in any way shape or form! SOME of it is fantastic. But that doesn't mean I think that all open source products are great or even decent. Honestly it seems like a lot of them are pretty fruitless, and more the personal hobbies and indulgences of the developers than

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread Les Mizzell
Companies use open source ( and free ) software for a variety of reasons. Usually out of either stubbornness or a genetic allergy to Microsoft. Most of the companies I work for INSIST on *everything* Microsoft because in their eyes, *only* Microsoft is suitable for stuffed shirt corporate

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-06 Thread Dan Crouch
This seems to have gone way off topic. But we got the same notice from them. I would have thought they would have thoroughly researched that pricing change before they contacted us, but I am not positive we even need the license upgrade they said we needed. When I asked them about it they told

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-05 Thread David McGuigan
.16 seconds in 2009 is the equivalent of ~20 minutes in 1990's time. I'm kind of kidding. But are we sure that Google's search ( which is probably its best performing software ) uses MySQL anyway? I thought it used BigTable or whatev ( http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html ) Most of the

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-05 Thread James Holmes
We use Oracle instead of SQL Server for the same reason :-) mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2009/9/5 David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com: Now I kind of see SQL Server the same way I see ColdFusion. You pay for it because it's better.

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Judah McAuley
Like most things, the answer to all your questions is it depends. If you have an app that doesn't have a big load, SQL Server Express might do fine for you. It is free but will only use 1 processor core, 1 GB of RAM and has a 4 GB database size limitation. Porting over to MySql can be very easy

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Gerald Guido
How hard is it to switch from SQL Server to MySQL? That is a very open ended question. The answer to which could run the gamut from Not that hard at all to A freakin' nightmare. It all depends on how you are using SQL Sever. Do you use SSIS? Do you use any SQL or T-SQL that is particular to

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Gerald Guido
Strike the red gate reference IIRC they are pretty much SQL Server centric. Sorry about that... G! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: How hard is it to switch from SQL Server to MySQL? That is a very open ended question. The answer to which could

RE: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Kruger
Yes the proc license is really the only way to go... The difficulty in switching depends greatly on your code. IT could be quite easy - or require rewriting every query. I recently helped a customer go from MySQL to MSSQL and I wrote a couple of posts on it. It will give you an idea of the type

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread David McGuigan
This link: http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2008/en/us/pricing.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2008/en/us/pricing.aspxMentions a Web edition for $15 per month ( per processor, not core I believe ), specifically targeted at web apps deployment. If you end up exploring that and find out

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Billy Cox
SQL Server Express isn't an option due to size limitations, although we may scale back from Standard edition to Workgroup. We chose Standard initially in order to take advantage of SSIS, but we haven't had the time to become proficient with SSIS and have moved our old DTS scheduled jobs to CF

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Andrew Grosset
Yes the proc license is really the only way to go... The difficulty in switching depends greatly on your code. IT could be quite easy - or require rewriting every query. I recently helped a customer go from MySQL to MSSQL and I wrote a couple of posts on it. It will give you an idea of the type

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread David McGuigan
There are about 1,000 reasons I can think of, but I only have limited experience with SQL Server ( just enough to observe these differences ): Less administration and maintenance. Less tuning necessary for pureformance. Exponentially superior performance out of the box. A single, superhero

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Dave Watts
curious as to why anyone would want to switch from MySQL to MSSQL.. Because it has a much richer set of features, perhaps? Because it can do a lot of things that MySQL can't? a quick look at mysql.com/customers showed the following: facebook feedster flickr fotolog and that was

RE: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread brad
curious as to why anyone would want to switch from MySQL to MSSQL.. a quick look at mysql.com/customers showed the following: facebook feedster flickr fotolog Let's be very clear about the different versions of MySQL. Chances are when someone says they are using MySQL, they probably

Re: Stung by HostMySite price increase?

2009-09-04 Thread Gerald Guido
Out of the companies you listed, I've only ever used Facebook, Flickr, Google, eBay, iStockPhoto, Ticketmaster, and Yahoo. I'm not saying this is a litmus test, but with the exception of maybe Yahoo ( but I haven't really used Yahoo THAT much ), I have always consciously THOUGHT as I used